Straight from Adam Smith's mouth
Wilder v Ortiz was for the WBC, which should be one of the biggest titles in boxing right now, but no one in Brooklyn had a clue.
HAHAHAAHHAA
These people have no idea what's going on over here. Would you listen to Jim Lampley tell you what's going on in the UK boxing scene?
What exactly is going on over there in terms of your superstar deontay.....not much so far by the looks of it fella...his numbers have not changed at arenas or on t.v and his purses have not changed much.
Please enlighten me son
lol this in a nutshell...they keep claiming AJ is rubbish, guys like ragadickhead label him a **** champion and yet he would be the best win on Wilder's decade long resume by a huge distance
and like I said before, if AJ is a **** champion then what does that make of wildeR???
A Joshua win would be better than his 40 wins COMBINED. Put that into perspective.
A competitive loss would be in his top 2-3 career achievements.
Any logical and somewhat objective person has Joshua as the #1 in the division currently based on resume, accomplishments and overall package. It's slim pickings in the division. Povetkin has been a pretty good fighter, Parker is a solid fighter, Fury is fairly good but inactive, I agree with your take that Wilder is a poor fighter but his power makes him about average. He's one of the most underwhelming champions I've ever seen. Joshua IMO is far from the finished article but he has a higher ceiling and if he beats guys like Povetkin, Wilder (easy money) and a rejuvenated Fury then he's the real deal IMO.
The notion that he's a fake and a terrible fighter and champion is odd though. He's the only active Heavyweight to win a unification fight (2), he's also beaten more ranked opponents than Wilder and Wilder's best win/only credible win was over Ortiz who had never been a champion and was lower ranked than Parker for example. Klit was old (about the same age as Ortiz) but in much better shape and a much better fighter than Ortiz will ever be and has ever been).
What's funny is that is that Joshua's so bad yet he'd be Wilder's signature win and if he pulls the upset you can bet his fans would put Wilder right near the top of the all-time Heavyweight rankings based on the win and the only way he wins is by an out of the blue KO after Joshua did the hard work of beating ranked opponents and winning 75% of the belts. Wilder would just be Buster Douglas part 2.
lol this in a nutshell...they keep claiming AJ is rubbish, guys like ragadickhead label him a **** champion and yet he would be the best win on Wilder's decade long resume by a huge distance
and like I said before, if AJ is a **** champion then what does that make of wildeR???
You are obviously trying so hard to convince yourself. Can you objectively say that AJ is a bad belt holder when his last 3 fights have been Wlad, Takam and Parker, and he holds all but one belt in the division?
If yyou really believe AJ is a **** champion then what do you think Wilder is?
I dunno if you're just a dishonest guy or you have been brainwashed.
Plus stop bringing up Pac and May in everything. I mean you could search my posts from years back and I said the fight would happen around 2014 but Maidana got in the way. I was not shocked at all having followed lil boy floys whole career.
Any logical and somewhat objective person has Joshua as the #1 in the division currently based on resume, accomplishments and overall package. It's slim pickings in the division. Povetkin has been a pretty good fighter, Parker is a solid fighter, Fury is fairly good but inactive, I agree with your take that Wilder is a poor fighter but his power makes him about average. He's one of the most underwhelming champions I've ever seen. Joshua IMO is far from the finished article but he has a higher ceiling and if he beats guys like Povetkin, Wilder (easy money) and a rejuvenated Fury then he's the real deal IMO.
The notion that he's a fake and a terrible fighter and champion is odd though. He's the only active Heavyweight to win a unification fight (2), he's also beaten more ranked opponents than Wilder and Wilder's best win/only credible win was over Ortiz who had never been a champion and was lower ranked than Parker for example. Klit was old (about the same age as Ortiz) but in much better shape and a much better fighter than Ortiz will ever be and has ever been).
What's funny is that is that Joshua's so bad yet he'd be Wilder's signature win and if he pulls the upset you can bet his fans would put Wilder right near the top of the all-time Heavyweight rankings based on the win and the only way he wins is by an out of the blue KO after Joshua did the hard work of beating ranked opponents and winning 75% of the belts. Wilder would just be Buster Douglas part 2.
one fanbase wants this fight, the other does not!
one promotional and managerial team wants this fight, and the other does not!
i mean really, it's not like they're hiding what they're doing. hearn's flat fee offer is right in the wheelhouse of what joseph freaking parker made. no venue, no date, not even a commitment to fight next. just a flat fee and 48 hours to say yes or no. let that sink in. think about what you'd do if the shoe were on the other foot.
TS is an embarassing fanboy, i would like to see more UK people acknowledge that and save face for their fanbase.
OK let's do this, how bout you find a single post of mine where I say I don't want this fight to happen.
If you do I'll ask a mod to permaban me. If not, then you get the permaban.
Less talking, more action.
one fanbase wants this fight, the other does not!
one promotional and managerial team wants this fight, and the other does not!
i mean really, it's not like they're hiding what they're doing. hearn's flat fee offer is right in the wheelhouse of what joseph freaking parker made. no venue, no date, not even a commitment to fight next. just a flat fee and 48 hours to say yes or no. let that sink in. think about what you'd do if the shoe were on the other foot.
TS is an embarassing fanboy, i would like to see more UK people acknowledge that and save face for their fanbase.
You are obviously trying so hard to convince yourself. Can you objectively say that AJ is a bad belt holder when his last 3 fights have been Wlad, Takam and Parker, and he holds all but one belt in the division?
If yyou really believe AJ is a **** champion then what do you think Wilder is?
.Joshua is a reluctant *****. And I do believe that he is a **** champion weirdo. This was a ****en weirdo response. WTH. This part of your post was the only worthy part of your post to respond to. The wool is coming off of everyone’s eyes about this fraud.
What do you think that U.K. AND American fights fans think about Joshua dick blowers like you, lmao!!!??? If any champion is a terrible belt hiolder it's Joshua's reluctant ass.
Joshua collecting fraudulent belts from everyone else and guess whose title he says he is going after LAST! Lmao. Coincidence? Nah. But Americans are the delusional ones lol. You don't want to see Joshua Wilder. You don't...
You've gotten caught up in too much of this "Wilder isn't a draw" talk. And like Pac's fans you'll be shocked when the fight gets made and then scared for your boy Joshua. Reality will have set in.
You are obviously trying so hard to convince yourself. Can you objectively say that AJ is a bad belt holder when his last 3 fights have been Wlad, Takam and Parker, and he holds all but one belt in the division?
If yyou really believe AJ is a **** champion then what do you think Wilder is?
I dunno if you're just a dishonest guy or you have been brainwashed.
Plus stop bringing up Pac and May in everything. I mean you could search my posts from years back and I said the fight would happen around 2014 but Maidana got in the way. I was not shocked at all having followed lil boy floys whole career.
if joshua waits 5 years and for wilder to get ko'd cold before fighting him i would be pretty upset. how would you feel?
"If"??? I never answer "If" questions. Joshua has 2 fights before I become totally disinterested in him. And I say this because I'll either take Joshua Wilder next or give him a chance to see if he can make a big splash in the US first and then Joshua. Joshua is out of options with me personally.
What do you think that U.K. AND American fights fans think about Joshua dick blowers like you, lmao!!!??? If any champion is a terrible belt hiolder it's Joshua's reluctant ass.
Joshua collecting fraudulent belts from everyone else and guess whose title he says he is going after LAST! Lmao. Coincidence? Nah. But Americans are the delusional ones lol. You don't want to see Joshua Wilder. You don't...
You've gotten caught up in too much of this "Wilder isn't a draw" talk. And like Pac's fans you'll be shocked when the fight gets made and then scared for your boy Joshua. Reality will have set in.
if joshua waits 5 years and for wilder to get ko'd cold before fighting him i would be pretty upset. how would you feel?
You keep posting under the assumption I dont want the fight, why is that? Ive said time and time again AJ will beat Wilder and I cant wait til it happens, not because I particularly dislike Wilder (he is a terrible belt holder though) but because of delusional americans like you.
What do you think that U.K. AND American fights fans think about Joshua dick blowers like you, lmao!!!??? If any champion is a terrible belt hiolder it's Joshua's reluctant ass.
Joshua collecting fraudulent belts from everyone else and guess whose title he says he is going after LAST! Lmao. Coincidence? Nah. But Americans are the delusional ones lol. You don't want to see Joshua Wilder. You don't...
You've gotten caught up in too much of this "Wilder isn't a draw" talk. And like Pac's fans you'll be shocked when the fight gets made and then scared for your boy Joshua. Reality will have set in.
You don't even know what to say to me, lmao. You can't ask me one of those rusty ass special ed repetitive questions that you ask Motor because your scared shook ass has no real opinion on Wilder other than Joshua is a bigger draw, lmao. The fight is going to get made and you can't keep hiding behind Wilder not being a draw because it'll get made thanks to Barry, not Eddie. And if it doesn't, it'll be because of that stiff ***** ass coward that you like as a fighter.
You keep posting under the assumption I dont want the fight, why is that? Ive said time and time again AJ will beat Wilder and I cant wait til it happens, not because I particularly dislike Wilder (he is a terrible belt holder though) but because of delusional americans like you.
I only brought up being a draw because motor mouth said Wilder v Ortiz was the biggest fight ever at the barclays, now I asked him some simple questions to prove that, first I asked him for a source, then I asked him for info on ticket sales, number sold and at what price.
Care to answer those questions and back up his point, since you wanted to intervene?
Afraid of what? A guy who can't throw a jab? Yeah OK lol
You don't even know what to say to me, lmao. You can't ask me one of those rusty ass special ed repetitive questions that you ask Motor because your scared shook ass has no real opinion on Wilder other than Joshua is a bigger draw, lmao. The fight is going to get made and you can't keep hiding behind Wilder not being a draw because it'll get made thanks to Barry, not Eddie. And if it doesn't, it'll be because of that stiff ***** ass coward that you like as a fighter.
This is why I don't listen to these clowns on here. Same sh*t they saying now was he same sh*t they was saying about Wilder vs. Povetkin. Pages upon pages of this stuff but here's a few
You'll see not a single one of those quotes is from me...BUT get back to the questions I asked you.
You claimed Wilder's fight against Ortiz was the biggest in Brooklyn history, now can you back that up? Show me sources? Show me what the live gate was, show me what the ticket prices were and compare that to everything AJ has done.
You know you can't keep ducking me and I'll keep asking, just like last time when you ran scared and blocked me for a year. So you either block me again OR you answer the questions.
No one knew a fight was going on yet he had the second highest attendance for a boxing match at the Barclay's center and was the first Showtime card to pull over a million viewers since Canelo? Stop listening to these people.
And this despite the competition with the UFC and HBO that night? How many people have watched Parker too? Yet, he just fought AJ. These delusional fans need help! Even they don't understand their own expressed logic.
Y'all the same people who said Wilder would drop the WBC if Povetkin won the purse bid. I'm not listening to nothing y'all gotta say
When did I say wilder would drop his belt?
Plus you included yourself in this conversation, claimed wilder ha dthe biggest fight in brooklyn history and have failed to back it up in 5 posts.
You're the same guy who blocked me before lol I just remembered this is the same **** you pulled last time, too afraid to even engage in a discussion because you know you're wrong.
Motor, concentrate on the fight getting made. Don't get wrapped up in his mental midget game. He can talk about draws and all that, but the fight is closer and closer to being made. There isn't much else that he can say after that.
More and more people are starting to realize the truth in the UK. Wilder represents a true danger to Joshua and he's just another scared UK fanatic.
The funny thing is he didn't get too deep about what Takam or Parker sold and what their worth was. He is only getting deep when it comes to Wilder lol. Peep his post history around those dates. He said the same thing about Parker and that fight got made. It's rehearsal for him. Only thing is joshua is going to find out that it's "real out here" like Cole did.
Afraid of what? A guy who can't throw a jab? Yeah OK lol
Y'all the same people who said Wilder would drop the WBC if Povetkin won the purse bid. I'm not listening to nothing y'all gotta say
Motor, concentrate on the fight getting made. Don't get wrapped up in his mental midget game. He can talk about draws and all that, but the fight is closer and closer to being made. There isn't much else that he can say after that.
More and more people are starting to realize the truth in the UK. Wilder represents a true danger to Joshua and he's just another scared UK fanatic.
The funny thing is he didn't get too deep about what Takam or Parker sold and what their worth was. He is only getting deep when it comes to Wilder lol. Peep his post history around those dates. He said the same thing about Parker and that fight got made. It's rehearsal for him. Only thing is joshua is going to find out that it's "real out here" like Cole did.
Straight from Adam Smith's mouth
Wilder v Ortiz was for the WBC, which should be one of the biggest titles in boxing right now, but no one in Brooklyn had a clue.
HAHAHAAHHAAWTF did you even create this post, lmao...!!!??? Hahahahahahahahahahahaha.
You don't travel for the sake of travelling. There has to be a reason to travel. Undercard of a fighter from that country. Bside to the fighter of that country. I bet you're also one of those who complain about fighters not fighting in their hometown. The one time he had to travel as a main event fighter he went even when everybody was claiming he wouldn't go. Here wet go again with that BS.
Again, this conversation about travelling had nothing to do with you. But if you want to keep yapping about it, Wilder is B side to AJ all week long and twice on Saturday, so he should travel by your own criteria.
Now, back to what I asked you, did he sell out Barclays? How much were the ticket prices? What was his gate versus AJs gates? You said it was the biggest gate in Barclays history, why not actually prove it with multiple sources.