The confusing world of Deontay Wilder...

That doesnt matter bc MONEY has to be settled FIRST in order to make the fight . Then all the rest gets sorted out . Just goes to show once again how uneducated Wilder really is . A decade in the game and still dont know whats going on . No wonder he has 3 managers and no one promoting him , because their too busy reaching in his pockets making more money than he is . :joke: WTF are you justifying a flat fee when you were against Pac and GG taking a flat fee hypocrite? Joshua fans like this dksab. And clowns like you always assume you're smarter than other boxing fans when you don't know the first thing about boxing or negotiations article reader. Hot off the press ass news reporter lmao. Do you really think that we all say, "Juganut knows what's going down during these negotiations"??? Foh armchair, lmao.

poor trolling itt. tl;dr op How is it trolling?

Yes but this same Deontay Wilder will knock out Joshua if this fight ever gets the nod. Wilder is AJs biggest threat in all the fights that he has had and he and Hearn know it. Tis why their trying to price Wilder out of the fight. Why does Parker get offered more to fight than a US un-defeated k/o artist? Maybe its cause they know its not a decision fight and the judges wont have a say in it. Even with the home side advantage AJs team seem a little shook at the moment of Deontay and his power to take all his belts in one punch. The AJ before the Parker fight is worth more now he has another belt I would of thought that was obvious. Do you know if there was any reason why Wilder has not thought Parker. I must say you have a lot of faith in Wilder has he ever thought anyone with similar talent to Joshua.

Pop quiz. Identify the heavyweight champion who recently said: "I never thought I'd have to go through so much to unify the division" Clue, it's one of two men, IBF, WBA, WBO and IBO holder Anthony Joshua and WBC champion Deontay Wilder... :thinkerg: Another clue, he also said: “I always said I want to unify all the titles. My goal is to unify,” Using your knowledge of the unification process over the past two years as 3 of the 4 major titles were brought together, who said those words? It is of course, Deontay Wilder, who else has gone through so much to unify the division...? Another quote: "I want to make the sport about ‘who is the best’." Deontay again. Good talker eh? See the rankings of his opponents on this chart: https://premierboxingorganisation.com/heavyweight-200 'Who is the best' amongst his opposition? It's revealing. One final quote from the one man cognitive dissonance generator that is Deontay Wilder: "you know Hearn and Joshua, their stuff is always unbalanced, they say one thing, they say it’s another. You should know Deontay, if anyone should, it's you... There's a lot to like about Deontay. A big character packing a bigger punch. A winner and family guy. He's not elegant or technically gifted, but he's a winner at Olympic and Pro. A worthy champion deserving respect. But there's a difference between words and actions. He speaks as if he's been on a mission to unify or that he's only ever sought the best opponents, but his resume is packed with mediocrity and safe choices. Here's what he says about Joshua: "A lot of these guys, man, they are just jokes. Anthony Joshua is one of those guys. Hear it from my mouth, he is a joke." In reality, Joshua, a fellow late entrant into boxing, has put together a better set of results in half the number of fights. He's now 3 quarters of the way to undisputed status and he's taken the unbeaten status from 3 of the top 10 according to Ring Magazine, to Wilder's one. He's consistently done what he says he's going to do. Wilder talks a good game, but it's not hating to point out that gap between his words and actions, between image and reality. I hope he reaches an agreement and we see them fight. With that right hand Wilder has a chance, but if he becomes undisputed champion it won't be the end of some mighty quest for unification but due to the good luck of being a belt holder at the time that Joshua set out to bring the belts together. Spot on and if you look at all the guys that have held a belt in the division during Wilder's reign (Wlad, Chgaev, Browne, Fury, Parker and AJ), he has not faced a single one of them. I guess you can discount Chagev and Browne for obvious reasons but where was Wilder's unification with Wlad, Fury or Parker? Why was the onus always on AJ to fight Parker? Where was Wilder in 2015 and 2016? Why was he not fighting Wlad or Fury? Why were there never any serious negotiations? The guy says one thing and does the opposite.

Didn't read. AJ gonna get baptized by Wilder's windmills Typical retarded Wilder fangirl, can't read but cries out laud :D

poor trolling itt. tl;dr op

Wilder is a joke.

Why does Parker get offered more to fight than a US un-defeated k/o artist? Because AJ's price goes up with every title he brings to the table. He's now offering Wilder a chance to become undisupted with one fight, a chance he never had. That chance comes at a price.

Great thread but who cares about Wilder he is well know to talk rubbish and you can see from his career he has done nothing to unify titles. Yes but this same Deontay Wilder will knock out Joshua if this fight ever gets the nod. Wilder is AJs biggest threat in all the fights that he has had and he and Hearn know it. Tis why their trying to price Wilder out of the fight. Why does Parker get offered more to fight than a US un-defeated k/o artist? Maybe its cause they know its not a decision fight and the judges wont have a say in it. Even with the home side advantage AJs team seem a little shook at the moment of Deontay and his power to take all his belts in one punch.

Wilder is the same chicken neck now as the guy knocking out absolute no hopers in the not so distant past. The problem with Deontay Wilder is both Deontay Wilder and Al Haymon. Everyone can understand codling an Olympic gold medalist as they start out fighting soft competition. But the idea that you are being protected in your infancy as a pro is in anticipation that you will make it to the top and take on the elite competition once you arrive to it professionally. Haymon doesn't see that. Wilder? Honestly who the hell knows what he really thinks. Guy probably would shamelessly slunk out even more if Haymon gave him the green light. Danny Garcia is the same f*cking problem. Everyone needs to understand that Haymon has installed fighters to the throne of champion that do not want to fight the best, are very mediocre and without Haymon would be long gone by now. Wilder is the A-typical Haymon creation that just sits on the bench in the prime of their career and not only is fine with this lackluster sand bagging of a division but prefers it. Because the latter would mean a high likelihood they would get beat and no longer get to freeze the division. It's like if someone said, say John Ruiz what if I told you you don't have to fight Tua, Evander, Jones, Lennox or anyone "dangerous" and you could still keep your belt and keep raking in money? The John Ruiz **** did happen. Don King had the belts hostage in an endless Chris Byrd vs Andrew Golota vs John Ruiz sh**fest lol.

You being too logical and factual for the dim wits here. Good attempt at trying to cultivate the more cerebal self analyzation of Wilders poor legacy.

Great thread but who cares about Wilder he is well know to talk rubbish and you can see from his career he has done nothing to unify titles.

Wilder is the same chicken neck now as the guy knocking out absolute no hopers in the not so distant past. The problem with Deontay Wilder is both Deontay Wilder and Al Haymon. Everyone can understand codling an Olympic gold medalist as they start out fighting soft competition. But the idea that you are being protected in your infancy as a pro is in anticipation that you will make it to the top and take on the elite competition once you arrive to it professionally. Haymon doesn't see that. Wilder? Honestly who the hell knows what he really thinks. Guy probably would shamelessly slunk out even more if Haymon gave him the green light. Danny Garcia is the same f*cking problem. Everyone needs to understand that Haymon has installed fighters to the throne of champion that do not want to fight the best, are very mediocre and without Haymon would be long gone by now. Wilder is the A-typical Haymon creation that just sits on the bench in the prime of their career and not only is fine with this lackluster sand bagging of a division but prefers it. Because the latter would mean a high likelihood they would get beat and no longer get to freeze the division. It's like if someone said, say John Ruiz what if I told you you don't have to fight Tua, Evander, Jones, Lennox or anyone "dangerous" and you could still keep your belt and keep raking in money?

Definitely. I'm all in favour of smart thinking. However it does come at a price. It means that to get the fight with the chump you're going to knock out you need to accept that he took the risks, he claimed the belts and he dictates the terms. Do that and the path is clear to make history in one fight rather than 5. Bargain!:boxing: I agree and i think if Hearn and AJ are serious about making this fight and make a realistic offer then this fight is on. I hope Deontay does take less being the b side knowing that if he wins he becomes the a side in a fight in las vegas. Everyone crossing their fingers to get this fight done otherwise its a total let down for all the fans across the board.

Ha Wilder has just gone a different route to unify the belts. Hes sat back while Joshua has done all the heavy lifting, then he takes all Joshuas belts of him to become un-disputed. Pretty decent business sense. Imo. Definitely. I'm all in favour of smart thinking. However it does come at a price. It means that to get the fight with the chump you're going to knock out you need to accept that he took the risks, he claimed the belts and he dictates the terms. Do that and the path is clear to make history in one fight rather than 5. Bargain!:boxing:

Everything you said is true but I still think Wilder deserves to make more money to fight AJ in England than he has been offered so far. I agree 100%. Although I called that strategy by Hearn I don't think it delivers the fight we want either. I've not covered the purse split argument here however as there's about a dozen other threads where that's being discussed!

You guys are worse than the KGB with the I hate Wilder campaign. I don't hate him. I do hate the attitude that anyone who criticises some aspect of a person's behaviour is automatically branded a hater however. That's moronic schoolyard behaviour and worthy of hate and indeed contempt, because it stops any chance of a meaningful debate. So there are some things I hate, but Wilder ain't one of 'em. :)

Everything you said is true but I still think Wilder deserves to make more money to fight AJ in England than he has been offered so far.

I would have to agree with everything you said and very well put I must say.

"The contract does not indicate where the fight will take place, when it will take place, or even whether it will be Joshua’s next fight".