Which is more offensive to you? Margarito who supposedly had hardened handwraps (supoosedly because it has never been proven he used them in any fight, although you could say attempted), or saul who has been proven to have dirty tests, and completely backed out of a fight before a compete investigation was done?
Margo, he brought weapons in the ring.
He got suspended for a year and his trainer got banned for life. He tried to get reinstated in the US and got denied.
That tells you everything you have to know.
You need to rewatch that Cotto-Margarito 2 rematch. The 9th round was one of Cotto's best rounds in the rematch. And right before the 10th round started I saw the look on Cotto's face that said, there's no way I'm losing this fight. Cotto was ready to do some more work right before the 10th. He won like 7 rounds or so up until that point. I saw no indication that Margo was in that 2nd fight or about to win. He was outclassed in that rematch.
Lol, I knew it was the second fight. I posted the picture to show the busted up face theory has no value. If Margarito busted his face in the second fight that bad, Cotto would have looked worse after the first.
Yeah I have always thought that it didn’t matter margs has cottos number and is in his head big time. Only reason the fight was stopped was the eye that manny pac ****ed up. The second fight was similar to the first. Cotto was losing steam at the time of the stoppage
If its not about the handwraps, why reference the first fight and call the man “Margacheato”?
Whether Margo had handwraps or not, those hits still would have landed. The damage they inflict would be greater with loaded gloves though. IMO he did cheat. I already stated that numerous times that IMO he did cheat.
Pacquiao didn't have hand wraps and all those hits messed Cotto's face up and further damaged facial tissue. But let's say Cotto fought Pacquiao twice, let's put Pacquiao in for Margarito hypothetically speaking for the first fight and then fight Pacquiao again. His face would have likely been busted up just the same. So no it's not about the handwraps, doesn't change my opinion on Margarito though because I do believe he did cheat.
But yes if it hit hard enough that can damage facial tissue, etc....
But point I'm making is, regardless, after those fights Cotto's facial skin tissue was much more sensitive. You can see it in all his fights, watch his fights before and after and you will see it. That's what I'm saying. It's not difficult to see that.
lol @ this douchecan
you watch the video evidence and answer those questions yourself.
Video evidence ?
It's obvious by the way you avoided my questions that you Don't know What You're Talking About .
Douchecan ? Nice . Calling names and avoiding the question . Good tactic ...
Funny how your stupid *ss is commenting on stuff you Obviously know Nothing about .
Never Wrapped a hand in your life huh ? Pathetic .
It should Canelo hands down.
Not only are you the face of boxing right now.. but you let your own people down with shame and let down the rest of the boxing community as well.
In the midst of a career defining fight at that as well.
Margarito was just scum and always will be, but he was just a "fun" fighter to watch, Canelo was suppose to be everything.
Did I say the handwraps is the reason? No
Pacquiao didn't have hand wraps and all those hits messed Cotto's face up and further damaged facial tissue.
Don't put words in my mouth, I know what I've said and what the reasoning is for my comments.
If its not about the handwraps, why reference the first fight and call the man “Margacheato”?
And all Im saying is Cotto got hit time after time after time after time, round after round after round. You are trying to blame it on handwraps instead of looking at the actual facts of Miguel getting hit flush so many times.
Whether Margo had handwraps or not, those hits still would have landed. The damage they inflict would be greater with loaded gloves though.
But Pacquiao didn't have hand wraps and all those hits messed Cotto's face up and further damaged facial tissue.
So yes if it hit hard enough that can damage facial tissue, etc....
But point I'm making is, regardless, after those fights Cotto's facial skin tissue was much more sensitive. You can see it in all his fights, watch his fights before and after and you will see it.
Ok, so if you look at fights before the Margarito and Pacquiao fight and fights after that you will see that Cotto's facial skin got marked up a lot easier than those fights he had before Margo and Pac. That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. So I'm not sure where that got lost in translation. But that is all I was talking about.
And all Im saying is Cotto got hit time after time after time after time, round after round after round. You are trying to blame it on handwraps instead of looking at the actual facts of Miguel getting hit flush so many times.
I have said several times, “up to that point”. Meaning, from the beginning of Miguels career, to the night he fought Margarito. Nobody had ever hit Miguel flush in the face that many times. Up to that point. Nowhere did I say in his entire career.
You really do not understand what I was saying. Its cool. But the fact of the matter is, Margarito hit Cotto more than any other fighter up to that point in time. Thats why his face got busted up. Thats why he lost. You act like he rarely hit Cotto and Cotto suffered all of this damage because of three little hits. No. Thats not what happened. Cotto got hit often, over and over again, every single round. For the entire fight.
Ok, so if you look at fights before the Margarito and Pacquiao fight and fights after that you will see that Cotto's facial skin got marked up a lot easier than those fights he had before Margo and Pac. That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. So I'm not sure where that got lost in translation. But that is all I was talking about.
No son, Pacquiao landed 336 punches on Cotto, Margarito landed 267 punches. So you are wrong, Margarito didn't hit Cotto the most out of all his opponents.
Imo and many others I don't think Margarito fought the Cotto fight fare and on a level playing field. That's my opinion. But I do know and see that Cotto's face after the Margarito and Pacquiao fight began to mark up a lot easier that I know and have seen. And that is the point I'm making. Go somewhere else with your ish.
I have said several times, “up to that point”. Meaning, from the beginning of Miguels career, to the night he fought Margarito. Nobody had ever hit Miguel flush in the face that many times. Up to that point. Nowhere did I say in his entire career.
You really do not understand what I was saying. Its cool. But the fact of the matter is, Margarito hit Cotto more than any other fighter up to that point in time. Thats why his face got busted up. Thats why he lost. You act like he rarely hit Cotto and Cotto suffered all of this damage because of three little hits. No. Thats not what happened. Cotto got hit often, over and over again, every single round. For the entire fight.
Your complaining that Miguel got busted up and it made his skin soft. You choose to ignore that no opponent hit Miguel as much as Margarito had up to that point.
Seems like you are not comprehending exactly what happened.
No son, Pacquiao landed 336 punches on Cotto, Margarito landed 267 punches. So you are wrong, Margarito didn't hit Cotto the most out of all his opponents.
Imo and many others I don't think Margarito fought the Cotto fight fare and on a level playing field. That's my opinion. But I do know and see that Cotto's face after the Margarito and Pacquiao fight began to mark up a lot easier that I know and have seen. And that is the point I'm making. Go somewhere else with your ish.
SMH.....Ummm.....Learn how to comprehend and understand things.
I'm done talking to someone who can't understand or takes the conversation to things that I'm not even talking about.
Spew it to someone else, I just want to converse with people who make sense.
Peace
Your complaining that Miguel got busted up and it made his skin soft. You choose to ignore that no opponent hit Miguel as much as Margarito had up to that point.
Seems like you are not comprehending exactly what happened.
Then you choose to ignore evidence. If you cant see that getting hit more causes more damage, thats not my problem. Margarito hit Cotto more than any other opponent up to that point. Thats why he won, thats why he battered Miguel from post to post. Because he had an all world chin that allowed him to step in and take shots while returning his own time after time after time after time. Miguel had never faced a fighter like that before and believed his power would eventually wear Tony down. It didnt, and he got beat fair and square. Tony was bigger, stronger and able to withstand the punishment longer than Miguel and able to punch back just as much if not more.
SMH.....Ummm.....Learn how to comprehend and understand things.
I'm done talking to someone who can't understand or takes the conversation to things that I'm not even talking about.
Spew it to someone else, I just want to converse with people who make sense.
Peace
Both are bad and the fact that neither showed any remorse and insisted they were innocent makes them look even worse. Margarito probably edges it because he was very smug about it over time and even joked about it.
I want Canelo to get KO'd but that's it but I was happy Margarito's eye was ruined and I wouldn't have any remorse if he got brain damaged to be honest.
I would've loved to see the Marquez who knocked out Pacquiao fight and mess up Margarito's other eye followed by a go to sleep knock out, after rounds and rounds of uppercuts
Both are bad and the fact that neither showed any remorse and insisted they were innocent makes them look even worse. Margarito probably edges it because he was very smug about it over time and even joked about it.
I want Canelo to get KO'd but that's it but I was happy Margarito's eye was ruined and I wouldn't have any remorse if he got brain damaged to be honest.
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