Deontay Wilder is Physically stronger than Anthony Joshua

I used to think that Joshua's only hope against Wilder was to impose his 260 lb frame on Wilder. However, I have studied a lot of footage of wilder and he is much stronger than he looks. I think Wilder is country strong while Joshua is gym strong - Wilder growing up in rural Alabama and Joshua in Londons concrete Jungle supports this Hypothesis. Some things that prove Wilders strength. Note this list is not exhaustive: 1) Manhandles a 245+ lb Luis Ortiz throught the fight. When Ortiz hurt Wilder, Wilder grabbed on and was able to hold on even in a weakend state. The opposite happened when Wilder hurt Ortiz. Ortiz tried to hold Wilder but 214 lb Wilder was too strong and easily tossed him on the ground. 2) Wilder nearly knocked out Ortiz by punching him in the forehead. Most fighters hurt and even break their hands after punching an oponents head (see Floyd). Let alone Ortiz's massive Cinder block shaped head supported by 245+ lbs of body weight. Yet Wilder punched through him and put him in lala land. 3) Wilder consistently punched through oponents Guards. He did this with Bermain Stevern in their first and second fight, and also to Ortiz who had his guard up for some of the knockdowns he suffered. If you have ever sparred, this takes real strength. Its like one of those video games we played as kids when you hold down square to charge your punch for that move called "GUARD BREEAKERR!". 3) In Wilder vs Stevern 2. Wilder used the referee as a cape. That referee is an average sized man and probably weighs atleast 180 lb. Yet to Wilder he felt like a piece of cloth. 4) Wilder vs Washington. Gerald Washington is a big strong 6 ft 5 in ex-football player and in their fight he put Wilder in a headlock and tried to lean on him the way Wladimir Klitschko bullied Povetkin, only to be lifted off his feet. 5) Wilder vs Charlie Zelenoff. Why you might wonder? Well a guy who looks average sized kept trying to hold back Wilder but again Wilder uses him as a cape and picks him up like you would a mobile phone. Compare this to when Shannon Briggs stormed Wladimirs training camp and was held back somewhat by a similar average sized guy. As far as I'm concerned this revelation is very bad for Joshua because I know he plans on coming in leaner when he inevitably faces Wilder. If Wilder is already stronger than Joshua at 260 lbs then below 245 lbs, Joshua will have even less of a chance in that fight since he gets a lot of his confidence from his size. As soon as he realises Wilder is better in the one area he believes himself to be without equal, he will capitulate.

Comments (20)

i think wilder need to train his legs more and gain some muscle on those legs

8y ago

THEFRESHBRAWLER

Hey now...facts shouldn't count. SMH, AJ gonna teach Wilder a thing or two about physics. When a dude every bit as tall as you, has the same reach as you, is younger than you and has 40 pounds more pure muscle than you do starts smacking you with punches, it's not going to be the same as guys 2/3 your size. Old man Ortiz had Wilder out on his feet, AJ will leave him out of the ring. :boxing: Old man Klitschko dropped AJ had him out on his back lol and he was coming off a 2 year layoff. If wilder hits him like that it’s over. An active younger Klitschko couldn’t even drop smaller BY Jennings lol just shows you where AJ chin is at to get dropped by an inactive 41 year old

8y ago

oscar9992

Also, Ortiz old & fat 240 lbs nowhere near as strong as Joshua lol

8y ago

oscar9992

Wilder punches harder, which actually means more in Boxing, while AJ however is stronger of the 2 physically.

8y ago

Raggamuffin

He fought a 40 year old. No, Joshua fought a 41 year old.

8y ago

SNPER

I aint tryna brag but this one time Jay Deas took me to the weight room for fun after we was done training. I benched 450 three times, and that was after three hours of boxing. And I dont even lift. I just box and play basketball.

8y ago

mathed

how on earth is that clear lol. joshuas got a 100 percent ko ratio. Hey now...facts shouldn't count. SMH, AJ gonna teach Wilder a thing or two about physics. When a dude every bit as tall as you, has the same reach as you, is younger than you and has 40 pounds more pure muscle than you do starts smacking you with punches, it's not going to be the same as guys 2/3 your size. Old man Ortiz had Wilder out on his feet, AJ will leave him out of the ring. :boxing:

8y ago

Boksfan

Lmao this might be the most idiotic topic of the day, congrats.

8y ago

SidKnee

Can't WAIT 'til the American, B Level Wilder gets ducked by or pounds out the B Level, "British Superstar" Joshua... You claim anyone who isn't American as trash fans, but then go on and say that every British fighter is B level. The only trash fans I see on forums, are always Americans with their lies, hate and smear campaigns against any overseas fighter. Yet you say nothing at all to them. But hey, you're just showing the hypocritical nature that Americans always display.

8y ago

SidKnee

Yes I saw that and I was very surprised. People dont realise how physically strong Ortiz is and how good his chin is. Yet Wilder completely overwhelmed both of Ortiz's main attributes. Watch any of Ortiz's previous fights and he's always been the bully. Whether Bryant Jennings, Tony Thompson, Dave Allen or Yusuf Mack, Ortiz has walked through them using his strength. Actually I think now that Wladmir Klitschko is not as strong as we once thought. He tossed around povetkin and we thought that made him strong. However Wladimir had problems with Bryant Jennings physical style, Tyson fury's mass and strength, and ofcouse Anthony Joshua who easily resisted Wladimirs attempts at holding. People don't realise how strong Wilder is? How do you know how strong he is? Have you measured in any way other than the eye test? Because from my eye test, it's obvious AJ is stronger. Just look at the size difference. And when did Ortiz prove he had a good chin? By fighting pillow-fisted Jennings? We never knew just how good the chin of Ortiz was before he fought Wilder. But when he got dropped and hurt by a short lead right on the forehead, I then knew his punch resistance wasn't all that.

8y ago

THEFRESHBRAWLER

When? The only one that's been emotional is you. It's all in the thread go read. What did you prove me wrong about? Are you a fantasist now? :lol1: http://dailyhaymaker.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/sig4.jpg You asked me when does he use his physical strength and I told you girl. Do you not remember retard?

8y ago

THEFRESHBRAWLER

Trying to flip me into the female isn't going to work. You've shown you're the one with female behaviour, Nah. You got emotional when I proved you wrong. Back to the kitchen.

8y ago

THEFRESHBRAWLER

You aren't even making any sense anymore. You're one of those retards that think you can win an argument just talking nonsense until the other gets bored. :dunce: Lol yeah ok.

8y ago

THEFRESHBRAWLER

Keyboard warriot? Scared? How am i either of those things? What should i be scared of exactly? I see you didn't look up the definition of stalker. Theres couple of things certain here and those are you're a retard that throws around insults that you don't understand and you've got feelings for Wilder like a teenage girl does for boybands. Now she’s trying to use reverse psychology and write paragraphs because she’s in her feelings lol. You’re talking about yourself ma’am. You have a heart attack when you see AJ name. Groupie.

8y ago

THEFRESHBRAWLER

You don't know what a keyboard warrior is either. Are you just throwing out insults you've seen around the net without knowing what they mean? :dunce::lol1: You are one and you know it Sherry Zelenoff. Lol you’re Charlie Z sister.

8y ago

THEFRESHBRAWLER

:rofl: Only one that being a little ***** is you. Wilder is a big boy, lots of people say things that insult him. He doesn't need admirers he doesn't even know catching feelings for him like a teenage girl. Man the **** up. Now the keyboard warrior is scared lol. AJ and Wilder are big boys and they like women they don’t need male groupies stalking them. Get some rest girl.

8y ago

THEFRESHBRAWLER

I liked the part where he uses Zelenoff as a positive. Lmao Zelenoff aka Robbie Barrett is the ultimate keyboard warrior.

8y ago

THEFRESHBRAWLER

How is that stalking Wilder? Go look up the definition of stalking you retard. :rofl: You saw someone insult your crush and got all mad about it. Now you're trying to salvage some respect. Move on. Just like I thought you’d run like the little b1tch that you are lol. Typical. Save the girly smiley faces groupie. Why do I need respect from a boxingscene blogger? Lmao silly girl

8y ago

BodiesInFlight

I liked the part where he uses Zelenoff as a positive.

8y ago

THEFRESHBRAWLER

Stalks Wilder? You obviously don't know what stalking is. You were the one acting like a female. "You daren't say it to is face" That's what a ****ing girl would say defending her man.... :rofl: Yea you are the first to comment on all his articles. Don’t play dumb now girl. You wouldn’t say it to his face you’d run straight to the police like the little groupie b1tch that you are. Carry on groupie.

8y ago