Why is Joshua expected to pay fighters double or triple what Floyd did?

It takes two to tango. If the fight doesn’t happen I think the track record of the two men involved would make it unlikely you could call Joshua the duck in my view. Americans may see it differently but upto now Ilder has ducked many. Only a single challenge (Ortiz) in his entire career has anyone even considered there is a possibility he could lose. Yes. He seems to know that now is when the fight should happen not 2 fights down the stretch. This is the biggest fight in boxing at the moment and it needs to happen very soon or else it will drain out.

One cause he aint floyd. Second cause he needs Wilder to unify and make this a superfight. If Aj cant make this happen and doesnt go for the last belt on offer then hes a fraud and its a duck. It takes two to tango. If the fight doesn’t happen I think the track record of the two men involved would make it unlikely you could call Joshua the duck in my view. Americans may see it differently but upto now Ilder has ducked many. Only a single challenge (Ortiz) in his entire career has anyone even considered there is a possibility he could lose.

One cause he aint floyd. Second cause he needs Wilder to unify and make this a superfight. If Aj cant make this happen and doesnt go for the last belt on offer then hes a fraud and its a duck.

Two factors here in my view: 1) American bias. If it was others way around they would expect Joshua to except far less. 2) joshuas desire. He has already proven by taking on Martin, Klitschko and Parker that he will take fights early in his career. He also has clearly stated his desire to unify the belts. In order to do that he has had to overpay several including the likes of Parker and Martin. If he was less vocal about his desire then I guess he wouldn’t be expected so much. Infact he could have chosen easier fights to this point and Klitschko a-side the money difference would not have been huge. The position he is in now is largely where a voluntarily or mandatory defence earns him more money than a unification with Wilder because of the split he may end up sharing. So for him the only incentive is the belts.

These fighters are making huge amounts to fight 12 rounds and good on them. But honestly when your making 10mill plus to fight surely you dont have to be too greedy to get the fight done. I mean how much does either side really need to fight each other. It should be an easy 35-65 split and reverse if Wilder wins and they have the rematch.

Maybe Mayweather underpaid his opponents. I never paid attention. In the case of Wilder vs AJ I think Wilder deserves to make at least half as much as AJ makes and anything less than that not a good offer.Wilder is the B side but he is still half of a very big money making fight. He is the one fighting in hostile territory and he is a champion himself.

brothers there is no way you can justify sending a champion a flat rate and not negotiating with him. Aj is the A side and deserves the higher split we get it but please stop Read my original post please.

brothers there is no way you can justify sending a champion a flat rate and not negotiating with him. Aj is the A side and deserves the higher split we get it but please stop

FAIL. Joshua isn't generating Mayweather numbers. That's why your analogy doesn't work. Mayweather's earning potential is what gave him leverage. He could generate huge numbers with a no-name opponent...so he had leverage to lowball anyone he thought. Not so for Joshua. Joshua does huge numbers with anyone. He did 400k ppv buys before he was even world champion, and the Takam fight is further proof. He could make $20 million with anyone half decent. My question is why is he having to pay opponents more than Floyd when he isn't making that type of money himself? He has the leverage - you are wrong about that as I proved above. But fans still expect him to pay Wilder as much as Floyd paid Cotto, and Canelo. This is amusing to me. FAIL.

Hearn is the worst source, he can say whatever he wants because there is no Athletic Commission that reports earnings for the UK. How can you see what figures on Sky? Can you be more specific? He's not being offered £15M, he's being offered 12.5M USD which is £8.8M. You guys need to do your research and quit posting fake numbers. Thirty thousand threads on the same subject and 90% can't even get the dang numbers right. BARB give you the numbers, just have to go to the relevant date and channel, there is a poster on here who normally posts numbers. Who said Wilder was being offered 15m, you put that on your previous post about Joshua's Parker fight earnings, I was responding. You literally can't even follow your own argument, what chance do I have of having a reasonable debate with you? We will never know the exact numbers. We do know ballpark though, because Hearn has said as much in IFL videos. He has called AJ a £15 million fighter since Klitschko. He made 50% of a fight which did 1.25 million buys and a 90,000 sell out. Him and Klit split a £30 million pot. Less buys for Takam and a slightly smaller gate. Still around the same purse because of Takams purse being lower, around £2.5 million. Again not going tone exact, but I know I have a better concept of the numbers than most I've seen, and certainly you. Either way, stick on point or I'll get rid of you. Why are there double standards?

Mayweather’s 0 is worth a lot more than Joshua’s. If you beat Mayweather you were the new king, beating AJ just means he was a queen.

You can't compare AJ to Mayweather and you can't compare the US Market to the UK Market!

Why is Joshua who is making $20-30 million a fight, which is probably on average about half of a Floyd pay day post De La Hoya, expected to overpay fighters by these ridiculous amounts. He just had to pay Parker, £8 million, $11 million!!! To put that into perspective, against Floyd; Mosley, and Marquez, made less than that, both STARS, champions, multiple ppv appearances. In a fight where the pot for the fighters was probably around $70-80 million on a bad day. The hypocrisy and double standards are ridiculous. I hear people talking about %, without using any historical context. Now don't get me wrong, I don't think Wilder should be taking the flat offer, but I also dont think that number is a million miles away from where a fair % would end up. $15 million would be somewhere around that 30-35% mark, and quite frankly that is ridiculous overpaying if you consider the above, and the fact that both Parker and Wilder are not draws. Floyd was paying stars - actual STARS, certified HOFers, 10% of the purse in some cases, but they were happy because of the opportunity and the life changing money. When these guys were taking these purses, I didn't hear anyone complaining then, I didn't hear anything about low ball offers. This is the last I'm going to talk about this, but needed to put it out there. FAIL. Joshua isn't generating Mayweather numbers. That's why your analogy doesn't work. Mayweather's earning potential is what gave him leverage. He could generate huge numbers with a no-name opponent...so he had leverage to lowball anyone he thought. Not so for Joshua.

Hearn is probably the best one, in fairness you can see the Sky figures on the night, there is a way to check their viewing figures. Whilst that won't give you buys, it's a good indicator. My point being, maybe the fight didn't do quite as well as projected. Either way £6 million is still $8.5 million, and £15 million is still $21 million. We know it's somewhere in that ball park. It doesn't really address or argue against the point in my thread. Hearn is the worst source, he can say whatever he wants because there is no Athletic Commission that reports earnings for the UK. How can you see what figures on Sky? Can you be more specific? He's not being offered £15M, he's being offered 12.5M USD which is £8.8M. You guys need to do your research and quit posting fake numbers. Thirty thousand threads on the same subject and 90% can't even get the dang numbers right.

Got a source for the £8M purse? Hean said it was far less than 6M US. Again, source? I've seen £15M. See how this works? Hearn is probably the best one, in fairness you can see the Sky figures on the night, there is a way to check their viewing figures. Whilst that won't give you buys, it's a good indicator. My point being, maybe the fight didn't do quite as well as projected. Either way £6 million is still $8.5 million, and £15 million is still $21 million. We know it's somewhere in that ball park. It doesn't really address or argue against the point in my thread.

He just had to pay Parker, £8 million, $11 million!!! Got a source for the £8M purse? Hean said it was far less than 6M US. Joshua has made around $19 million. Again, source? I've seen £15M. See how this works?

So according to Hearn Parker made 6M on 33% split you want to do math and figure out how much AJ made in unification fight Not sure what you are getting at. Parker has made over $8 million. Joshua has made around $19 million. Joshua probably made more or less the same against Takam, possibly lesd. He's had to pay for that WBO belt essentially.

Canelo made around $13 mil for the 3rd biggest fight in history. Tards saying Wilder deserves more though. :rofl: I think it ended up being around $25 after everything was accounted for, but that was still less than 20%.

Canelo made around $13 mil for the 3rd biggest fight in history. Tards saying Wilder deserves more though. :rofl: So according to Hearn Parker made 6M on 33% split you want to do math and figure out how much AJ made in unification fight

AJ is no Mayweather Exactly...