confused.
Nobody saw Whyte getting in the way of Wilder Joshua. How did this happen? Whyte Browne was not even in the mix or being talked about or on anyone's radar until Whyte won.
Why are Joshua fans ok with and begging for Wilder Whyte when Joshua knocked Whyte out already? Why are they asking Wilder to commit to a fight with Whyte before we find out the winner of Joshua Parker? There are a lot of unanswered questions that I need answers to.
My thing is if Joshua beats Parker, why wouldn't Hearn make Wilder Joshua?
Why isn't Hearn just openly saying lets let Wilder Joshua marinate a bit and both will fight one more fight before they actually fight.
Why is Hearn worried about Wilder's profile when they haven't done the same with past Joshua opponents and negotiated at all? Why are they talking about fighting Jarrell Miller in America if they don't want to fight Wilder in America?
I'll tell you why.
All Hearn wants to do is go after American fight fans money, media and respect.
If Joshua fights in America and the fight does well it will be used against Wilder again and again. American fans won't let you have any of the 3 easy. You have to take them or earn them. Joshua has a chance to take both and he's ok with Hearn side stepping Wilder which bothers me and boxing fans.
I didn't see Joshua ringside for Wilder Ortiz. Where was he? Wilder has commentated in the UK before so why would he back out?
Ill tell you why.
Hearn had no plans in making Wilder Joshua. He doesn't mind spending a few mil and taking the fight to a purse bid so that the ex kick boxer Whyte can get a title fight in the UK. Like I said it's all good, but when are Joshua's fans going to be fed up with Hearns games or will they? When will we see Joshua Wilder? When???
The list of things Joshua's fans and Hearn have said.
Wilder wants 50/50
Wilder has no regard for human life, Scumbag
Wilder is ducking Whyte
Wilder is ducking Headvetkin
Wilder ducked Wlad
Wilder has no skills
Wilder hasn't earned a fight with Joshua.
Joshua is the champ, and Wilder isn't.
Wilder beat up a woman
Wilder is racist.
I could go on and on, but you catch my drift.
The list goes on and on. Wilder isn't in jail, so I'm wondering what has he done so bad that Joshua fans hate him so much?
Answer: He challenged Joshua to a fight.
I don't care about their legs or Whyte. Wilder Joshua needs to happen. Whyte wasn't even in the picture until he won. Wilder has a year before he has to fight his mandatory. And we don't know if the WBC will make Whyte fight an interim fight with Breazeale. Will they put Joshua's name on the contract? Meet Wilder halfway and then we can discuss Whyte. But nothing happens before Joshua Parker.
In full agreement.
Both them got skinny legs for heavyweights and I already said both been shook up.
AJ wants the fight. It's about making the most of it.
If Wilder gets AJ after Whyte then let's make it happen.
That's my view.
I don't care about their legs or Whyte. Wilder Joshua needs to happen. Whyte wasn't even in the picture until he won. Wilder has a year before he has to fight his mandatory. And we don't know if the WBC will make Whyte fight an interim fight with Breazeale. Will they put Joshua's name on the contract? Meet Wilder halfway and then we can discuss Whyte. But nothing happens before Joshua Parker.
Thats the only option he has the Joshua fight is not on the table and if he wins tomorrow, he will have another body wanting him to fight there fighter.
Wilder had his chance but he wanted to play the big man trying to bullying his way in, fortunately he has now found out he is in control of nothing. Do you not wonder why he does not want to fight someone for his biggest payday by far.
Wilder IS the big man.
He IS the seasoned champ in his prime. AJ is the fresh prospect who is delivering the goods.
Wilder was lining up to defend his belt in Russia when AJ was just making an impression on the professional game.
And Wilder still has that belt and is still the champ.
AJ has defended how many times?
???
We don't know where the fight will be. I just know that Joshua seems scared of Wilder and is hiding behind his promoter.
Both them got skinny legs for heavyweights and I already said both been shook up.
AJ wants the fight. It's about making the most of it.
If Wilder gets AJ after Whyte then let's make it happen.
That's my view.
Thats the only option he has the Joshua fight is not on the table and if he wins tomorrow, he will have another body wanting him to fight there fighter.
Wilder had his chance but he wanted to play the big man trying to bullying his way in, fortunately he has now found out he is in control of nothing. Do you not wonder why he does not want to fight someone for his biggest payday by far.
No that's not the only option he has and as I said, he will wait for the Parker Joshua winner to see what's said. History won't be kind to Joshua if they don't fight.
He's a loudmouth. Talks when he needs to keep his mouth shut.
But he does make things happen.
Theres a reason fights fill stadiums over here.
We don't know where the fight will be. I just know that Joshua seems scared of Wilder and is hiding behind his promoter.
Wilder has Dibella and Finkel in his corner. If they aren't business savvy then who is? The problem is Hearn. Hearn isn't his father Barry.
He's a loudmouth. Talks when he needs to keep his mouth shut.
But he does make things happen.
Theres a reason fights fill stadiums over here.
Yeah it does because now they're screaming that Wilder is ducking Whyte and are happy to see Wilder Whyte before Wilder Joshua.
Thats the only option he has the Joshua fight is not on the table and if he wins tomorrow, he will have another body wanting him to fight there fighter.
Wilder had his chance but he wanted to play the big man trying to bullying his way in, fortunately he has now found out he is in control of nothing. Do you not wonder why he does not want to fight someone for his biggest payday by far.
Seriously.
With the gift that Wilder has he should be looking to retire in the Mayweather level of earnings. And the one thing that is wrong is that he just isn't business savvy enough to see what he can earn and what he is worth and how he can make that work.
He is worth 50% Vs AJ in my book.Wilder has Dibella and Finkel in his corner. If they aren't business savvy then who is? The problem is Hearn. Hearn isn't his father Barry.
I was listening to Wilder on the boxing voice last night on Kodi.
And it was depressing. It was like he couldn't see the big picture and he didn't care about the money. He just wanted to fight.
I think that he does see the big picture. Most promoters come out with guarantees and Hearn doesn't when it comes to Wilder. Hearn has been talking down on Wilder and you remember the interview where Wilder set him straight and let him know that he's only a promoter.
All boxers want money but few will sell their souls for money.
Wilder is one of them. He wants to fight. Hearn is the one who thinks he can boss Wilder around and make him fight this guy or that guy when he can't do jack to him.
Wilder doesn't need Joshua and Joshua doesn't need Wilder, but boxing needs the fight.
And like I said, I'm patient. I can wait until the winner of Joshua Parker and see what they say. It will tell a lot about the future and mind state of Joshua.
Seriously.
With the gift that Wilder has he should be looking to retire in the Mayweather level of earnings. And the one thing that is wrong is that he just isn't business savvy enough to see what he can earn and what he is worth and how he can make that work.
He is worth 50% Vs AJ in my book.
They will. Just be patient until we find out who the Joshua/Parker winner will be.
I was listening to Wilder on the boxing voice last night on Kodi.
And it was depressing. It was like he couldn't see the big picture and he didn't care about the money. He just wanted to fight.
And I was thinking "Damn! Think about winning all the belts and making some money doing it. Filling stadiums!"
Boxing fans want to see him fight Tyson Fury, Povetkin, Parker (can he knock him out?) and AJ too along with a few others but dammit build the fight with AJ and make this era a crowd pleasing era like the 70s but with less skilled fighters...
this fight already has a buzz.....theres no one else either has or can fight to make it any bigger
wilder has already floated a couple of names...kownacki and d breezy...its whatever....those fights suck....but thats the point.....theres no one to fight to make AJ/wilder any bigger
its ripe and its time...whyte is just an excuse hearn has conjured up to prolong this
Both will run out of opponents and both of their fans will get tired of watching them fight other guys except each other. Only thing is it will be on record that Joshua avoided Wilder.
So what possible opponents you got for Wilder whilst AJ ducks?
And for what kinda reward?
Wouldn't you prefer boxers do this like grown men and work together to harvest the greater potential worth?
this fight already has a buzz.....theres no one else either has or can fight to make it any bigger
wilder has already floated a couple of names...kownacki and d breezy...its whatever....those fights suck....but thats the point.....theres no one to fight to make AJ/wilder any bigger
its ripe and its time...whyte is just an excuse hearn has conjured up to prolong this
So what possible opponents you got for Wilder whilst AJ ducks?
And for what kinda reward?
Wouldn't you prefer boxers do this like grown men and work together to harvest the greater potential worth?
They will. Just be patient until we find out who the Joshua/Parker winner will be.
he wont be able to duck wilder forever...the public pressure will mount
hes not going to let hearn back him into a corner and let hearn make money off him when hearn has treated him terribly.....wilder can get by without fighting whyte next and do his own thing
eventually the public will demand it and the pressure will be on hearn
So what possible opponents you got for Wilder whilst AJ ducks?
And for what kinda reward?
Wouldn't you prefer boxers do this like grown men and work together to harvest the greater potential worth?
I totally agree that promoters are *******s. And Hearn is the biggest on this side of the pond.
Deontay doesn't need to fight any mandatories. He doesn't need to fight who Hearn tells him to fight. That's Wilders angle.
And if Wilder can get the AJ fight by beating Whyte that's good enough.
If AJ is not on the cards at all then it's time to keep knocking people out from the other sanctioning bodies rankings list and making yourself a mandatory too.
That way he can't duck you forever.
he wont be able to duck wilder forever...the public pressure will mount
hes not going to let hearn back him into a corner and let hearn make money off him when hearn has treated him terribly.....wilder can get by without fighting whyte next and do his own thing
eventually the public will demand it and the pressure will be on hearn
You must be the most retarded person out there. Funny thing is that you don't even realise why what you just wrote is stupid.
I know, cos he's a champ he can't be a mandatory.
It would still push home a point that you care about the division as a whole and not one belt or body.
Nothing to do with Joshua fans more to do with WBC rating him No1 contender for there title, Its quite simple to work out.
Wilder doesn't need to fight another mandatory for a year since he beat Ortiz.