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pauli can be a clown sometime but respect to him for telling the truth when it comes to corruption that revolves around boxing (judging, PEDs).
canelo was on PEDs way before he got caught cheating and everyone that believes this meat excuse is a biased/racist hater.
you dont play boxing. it´s dangerous enough already, there are peoples life on the line which you can damage permanently or worse.
cheating is always wrong but atleast you dont kill somebody when you do it in other sports like cycling or something else.
ban canelo for minimum a year and only allow him back to boxing as long as he joins the 365 days a year testing program like golovkin does.
I think you're giving PEDs too little credit. If you're able to train non stop with the ability to recover quickly all those attributes you mentioned will improve. You're right, PEDs won't turn an average boxer into a great boxer. But it can turn an average joe into a professional boxer. If you go to any gym right now you might find 4 to 5 really good athletes mixed in with a bunch of people that will never improve. Imagine going to a gym where the entire gym is made up of really good athletes. That's the world of PEDs.
I know the old boxers didn't have the modern PEDs thats available today. That was a different era. Those were the days where you had really good boxers mixed in with a bunch of average joes that boxed.
I agree, it should not be taken lightly. Taking PED’s like clen might not greatly improve baseline physiology, but instead it augments the speed at which you can build on that baseline. So my viewpoint is that PED’s don’t necessarily increase your inherent skills, but they change the trajectory of growth upon those skills.
So GGG fans have a real problem on their hands for this one. Most of the GGG fanboys are Pacquaio transplants who jumped ship to GGG after he lost to Mayweather. And Paulie has been the biggest trash talker and accusing Pacquaio of being on PEDs for his entire career despite not having a positive test and says he was dirty the entire time and why he ran from blood tests. Paulie is basically repeating what he's always said which is saying you don't need a failed test to be cheating. Sure that can help a GGG fan now by saying see GGG is right saying Canelo was cheating in past fights despite not failed test in past fight. But you then are acknowledging that so was Pacquaio. And you are quoting the man who has gone to hell and back to scream Pacquiao was a fraud his entire career for that same reason LMAO
Let's get the :popcorn: out and watch the same users who are on record for years trashed Paulie who defended Pacman against pictures and all kinds of hearsay so called proof and latched to the well he didn't fail a drug test defense now do a complete 180 agree with Pacquaios number 1 critic. This going to be good :rofl:
Yeah except Canelo has failed one. Big difference there pal. Pacquiao being called a cheat is still his opinion. Canelo being a cheat is pure fact.
Get over it.
Sorry, Canelo failed 2 lol
So GGG fans have a real problem on their hands for this one. Most of the GGG fanboys are Pacquaio transplants who jumped ship to GGG after he lost to Mayweather. And Paulie has been the biggest trash talker and accusing Pacquaio of being on PEDs for his entire career despite not having a positive test and says he was dirty the entire time and why he ran from blood tests. Paulie is basically repeating what he's always said which is saying you don't need a failed test to be cheating. Sure that can help a GGG fan now by saying see GGG is right saying Canelo was cheating in past fights despite not failed test in past fight. But you then are acknowledging that so was Pacquaio. And you are quoting the man who has gone to hell and back to scream Pacquiao was a fraud his entire career for that same reason LMAO
Let's get the :popcorn: out and watch the same users who are on record for years trashed Paulie who defended Pacman against pictures and all kinds of hearsay so called proof and latched to the well he didn't fail a drug test defense now do a complete 180 agree with Pacquaios number 1 critic. This going to be good :rofl:
bet you watch soap operas.:nonono:
I think you are giving PEDs way to much credit for how much they can improve a boxer. I believe great fighters are naturally gifted fighters who worked hard to perfect their skills. I don't think modern PEDs can make a great fighter out of a better than average fighter. Ray Robinson is still considered by many to be the best fighter in history and there were no PEDs when he was fighting.All these supposed extremely effective modern PEDs have yet to produce a boxer than most experts rate better than SRR. You assume the two boxers who were not tired after a hard fight must have been on some PED but that is unfair and untrue. Some athletes just have better stamina than others. Some men can run a mile in less than 4 minutes. Most can't but a few can. I have never seen any tests that proves any PED improves a boxer's stamina, speed, punching power or ability to take hard punches. If we are going to say any boxer with extraordinary abilities must be a drug cheat then SRR must have been a drug cheat and of course that's not possible.
I think you're giving PEDs too little credit. If you're able to train non stop with the ability to recover quickly all those attributes you mentioned will improve. You're right, PEDs won't turn an average boxer into a great boxer. But it can turn an average joe into a professional boxer. If you go to any gym right now you might find 4 to 5 really good athletes mixed in with a bunch of people that will never improve. Imagine going to a gym where the entire gym is made up of really good athletes. That's the world of PEDs.
I know the old boxers didn't have the modern PEDs thats available today. That was a different era. Those were the days where you had really good boxers mixed in with a bunch of average joes that boxed.
So GGG fans have a real problem on their hands for this one. Most of the GGG fanboys are Pacquaio transplants who jumped ship to GGG after he lost to Mayweather. And Paulie has been the biggest trash talker and accusing Pacquaio of being on PEDs for his entire career despite not having a positive test and says he was dirty the entire time and why he ran from blood tests. Paulie is basically repeating what he's always said which is saying you don't need a failed test to be cheating. Sure that can help a GGG fan now by saying see GGG is right saying Canelo was cheating in past fights despite not failed test in past fight. But you then are acknowledging that so was Pacquaio. And you are quoting the man who has gone to hell and back to scream Pacquiao was a fraud his entire career for that same reason LMAO
Let's get the :popcorn: out and watch the same users who are on record for years trashed Paulie who defended Pacman against pictures and all kinds of hearsay so called proof and latched to the well he didn't fail a drug test defense now do a complete 180 agree with Pacquaios number 1 critic. This going to be good :rofl:
Indeed...:popcorn:
I think you are giving PEDs way to much credit for how much they can improve a boxer. I believe great fighters are naturally gifted fighters who worked hard to perfect their skills. I don't think modern PEDs can make a great fighter out of a better than average fighter. Ray Robinson is still considered by many to be the best fighter in history and there were no PEDs when he was fighting.All these supposed extremely effective modern PEDs have yet to produce a boxer than most experts rate better than SRR. You assume the two boxers who were not tired after a hard fight must have been on some PED but that is unfair and untrue. Some athletes just have better stamina than others. Some men can run a mile in less than 4 minutes. Most can't but a few can. I have never seen any tests that proves any PED improves a boxer's stamina, speed, punching power or ability to take hard punches. If we are going to say any boxer with extraordinary abilities must be a drug cheat then SRR must have been a drug cheat and of course that's not possible.
You can suck a dyck because PEDs were available back then, fool.
Why would most of GGG's fans be Pacquiao fans that jumped ship. GGG is an undefeated champion with 3 of the 4 title belts and more successful title defenses than any other champion. He defends his titles far more times per year than any other champion. He knocks out damn near everybody he fights. Why would only ex Pacquiao fans like him?
They wouldn't, it was just a juvenile rant because actually defending Canelo is getting too difficult.
I didn't watch the video but from what I'm reading he's right, you don't need a drug test to tell if someone's cheating. The problem with that statement. Some people get fixated on physical appearance. I watched a fight recently. It was a hard 12 round fight. At the fight, during the post fight interviews, neither fighter was out of breath. I could hardly tell if they were breathing they were so calm. Even if they were in the best shape of your life, you would think the adrenaline alone would have them breathing a little bit harder. No one would suspect either fighter of being on drugs. It's fair to say everyone is on something, it's just a matter of getting caught.I think you are giving PEDs way to much credit for how much they can improve a boxer. I believe great fighters are naturally gifted fighters who worked hard to perfect their skills. I don't think modern PEDs can make a great fighter out of a better than average fighter. Ray Robinson is still considered by many to be the best fighter in history and there were no PEDs when he was fighting.All these supposed extremely effective modern PEDs have yet to produce a boxer than most experts rate better than SRR. You assume the two boxers who were not tired after a hard fight must have been on some PED but that is unfair and untrue. Some athletes just have better stamina than others. Some men can run a mile in less than 4 minutes. Most can't but a few can. I have never seen any tests that proves any PED improves a boxer's stamina, speed, punching power or ability to take hard punches. If we are going to say any boxer with extraordinary abilities must be a drug cheat then SRR must have been a drug cheat and of course that's not possible.
So GGG fans have a real problem on their hands for this one. Most of the GGG fanboys are Pacquaio transplants who jumped ship to GGG after he lost to Mayweather. And Paulie has been the biggest trash talker and accusing Pacquaio of being on PEDs for his entire career despite not having a positive test and says he was dirty the entire time and why he ran from blood tests. Paulie is basically repeating what he's always said which is saying you don't need a failed test to be cheating. Sure that can help a GGG fan now by saying see GGG is right saying Canelo was cheating in past fights despite not failed test in past fight. But you then are acknowledging that so was Pacquaio. And you are quoting the man who has gone to hell and back to scream Pacquiao was a fraud his entire career for that same reason LMAO
Let's get the :popcorn: out and watch the same users who are on record for years trashed Paulie who defended Pacman against pictures and all kinds of hearsay so called proof and latched to the well he didn't fail a drug test defense now do a complete 180 agree with Pacquaios number 1 critic. This going to be good :rofl:Why would most of GGG's fans be Pacquiao fans that jumped ship. GGG is an undefeated champion with 3 of the 4 title belts and more successful title defenses than any other champion. He defends his titles far more times per year than any other champion. He knocks out damn near everybody he fights. Why would only ex Pacquiao fans like him?
So GGG fans have a real problem on their hands for this one. Most of the GGG fanboys are Pacquaio transplants who jumped ship to GGG after he lost to Mayweather. And Paulie has been the biggest trash talker and accusing Pacquaio of being on PEDs for his entire career despite not having a positive test and says he was dirty the entire time and why he ran from blood tests. Paulie is basically repeating what he's always said which is saying you don't need a failed test to be cheating. Sure that can help a GGG fan now by saying see GGG is right saying Canelo was cheating in past fights despite not failed test in past fight. But you then are acknowledging that so was Pacquaio. And you are quoting the man who has gone to hell and back to scream Pacquiao was a fraud his entire career for that same reason LMAO
Let's get the :popcorn: out and watch the same users who are on record for years trashed Paulie who defended Pacman against pictures and all kinds of hearsay so called proof and latched to the well he didn't fail a drug test defense now do a complete 180 agree with Pacquaios number 1 critic. This going to be good :rofl:
Most of the Floyd Mayweather fans are all GGG fans, its quite obvious that Pacquiao fans are all now Ward fans you stupid ass DKSAB
I didn't watch the video but from what I'm reading he's right, you don't need a drug test to tell if someone's cheating. The problem with that statement. Some people get fixated on physical appearance. I watched a fight recently. It was a hard 12 round fight. At the fight, during the post fight interviews, neither fighter was out of breath. I could hardly tell if they were breathing they were so calm. Even if they were in the best shape of your life, you would think the adrenaline alone would have them breathing a little bit harder. No one would suspect either fighter of being on drugs. It's fair to say everyone is on something, it's just a matter of getting caught.
No it isn't fair to say that, in fact just the opposite. One fighter tests year round and has never failed a test, the other does not and has failed.
I didn't watch the video but from what I'm reading he's right, you don't need a drug test to tell if someone's cheating. The problem with that statement. Some people get fixated on physical appearance. I watched a fight recently. It was a hard 12 round fight. At the fight, during the post fight interviews, neither fighter was out of breath. I could hardly tell if they were breathing they were so calm. Even if they were in the best shape of your life, you would think the adrenaline alone would have them breathing a little bit harder. No one would suspect either fighter of being on drugs. It's fair to say everyone is on something, it's just a matter of getting caught.
YOU ARE or YOU'RE
Learn how to spell like a grown person and not a 12 year old girl. Now what's "UR" opinion?
That ur a bigdunny d*ckrider. Who talked to you captain save a h*e?
The Ortiz/Wilder fight didn't start until about the 6th round, so scoring that fight was a joke.
No matter what GGG does he won't earn the respect of those who hate on him. If he fights or if he post-pones. Most fans are dug in on their favorites, no one is winning anyone over and changing anyone's mind, especially today. Guys like Loma, & Crawford, can clean out multiple divisions and still be hated on.
well ggg lost my respect when he ducked ward to fight dom wade and kell brook in order to chase the guy that now has him in this predicament
but I wouldn't hate if he canceled this and tried to reschedule later.....it just seems right...that way there are no excuses
id say the first 4 rounds of Ortiz/wilder were pretty boring and tough to score till wilder landed that shot on ortizs forehead
YOU ARE or YOU'RE
Learn how to spell like a grown person and not a 12 year old girl. Now what's "UR" opinion?
Ur simple nuthugger, go suck Clenelo as you always do :D
see...its easy to say "Ortiz only had a punchers chance"...we know where you are going with it
but if wilder doesn't knock Ortiz out then we have to listen to people cry robbery and run the same stuff they do about how golovkin clearly won easily(which he didn't).......do people have a gripe about the cards before wilder knocked Ortiz out? sure.....but it doesn't matter.....cause he got put down...several times and was out
so you claiming the cards were terrible means little....Ortiz was considered the antidote to wilder.....and wilder solved him in his way...now everyone wants to make Ortiz out to be a bum....lol
and the funny thing is ggg fans whined about stuff like that "oh so and so the boogeyman till ggg knocks him out and then he a bum now"
Ortiz was a threat...just as much as canelo....Ortiz was doing fine and wasn't gassing the way people wanna act....he just got hit with some big shots that would have put anyone on queer street
anyway you slice it...ggg needs to cancel this thing of him and his fans need to stfu....
I have no qualms if he wants out and takes another fight and tries to make it again....I just don't want any excuses if he sticks it out and loses
wilder waited and made sure his guy was clean and beat him up
The Ortiz/Wilder fight didn't start until about the 6th round, so scoring that fight was a joke.
No matter what GGG does he won't earn the respect of those who hate on him. If he fights or if he post-pones. Most fans are dug in on their favorites, no one is winning anyone over and changing anyone's mind, especially today. Guys like Loma, & Crawford, can clean out multiple divisions and still be hated on.