Ring have Golovkin
TBRB have Crawford
ESPN have Lomachenko
Boxrec have Canelo
Not clear at all
All 4 of these fighters could claim to be no.1 i dont have a problem with any of that list.
I notice a lot of comments about talent and how fighter B is more talented than fighter A etc. Talent is only one factor in determining who is the best overall fighter. Chin, smarts, power, will to win. Those things are all just as important maybe more so. Look at Marciano. He beat a lot of fighters that were supposed to be more talented than him. He kept himself in great shape, hit like a mule and just did not give up or give his opponent time to breath. Joe Frazier is another example. Tommy Morrison was the opposite. Great puncher hit hard good combinations but he had poor stamina and a weak chin. Let's see if guys like Loma, Spence and Crawford can handle adversity before anointing them #1 P4P.
Right now I would have to say Golovkin. He's been champion for a long time. Great KO ratio. He may not be the fastest but his chin, jab and ring IQ make up for it.
I just have to ask... are people who have golovkin near the top basing it on skill or resume or what? Because, clearly he's out skilled by lomachenco, Canelo, Spence, Crawford, etc.. and, who has he beaten? Danny? He barely beat him... and the canelo fight, like it or not, was a draw. He has no super high boxing IQ, and he hardly landed a clean punch on Canelo, where Canelo landed many cleaner, better, shots on him. Gaylovekin @ #3 p4p LMAO!
poor rigo has he even did an interview since then?
Nothing. I think the milk cartons are going to come out soon. Dudes twitter account was always mouthing off and hasn't been since since pre-Loma.
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poor rigo has he even did an interview since then?
Spence is the best fighter out there. Loma is #2.
Everyone is ducking Spence. No one will fight him.
Crawford is ducking everyone. He wanted nothing to do with Mikey or Prograis, so he moved up. But he still refuses to face a top 5 ww. Dude is 160, he was bigger than most ww's when he entered the ring at 140. He bullied smaller guys. There is a reason he won't fight Mikey and why he won't fight a top 5 ww.
If Broner fought the same opponents as Bud he would still be a top p4p fighter. But he didn't. Broner, who is much smaller than Bud, fought Maidana and Porter, both much bigger than him, and he fought Mikey, a p4p fighter in his own right.
No wonder fighters take sure wins, you look great against bums and you proclaimed a p4p fighter, but fight elite opponents and win, and "meh, it wasn't that impressive." Anyone who puts Bud at #1 p4p who is just encouraging the best fighters to take absolutely ZERO CHANCES. Screw that. AB might not be as good, but at least he has balls. Heck, Vargas will be the fourth best opponent AB has fought, and yet Vargas would be the best Crawford has ever fought. Literally.
Go ahead and give prizes and praises to great fighters for beating up tomato cans. If we are going to do that, Wilder should be right up there with him. And why not Prograis? He looked better against Indongo than Bud did. There is no logic to place Bud at the top of any p4p list. None.
Who has Crawford ducked?
He beat the #1, 2 and 3 at 135 and he won all four belts including the top two guys at 140. Had he stayed for this round of mandatory's he'd be getting ****. How did he duck Mikey when Mikey said he'd only fight on Showtime and Mikey calls everyone out then declines. Even his brother said Crawford wouldn't be anytime soon due to style and size. Horn has a title and the other titles are locked up under the PBC umbrella and PBC don't make fights with other promoters for the most part unless it's a huge underdog.
Crawford would have dominated, possibly stopped Mikey. He'd have schooled Maidana and Porter and he wouldn't win debatable decisions he should have lost vs. Ponce De Leon or Adrian Granados. Even the Malignaggi fight he could have lost. Broner wouldn't beat Beltran, Postol, Diaz or Gamboa or at least he'd have lost a couple.
So, again he cleaned out two divisions winning 100% of the belts at the last weight and he's ducking? GTFOH.
Ring have Golovkin
TBRB have Crawford
ESPN have Lomachenko
Boxrec have Canelo
Not clear at all
Ring is the P4P reference. Always has been. Crystal clear.
Spence is the best fighter out there. Loma is #2.
Everyone is ducking Spence. No one will fight him.
Crawford is ducking everyone. He wanted nothing to do with Mikey or Prograis, so he moved up. But he still refuses to face a top 5 ww. Dude is 160, he was bigger than most ww's when he entered the ring at 140. He bullied smaller guys. There is a reason he won't fight Mikey and why he won't fight a top 5 ww.
If Broner fought the same opponents as Bud he would still be a top p4p fighter. But he didn't. Broner, who is much smaller than Bud, fought Maidana and Porter, both much bigger than him, and he fought Mikey, a p4p fighter in his own right.
No wonder fighters take sure wins, you look great against bums and you proclaimed a p4p fighter, but fight elite opponents and win, and "meh, it wasn't that impressive." Anyone who puts Bud at #1 p4p who is just encouraging the best fighters to take absolutely ZERO CHANCES. Screw that. AB might not be as good, but at least he has balls. Heck, Vargas will be the fourth best opponent AB has fought, and yet Vargas would be the best Crawford has ever fought. Literally.
Go ahead and give prizes and praises to great fighters for beating up tomato cans. If we are going to do that, Wilder should be right up there with him. And why not Prograis? He looked better against Indongo than Bud did. There is no logic to place Bud at the top of any p4p list. None.