Canelos cost

finally some links. Okay well lets see how GGG vs Canelo plays out. I tell you GGG aint gonna get shit. Oh, you were looking for proof/links? My bad. But yeah, I agree. We have to see how this plays out. Although, in all indications, Canelo WILL indeed face a 1 year ban. With the minimum amount he will do is 6 months. I really don't think there's a way around it now that the official complaint has been filed. I do think they will win IF they sue. Will that make it almost impossible to finally make that 2nd fight later down the line? Probably, yes. But, ehhh, it's been known to happen.

its the same shit. Pavlik called off the fight cause of no injuries he was cleared to go. You making up a fantasy world you live in, these are facts. Provide some facts on your end where a fighter got sued etc and won for backing out of a fight. I'll WAIT! Not being able to fight due to surgery and cheating are NOT the same thing. I literally just gave you facts. And you changed it up. 1st you say Pavlik pulled out of the fight out of the blue. Then I approached it with facts and told you the reason why the fight didn't happen - which was due to surgery. Wilder sued Povetkin for breach of contract just recently which sets precedent. https://www.badlefthook.com/2017/2/13/14600376/deontay-wilder-wins-civil-case-against-alexander-povetkin And also......Don King got sued for the same thing...Guillermo failed a drug test, fight couldn't happen because of that, then he was sued by Ryabinsky (which ironically was the one that got sued by Wilder for the VERY SAME THING)....so there was precedent then too. http://www.blackenterprise.com/don-king-breaches-contract-and-sued-for-2-4-for-canceled-fight/ https://www.boxingscene.com/judge-sides-with-ryabinskiy-lawsuit-against-don-king--82769 When the April 18th verdict comes out, and NSAC officially indefinitely suspends Canelo, that fight will be considered canceled. (he pulled out not because of injuries, he pulled out do to facing suspension) And due to the precedent that has been set already, they do have LEGAL grounds to sue for breach of contract. And based on these two cases that, they have a very good chance of winning.

When the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association revealed Russia’s Alexander Povetkin tested positive for meldonium less than a week before Wilder was supposed to make a mandatory title defense against Povetkin in Moscow, their May 2016 fight was canceled and it cost Wilder a $4.5 million purse. He successfully sued Povetkin and promoter Andrey Ryabinskiy in a Manhattan federal court seven months ago, but after that civil trial the last thing Wilder wants to do is waste more time and money. Exactly. This is the part that alot of people are failing to realize. A precedent has now been set that a person taking a banned substance CAN get sued for breach of contract. And because of this precedent, it will always be used in court in similar situations and judges will almost certainly have to allow.

I understand all of that, but who cares? you clearly dont understand boxing business etc, and it shows. lmfao its not anyone responsibility but the fighters on who pays the sparring, managers etc etc etc, Fights get called off all the time for xyz reason and the "victim" side never gets a consolations check lmfao. you just deal with it, thats boxing. Think about this, why do fighters offer extra money to the other fighters when they miss weight? cause if they dont the fight can possibly be off and they dont get paid at all. Now Why do fighters accept that payment? cause if they dont the fight will be called off and THEY DONT GET PAID EITHER! Hell remeber ward vs pavlik? Pavlik pulled out of the blue and said he is retiring, did ward get paid? lmfao Calling a fight off due to injury is MUUUUCH different than a breach of contract due to testing positive for a banned substance. You have one situation that isn't of anyone's fault and another situation that is due to flat out cheating (whether intentional or not, as far as Nevada is concerned, all positive tests are treated as doping/cheating). And you definitely don't remember that event too well. Andre Ward pulled out of that fight due to a shoulder injury in which he ended up getting surgery. As far as weight penalties. Those are always pre-negotiated in the contract before they're signed. They can be revised later down the line, but those are in writing. Again though, I hope it doesn't come to that. GBP and Canelo need to stay away from the court rooms. They're synonymous with controversy and drama now.

Did Cotto pay GGG that 800,000 yet? Yeah he paid him.

When the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association revealed Russia’s Alexander Povetkin tested positive for meldonium less than a week before Wilder was supposed to make a mandatory title defense against Povetkin in Moscow, their May 2016 fight was canceled and it cost Wilder a $4.5 million purse. He successfully sued Povetkin and promoter Andrey Ryabinskiy in a Manhattan federal court seven months ago, but after that civil trial the last thing Wilder wants to do is waste more time and money.

The event DID get canceled. The event, which was "Canelo vs GGG 2" is indeed not happening. Fighting on the same date has nothing to do with this fight. Fighting in the same city has nothing to do with this fight. Tom Loeffler and his legal team have to draft an entirely new contract for a different venue, a different opponent, a different guaranteed purse, draft new resolutions for HBO PPV numbers and prices, decide what hotels will air the fight, decide how they will advertise with the little amount of time they have left, etc. Then I stand corrected.

hes not gonna get shit! watch. Nothing? You do understand that purses pay for the training camp, manager fees, promoter fees, trainer fees, cutmen, sparring partners, travel expenses, etc right? GBP is the lead promoter meaning they will be the one dispersing the money. I'm almost for certain that all of those expenses listed above aren't coming out of GGG's own pocket. I hope it isn't some ugly courtroom back and forth drama show though. There are ways to handle it out of court. Which, to be quite frankly, GBP has seen far too much of in the last 2 years. GBP needs to have faaar less drama laden and controversial storylines. It's very tiring hearing GBP always in court or connected to controversy, while Oscar and fans try to pretend they are this pristine promotional company that do things by the book and are the model for how things should be done. It's a reallllllyyy bad look. Hopefully this sorts itself out and isn't a big spectacle.

I said something liek that, not a damn verbatum example. And stop looking at it from the POV of canelo team trying to get one over on GGG its there for both figthers protection etc thats why it will be accepted. psssh im tired who cares, let ggg sue what the fuck do I care. No, I'm not looking at it from the POV of "canelo is trying to get one over on Gennady". I'm looking at it from the level of "there isn't one legal team that will allow that, nor any promoter who has their best interest in mind that will allow their fighter to basically be penalized/come out of pocket for their opponents wrong doings - which ultimately comes out of his pocket" He'll get his money. If they can't get the entire purse, it will be 100% adjace.

One thing for sure is that this is the most expensive 20 lb steak Clenelo ever digested. The only dirty meat Clenelo digested was Oscar's. And no, it wasn't 20lbs, more like 2 ounces.

they have some language in their that covers that. And your acting like GGG has any power in these negations. GGG wants the fight really Canelo can care less, so GGG will sign anything they give him really. and the wording wont be like that, it will be something like If any party so happens to get suspended due to medical injuries or other reasoning that fight shall be postponed or scraped indefinitely without any compensation for either party. Welcome to the real world lil nukka. 1st of all, all legal teams will catch that and demand that all scenarios be laid out and concrete. Adding "other reasoning" is far too vague and will allow for outright foolishness. That's not how it works. GGG won't just sign just anything. If the guaranteed purse was $500k for GGG, you think he'd sign that too? Smh. Look, we're talkin in circles here. You're of the belief that the legal team and promoter for GGG are so incompetent that they'd eat the cost of everything that goes into a fight (from training expenses, manager cut, sparring partners, etc) and totally forgive Canelo for any wrongdoing. You're welcome to be the only person that would think that. And the whole narrative of "canelo doesn't need this fight, Gennady does" is far too overused as well as misleading. For you not to need this fight, Canelo sure does show other wise. It must suck to get suspended over a fight you don't care about. My point is: Canelo indeed does care.

they have some language in their that covers that. And your acting like GGG has any power in these negations. GGG wants the fight really Canelo can care less, so GGG will sign anything they give him really. and the wording wont be like that, it will be something like If any party so happens to get suspended due to medical injuries or other reasoning that fight shall be postponed or scraped indefinitely without any compensation for either party. Welcome to the real world lil nukka.NO they won't just sign anything LOL team fishnets originally wanted ggg to fight at a catch weight and ggg said NOPE and got him stripped of the wbc belt and how the hell do you know whats exactly in the contract you foolish troll

I stick with my opinion that they've no grounds to sue if they proceed with another fight on the same date. You may not even hear anything about it, knowing how incompetent GGG's team is. We shall see soon enough.ggg's team is not incompetent. they took an unknown fighter from bum fuk kazakhstan with no fan base whatsoever and turned him into star fighter headlining on HBO. ggg made his HBO debut in 2012. you may not hear anything but I think gbp might cut a deal with ggg and cut him a check and they go ahead with rematch.

With GGG still fighting on the date he was suppose to fight against Canelo what GBP might have to pay him is minimal. The event didn't get cancelled so it is not a total loss. The event DID get canceled. The event, which was "Canelo vs GGG 2" is indeed not happening. Fighting on the same date has nothing to do with this fight. Fighting in the same city has nothing to do with this fight. Tom Loeffler and his legal team have to draft an entirely new contract for a different venue, a different opponent, a different guaranteed purse, draft new resolutions for HBO PPV numbers and prices, decide what hotels will air the fight, decide how they will advertise with the little amount of time they have left, etc.

Incorrect , is like saying you purchased a ferrari but something happend to it, but you did get a corolla, so you can still go to work. If GGG had any PPV percentage, sponsors,etc, they could get reduce by millions since he is literally fighting nobody, from porobably one million PPV's to maybe 150K if that( I am just guessins) dont be surprised HBO puts it as BAD, making GGG lose even more money. I stick with my opinion that they've no grounds to sue if they proceed with another fight on the same date. You may not even hear anything about it, knowing how incompetent GGG's team is. We shall see soon enough.

they do have some language in the contracts that cover that, will be stupid not to. yeah who knows how it will play out in the courts, but they do have language that covers that etc will be dumb not to since that is a very important scenario that can present itself. The point you're missing is: No opposing legal team will say "in the event YOUR team messes up this entire fight by testing positive for a drug that causes for you suspension, it is hereby okay by us, you are no longer on the hook for any of the guaranteed/contracted purse, regardless of our client's training fees, manager fees, sparring partners, travel expenses, etc"

With GGG still fighting on the date he was suppose to fight against Canelo what GBP might have to pay him is minimal. The event didn't get cancelled so it is not a total loss.

I disagree, I do agree they might have some clauses but since he is suspended any judge will side with GGG, they will use his age, his camp, his expenses and lost of income due to something that could have easily be avoided, like OJ for example, he was found innocent in criminal court but found guilty in civil case. Civil cases are easier to since the burden of proof will rest on GGG but when challenged it will shift to canelos. but in short, the HBO will have very bad numbers, I think it might no be PPV Exactly. It will be a civil case. And last year, a precedent was set when Wilder sued Povetkin for breach of contract for his entire purse, and won.

You just deflected on wilder..... this ain’t about him....... Hes not saying its about Wilder. Hes making a comparison to a similar situation. One guy pissed dirty ensurining the event would be cancelled and had to pay up.

they have stipulations like that and if you dont think they would put some stipulations about failed test etc etc then you dumber than a motherfucker. I disagree, I do agree they might have some clauses but since he is suspended any judge will side with GGG, they will use his age, his camp, his expenses and lost of income due to something that could have easily be avoided, like OJ for example, he was found innocent in criminal court but found guilty in civil case. Civil cases are easier to since the burden of proof will rest on GGG but when challenged it will shift to canelos. but in short, the HBO will have very bad numbers, I think it might no be PPV