Loma and Spence are the best in their weight classes respectively. 130 and 147. Crawford gets mopped up head to head with Spence.
I still think Garcia destroys Loma at 135 though.
Yes but what was that his second fight possibly his 3rd im not too sure. Who were these guys fighting 2-3 fights in?
They were fighting guys with 10+ losses on their record :stickp4:
Salido has 14
So you guys give Loma a pass? ANYONE ELSE that loses to Salido would be crucified. American "Patriots". Garcia has fought tougher competition, moved up divisionS, and beat Salido, the same guy who whipped Loma, and Garcia has yet to lose, but he gets put ahead of a more accomplished PROfessional Boxer. Garcia just stepped up in Weight Class and Won a championship belt, yet Loma beats up on smaller guys (rigo) 2 weight classes below him. So he fights smaller guys and loses to Salido. but he's #1P4P? Over the undisputed 140 champ and a guy who went to someones backyard and won his championship. Two undefeated Champions and one with a Loss to world beater Salido a guy with 14LOSSES 4DRAWS there has to be some underlying issue when a LOSS TO SALIDO outweighs being UNDISPUTED at 140 and WW championship win over Brook at his home (and they're undefeated). But Garcia doesnt get as much credit for beating the same guy...........HOW IS THAT? (rhetorical) :sad6:
Trump voters :burnout:
Yes but what was that his second fight possibly his 3rd im not too sure. Who were these guys fighting 2-3 fights in?
yep he lost he's out forever. there is nothing he can do or no one he can beat
Go wake Pac up you ****en loser. And tell Loma to rematch Salido. All rough and tough style give Loma trouble because he can't fight inside. Lack of a left hand is why he won't become great. And Loma and Arum are what you armchairs call "cherry picking".
Loma lost, Spence doesn’t have a resume yet and Bud is a undefeated lineal champion in 2 divisions. You draw it up.
yep he lost he's out forever. there is nothing he can do or no one he can beat. there will always be undefeated fighters therefore they are better. tank davis is higher since he hasn't lost. lets only focus on losses...who does that benefit...oh the cherry pickers what a surprise. fighting a top guy in your second fight well that was dumb why didn't you cherry pick! improving since that fight? don't bother you already lost! stay stagnant and fight bums. you get all the accolades
Please for the love of god, SOMEONE give a reason that evenly applies to other boxers, namely Garcia. Because Crawford was at least a Unified Champion. Before Spence went to Brooks home and broke his face and took his belts, Brook was considered a good boxer. Loma has done nothing better than Crawford, Spence, or Garcia in the pro game. Loma has Russell, thats IT! And Russell might beat him in a rematch. Where would that put Russell if he defeats Loma in a rematch? Is he #1p4p if he beats Loma? since loma is held in such high regard? I bet not, because (alot of you know why) a guy with 11 fights is now considered to be #1P4P. That sh|ts on most boxers in the game to even think this, he lost to a guy who has 14LOSSES&4DRAWS........Canelo lost to someone who's record is 50-0 and Canelo has a far superior RESUME.....How does this SH|T add up?
I guess Tank is high up on your rankings.......:boxing:
But Lomo is...white doe
There's no specific mathematical criteria for what makes someone number 1.
P4p 1 doesn't even mean most accomplished. Just means, if you adjust for weight, who you think is the best fighter.
The context of the totality of Lomas career, seeing his fights, seeing his ability, lots of people think he's the best fighter on the planet. He's fought enough and accomplished enough to make that determination. I don't know how you can watch a lot of boxing and not be blown away by Loma. But its pretty much everything. His footwork, defense, and adaptable tactics. To the way he fought Rigo. He completely nullified Rigo with boxing tactics and skills. Didn't overpower him. Dude has a genius level boxing IQ. And very very complete as a fighter. Rigo is no slouch, and the manner in which Loma nullified how Rigo fights was very impressive.
We've also seen Mikey and Crawford fight enough to get a good impression of them.
Mikey is an excellent fighter, but he's just not on the same level as Loma or Crawford. Skills wise or physicality. There's a reason Mikey doesn't want to fight either.
BRAVO, BRAVO TO YOU SIR....On a boxing site, someone gives reasons for what they believe in "boxing terms" not "because I said so" reason. But you were teetering on fanboy with "theres a reason Mikey doesnt want to fight either" but mikey says different according to his interviews.
If you are fighting someone 2 weight classes lower, YOURE SUPPOSED TO BEAT THEM/STOP THEM. If he's supposed to be so good. Mikey has sought new challenges at higher weight classes, and WON each time. Mikey has more KO'S than Loma has pro fights. And conquered The mountain of Salido, Loma couldnt successfully climb that mountain. And because they both fought the same guy, there is direct information for comparison available. If his loss doesnt count, who else gets those benefits, because for example Canelo has a better resume and a better LOSS.
Who would you say is the best P4P between them?
Loma lost, Spence doesn’t have a resume yet and Bud is a undefeated lineal champion in 2 divisions. You draw it up.
Damn it's funny watching supposed grown men froth at the mouth over other men's opinions of fighters. Good stuff, I hope you idiots never change.
SH|T IS HILARIOUS, when FACTS make people so mad. But no one has yet to give an EXAMPLE of what makes Loma #1P4P. Look through all the posts and you'll not see 1 reason AS TO WHY. This is a boxing site/forum for people to discuss Professional Boxing, and no one can speak on IF IT is defense/offense, ring generalship, fighting at a certain distance, inside fighting, ANYTHING! Thats WHY THEY MAD:friday:
Lomo, for the obvious reason.
Please for the love of god, SOMEONE give a reason that evenly applies to other boxers, namely Garcia. Because Crawford was at least a Unified Champion. Before Spence went to Brooks home and broke his face and took his belts, Brook was considered a good boxer. Loma has done nothing better than Crawford, Spence, or Garcia in the pro game. Loma has Russell, thats IT! And Russell might beat him in a rematch. Where would that put Russell if he defeats Loma in a rematch? Is he #1p4p if he beats Loma? since loma is held in such high regard? I bet not, because (alot of you know why) a guy with 11 fights is now considered to be #1P4P. That sh|ts on most boxers in the game to even think this, he lost to a guy who has 14LOSSES&4DRAWS........Canelo lost to someone who's record is 50-0 and Canelo has a far superior RESUME.....How does this SH|T add up?
I guess Tank is high up on your rankings.......:boxing:
One result doesn't matter... a fighter's collective resume matters and Loma's resume even with 1 loss (which seems to only be a big deal to new boxing fans) is miles better than Garcia's. Names matter far more than numbers.
Canelo has FAAAAAAAR better names and #'s (even with 1 loss) as you said. So that would make him #1 P4P by your STANDARDS:boxing::burnout:
One result doesn't matter... a fighter's collective resume matters and Loma's resume even with 1 loss (which seems to only be a big deal to new boxing fans) is miles better than Garcia's. Names matter far more than numbers.
So the name SALIDO matters.......thanks for agreeing with my point.
WHAT? EXACTLY MAKES LOMA #1P4P: accomplishments, belts, his competition, like what? his power? most of you are just saying it because, but have provided NO kind of argument, and you guys overlook his loss. Will you overlook the NEXT guys loss, like you do for this boxer?
And if youre overlooking his loss to Salido then you should overlook Kovalevs loss to a #1 p4p boxer. Some of you guys are just saying loma but with nothing to back it up. His offense, his defense, his inside fighting, etc. NOTHING. (which leaves an obvious hole in your argument) And if you peruse these boards for anytime, you would have a strong argument for WHY.
IF HE IS AS GOOD AS YOU GUYS SAY....WASNT HE SUPPOSED TO BEAT SOMEONE FROM 2 WEIGHT CLASSES BELOW HIM....So youre saying he gets a pass because he was green.......Canelo gets a pass for losing to TBE, if that is you criteria. And he's faced better opposition. So should'nt HE be #1P4P. Using your guys argument....the criteria used to be selling 98k PPV's to book your trip to the hall, now those standards are lowered even more. You have to lose to Salido, beating Salido gets you nothing. Salido has 14 losses, so those 14 people.........:stickp4:
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