Official Canelo Alvarez PED & Fallout Master Thread

Manny using PED's since he was TWENTY? What ****ing planet are you living on, he could barely get 3 meals a day at that age, where is he gonna get money to but PED's? Y'all are some stupid ****ers at this point constantly name dropping Pac, we get it ASIAN'S should be boxing at that a high a level, keep exposing that ***** ass racism some more. LOL. This about race. Victor Conte said the exact same thing. Manny has been doping since the Phillipines or at the worst, since he came to America. Everyone knows it, you just refuse to accept it. Now apologize to me for calling me a racist. (MODS I feel the post I've quoted warrants a ban. This is clearly flame-baiting, and should not be tolerated.) **Sorry about the bump.**

92 votes to let Canelo buy an advantage. Disgusting or just stupid?

Huge decision for NSAC. If they punish Canelo he probably will never fight in Vegas again and that will lose them a lot of money. Plus they will get the irk of millions who want to see the fight happen. vegas doesn't need canelo get real LOL.

The major casinos lost millions to gambling refunds for Canelo vs GGG I! Thanks to the judges, "yes" I blame both! Adelaide Byrd after as many fights as she judged, she is either incompetent or corrupt! I chose the latter! Their is an argument to be made that the fight was close, but 118-110 (in favor of Canelo) did not make justifiable sense. That scorecard, in addition to Don Trella’s 114-114 scorecard, swung a bout that was largely controlled by Golovkin into a draw, rather than the Golovkin win many pundits believed it should’ve been. Top Rank tried removing Adalaide Byrd from scoring the Vasyl Lomachenko vs Nicholas Walters. The NAC denied the request. It wasn’t the first time Top Rank requested to have Byrd removed from one of its fights. “We have a whole history with Adalaide Byrd, who I like very much. She’s a wonderful person, but her scorecards have been, in many cases, off the wall,” said Bob Arum, Top Rank’s promoter. Top Rank officials weren’t pleased with Byrd’s scorecard during the Manny Pacquiao vs Jessie Vargas, which led to their request before the Lomachenko vs Walters fight. Byrd scored it 118-110 in favor of Jessie Magdaleno over Nonito Donaire, a bout many considered to be much closer. Another controversial Top Rank bout Byrd scored was Jose Benavidez against Francisco Santana. Byrd had it 100-90 in favor of Benavidez, the two other judges had it for Benavidez also but much closer. “The complaint wasn’t that she was against us or that she was prejudiced in any way,” Arum said. “The complaint was she wasn’t a good judge, and we thought, it wasn’t appropriate to have her because we didn’t have any confidence in her ability to judge.” Arum said he has never considered Byrd to be a competent judge. “This is what they get,” Arum said of Saturday’s controversy. “(Bennett) had to know that she had some very questionable scorecards in the past. He had to know that because we told him.” Arum said a big reason why his Las Vegas based company hasn’t hosted a fight in Las Vegas this year is because of the commission denying their requests. “It’s the arrogance that they know everything,” Arum said of the NAC. If The Nevada Athletic Commission rules against Canelo it is a message to the fighters (all fighters) but more to the boxing promoters (especially to Golden Boy) and The WBC we will no longer deal with your shenanigans!

Huge decision for NSAC. If they punish Canelo he probably will never fight in Vegas again and that will lose them a lot of money. Plus they will get the irk of millions who want to see the fight happen. Yea, I'm sure Vegas will be HURTING without Canelo. https://media.giphy.com/media/RQMkfKODe8Okw/giphy.gif

But he was the first one that said he wouldnt fight with pacquaio for the sam reason

Yes, Marquez was juiced up. No doubt about it. He had Memo Herredia in his camp. That says it all right there. That being said, he was fighting Manny Pacquaio, who has probably been using PED's since he was 20 years old or so. The problem here, is that the testing protocol is wayyyyy too easy to get around. Especially the NSAC's testing. It's still very easy for a boxer to dope, and not get caught. All you'd need to do as a fighter is micro-dose E.P.O. and use HGH. Microdosing E.P.O., you'll piss hot for 24 hours. HGH only stays in your system for 3 days, and has to be screened with a blood test. In all likelihood, you would not get caught using this type of regiment. Unless of course, you got unlucky. But with GBP on your side, I'm sure you could always be tipped off as to when the testers were coming. Which makes me wonder how Canelo got caught in the first place. Even if he did get caught, you'd think GBP would have enough money to pay off the testers with hush money. Somebody must have had it out for him. I'm not surprised he's using drugs. I'm just surprised it came to light. Canelo already has the advantage because the injection (clenbuterol) is in his system. Both Vargas and Morales, who were allowed to fight in California and New York after striking deals with their opponents. If The Nevada Athletic Commission rules against Canelo it is a message to the fighters (all fighters) but more to the boxing promoters (especially to Golden Boy) and The WBC to keep your shenanigans out of our state!

The fight is going to get cancelled. They wouldn't be offering refunds if theh didn't know something was up. Time for GGG vs BJS. Maybe move that Cruz Mares fight to Cinco. yup saw this as well they are actually refunding tickets etc

The fight is going to get cancelled. They wouldn't be offering refunds if theh didn't know something was up. Time for GGG vs BJS. Maybe move that Cruz Mares fight to Cinco.

Yeah it rings a bell. I was reading the other day about LeBron going to that lab also. Oh I didn't know that, probably why his hairline's receding.

Yeah that, I think. You know, the PEDs scandal that nearly ruined the MLB. Yeah it rings a bell. I was reading the other day about LeBron going to that lab also.

Biogenesis? That lab in Miami? Yeah that, I think. You know, the PEDs scandal that nearly ruined the MLB.

The fight has to be canceled now or else Boxing's cred will take a massive hit like the MLB during their biogen scandal. Biogenesis? That lab in Miami?

The fight has to be canceled now or else Boxing's cred will take a massive hit like the MLB during their biogen scandal.

free Canelo !! they framed him, he should be released immediately he was raised tough, ferreting through garbage cans looking for uncontaminated meat to feed his family the charges are disgraceful !! let the man fight to feed his family ! FREE CANELOOOOO !!

Min 1 year suspension for Canelo. If not, USADA might as well be abolished.

I want the fight to happen very very badly. I thought GGG won the first fight even though I was rooting for Canelo. Even though I want to see Canelo get the loss he deserves, at what cost do we pay for that? If the fight is allowed to continue, other fighters will eventually get the same treatment once their percieved value gets high enough. We've got evidence this isn't a trace amount, but very much a megadose amount at 12-14x higher than the cyclist that got caught/banned. The only reason he got caught is because Sanchez wanted early testing. Canelo's trainer is a former butcher (lol). Butchers know the industry. If the fight is allowed to go happen, this is going to turn out bad. You can't have this kind of precedent floating around out there. Fùck your venue, fùck your hotels, fùck your restaraunts, fùck your casino's, fùck your economy. There are lives at stake here. Canelo needs to pay the price. Agreed. Canelo is the one who should be sued, and have to pay back all the money lost from this. GGG shouldn't risk his health over this. Just because certain fighters we're on PEDS, and no one got killed, doesn't mean it won't ever happen. I wanted to see the fight, but not like this. I'll still watch the rerun if GGG decides to risk his health, but I wouldn't pay for it

Erik Morales found himself in a similar situation and was banned/suspended (whatever word you want to use) for two years wasn’t he? Same drug, same excuse. These corrupt guys behind the scenes have got themselves in a seriously bad way now, it’s all eyes on them now and if they don’t ban Canelo then they look corrupt beyond reputable explanation. I believe this fight will happen and any ‘punishment’ Canelo faces will be enforced in the aftermath. He deserves to be banned and face the same reputation destroying result of all this the same as anyone else would, but we all know he’s just a baby cradled in the arms of the corrupt powers that be. The best way for them to save face is to accept a ban and do his time. Anything else just totally ruins him in my opinion

the fat red kid is gonna lite that boy up like a christmas tree

If this fight goes forward without a hair follicle test I'm putting stacks of money on Canelo. Only a KO can beat him, and I don't see that happening.