Do you think Canelo and GBP were cheating against Floyd?

You think Floyd needs clenbuterol to make 152lbs? Doubt that but I do think Floyd puts on more weight between post weigh-in and fight night than people assume he does. Not talking about 15 - 20 pounds but I would be shocked if Floyd wasn't walking into the ring on fight night around 154 or higher. He's small in person but he's not 147lb small in person although he kept in great shape between fights.

Looking back at that one scorecard being a draw, Canelos plaster wraps and the recent failed test for clen - did they try a cheat Floyd? Not like it mattered much. Floyd still embarrassed Canelo. EZ work. To me, everyone was in cahoots to rob Floyd. It was rumors going around before the fight that Oscar put the plan together, thats why he didnt show up for the fight. He later claimed he relapsed. To me, all of the commentators were in on it, and pretended the fight was competitive.

Canelo and Floyd played pitty-pat. Nobody was going to get hurt in that fight. Floyd at 147 and up isn't going to do any damage. No amount of PEDs could have helped Canelo out slap box Floyd.

no, floyd cheated against canelo. it was in this fight that canelo learnt from TBE. Did he learnt how to spell too?

they did try to screw floyd, canelo somehow got a draw that night

Fair enough. I'm reasonable. But if NSAC calls the fight, I would have to assume Canelo was dirty vs Floyd. That assumption would be reasonable.

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Always been a big Floyd fan. I'll have to say NO. Now the body transformation is quite noticeable. I'm still not saying he's dirty until NSAC had the time to look at the evidence or lack thereof. Just because he was found dirty this time doesn't mean that he has been cheating all his career. Let's wait and see. Fair enough. I'm reasonable. But if NSAC calls the fight, I would have to assume Canelo was dirty vs Floyd.

Always been a big Floyd fan. I'll have to say NO. Now the body transformation is quite noticeable. I'm still not saying he's dirty until NSAC had the time to look at the evidence or lack thereof. Just because he was found dirty this time doesn't mean that he has been cheating all his career. Let's wait and see.

I like it. Me likes it alot. So Floyd faced and humiliated Manny - Meth/Coke, avoids random test Mosely - likes Contes cream on his toothache Ortiz - MMA headbuts Berto - Peds and deer antler spray Canelo - tacos and Clen DelaHoya - coke and fishnets Who else am I missing? Marquez possibly... probably McGregor in a few years will reveal he was blowing people for coke

Idk about that handwrap stuff, but that draw scorecard was one of the weirdest scorecards I've seen in a high profile fight where one guy clearly & fairly easily won. And thats what got me seeing & watching for the trend with Canelo scorecards. In most of Canelo's biggest fights there is at least one heavily favored towards Canelo card outside what most reasonable mfers saw. Idk that I can say thats cheating, but its HIGHLY F#CKING SUSPECT that its happened so many times & in particular in Canelo's most competitive fights. The GGG fight had the 118-110/10-2 Canelo card (other cards were four & five rds different). The Lara fight had the 117-111/9-3 Canelo card (other cards were two & four rds different). The Floyd fight had the 114-114/6-6 Even card (other cards were two & three rds different). And to me even that Austin Trout fight had a suspect card. 118-109/10-2 Canelo (other cards were two & three rds different). Me either but hey GGG fans swear by it so I'm just going to roll with. Canelo probably used plaster wraps against Floyd too.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/boxing/2013/09/11/canelo-alvarez-floyd-mayweather-super-welterweight-152-pounds-catchweight/2802237/ "I wouldn't do that. But when the (fight) negotiations started, they wanted me to go to 147. I said that's physically impossible. I couldn't do it. Then they inched up to 150. I said I can't do it, that's impossible. Those days are over. I can't make that weight anymore, I've grown. "Then they went up to 151. And then finally, so we could make the fight, I said, 'If anything, I'll give up two pounds. I'll go up to 152. I agreed to that. Then they tried to force me to be quiet and not to mention anything that they came up with the weight of 152." Thanks. I once again appreciate your effort to back up your claims. From your link: But when the (fight) negotiations started ...... I said, 'If anything, I'll give up two pounds. I'll go up to 152 That's all I need to read. Oh.....and Canelo failed test for Clenbuterol.

One judge had it a draw. What do you think?

Of course he cheated against Floyd. But it didn't matter, Floyd "The PED Slayer" Mayweather I like it. Me likes it alot. So Floyd faced and humiliated Manny - Meth/Coke, avoids random test Mosely - likes Contes cream on his toothache Ortiz - MMA headbuts Berto - Peds and deer antler spray Canelo - tacos and Clen DelaHoya - coke and fishnets Who else am I missing?

Link please https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/boxing/2013/09/11/canelo-alvarez-floyd-mayweather-super-welterweight-152-pounds-catchweight/2802237/ "I wouldn't do that. But when the (fight) negotiations started, they wanted me to go to 147. I said that's physically impossible. I couldn't do it. Then they inched up to 150. I said I can't do it, that's impossible. Those days are over. I can't make that weight anymore, I've grown. "Then they went up to 151. And then finally, so we could make the fight, I said, 'If anything, I'll give up two pounds. I'll go up to 152. I agreed to that. Then they tried to force me to be quiet and not to mention anything that they came up with the weight of 152."

They offered 152 lbsl years before, when Canelo was even younger and less developed. Link please

There was not much chance for 23 year old Canelo to beat Floyd BUT at 152 he had absolutely no chance. That is my point. Floyd is undefeated. No one he has faced has been expected to beat him - after the fact of course. So your point is moot. And my point is simple - all evidence suggest Canelo and Oscar were probably CHEATING.

Yes. Yes. And yes. That's why Team Canelo offered 152lbs in the first place. They offered 152 lbsl years before, when Canelo was even younger and less developed.

So Canelo was younger AND a 12lb advantage on Floyd. Rigged judges. Quadruple stacked iron wraps. Tacos. But 152lbs catchweight is why Floyd won? I think not my friend. There was not much chance for 23 year old Canelo to beat Floyd BUT at 152 he had absolutely no chance. That is my point.

Of course he cheated against Floyd. But it didn't matter, Floyd "The PED Slayer" Mayweather