Most stupid excuse so far for Clenelo being "innocent"

:rofl: :rofl: yea that one was pretty dumb. sad cuz that person was 4 reals and actually believes it.

I've heard/read a lot, but I think this takes the cake lol How about if Canelo was a dinner guest.Was he supposed to have a tester handy ? Or refuse the food of the host?this would be seen as arrogant and highly disrespectful in our Latin culture.1-levels detected by direct consumption 2-levels by indirect (They are saying the latter) :rofl: :rofl:

Also from that link. "All of the values were below 1ng/ml and therefore in the range of potential meat contamination cases." Canelo's was 0.6-0.8 Wow .. he was cutting it thin there!

where are the links, sources, who reported Canelo's levels?!! I was wondering the same too

Seems legit. Just had a nice dinner with Erik Morales at his cattle ranch. Who woulda thunk it would turn out like this. lol yup, morales' ranch, but he just forgot to mention that

From the same link you quoted. "All of the values were below 1ng/ml and therefore in the range of potential meat contamination cases." So anything under 1 is a pass. Doesn't matter what i think i'll leave that to the experts. And 1 nanograms = 1000 picograms. In the case of the cyclist Contador who was stripped of his titles for 50 picograms, the Court of Arbitration of Sport later ruled that "Contador probably tested positive due to a contaminated food supplement." In response to GGG Gloveking, no I don't know better than WADA but I believe that some of these banned substances particularly the stimulants won't help if taken months before the event. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_drugs_banned_by_WADA

As a stimulant, it would only benefit in cutting weight or by taking the night of the event. It wouldn't benefit you taking a stimulant months before the event. But I understand these details will be ignored by people who will label Canelo a drug cheat and call him by 3rd grade level nicknames from here on forward. Now you know more about Clen than the experts and organizations that have banned it? Ok...

If it didn't have benefits, it wouldn't be a banned substance As a stimulant, it would only benefit in cutting weight or by taking the night of the event. It wouldn't benefit you taking a stimulant months before the event. But I understand these details will be ignored by people who will label Canelo a drug cheat and call him by 3rd grade level nicknames from here on forward.

I remember a few years back Mexico hosted the FIFA u17 world cup. During that tournament a few Germany players tested positive for clenbuteral, and if I remember correctly they concluded it was from contaminated meat, so the contaminated meat theory has some truth to it. My question is why is Canelo training in Mexico when he has to be aware that contamination is a possibility? Now regardless of whether he was cheating or not,his reputation is forever damaged. Ignorance for the German players can be explained. They probably didn't have a personal assistant to help with food. Hell, u17 aren't necessarily what one would could consider pros. It hadn't been covered by the media by that point. Not German or English speaking media at least. They were in a foreign country, and if they spoke Spanish, it would been very limited. None of the applies to Canelo. He has no excuse.

That's also as dumb as saying "Canelo is a millionaire. He should have imported his beef." "A millionaire wouldn't eat street tacos" ...which is just as dumb as not thinking a fighter who is well aware of the tainted meat issue and is being drug tested for an upcoming ppv fight, should take steps to avoid any chance of a positive test.

Mexican fans will now automatically give ANY Mexican athlete a pass when they fail for clen. How can they make a distinction if it was intentional or not? They created a built-in excuse for every cheater in their country.

I want to see actual clinical tests showing how much meat it would take to cause a false-positive on a drug test for Clenbuterol. I mean, don't you think it's possible they were trying to get a competitive advantage, and intentionally took it? Or maybe the team trainers was giving it to them for them to get a competitive advantage? IDK - I need to see more research about this to determine the likelihood of urinating Clen. metabolites from eating contaminated meat. I honestly don't know anything about Clenbuteral and how much is from contaminates or from actually taking it. I just know it was a big deal during the u17 world cup and ever since then, warnings are given to athletes competing in Mexico or China about the meat. Canelo or someone in his team should have known about this. They should have been cautious, they weren't. Now as I said regardless Canelo' s reputation is forever ruined. He will always be seen as a cheat or someone who tried to cheat.

Heh, damn. Yeah our bodies are great at filtering out the bull****, and absorbing the nutrients we need. I would think to actually ingest enough of this via meat, would be the liver of the cow, where it would absorb, and filter and whatnot the Clenbuterol, so there'd be large concentrations in there. I would love to see studies done where a sample size of test subjects eat meat that is confirmed to be "contaminated with Clenbuterol" for like a week - just normal amounts of meat with each meal, say, three-five times a day, for a month or so. then see after consuming about the average amount of meat, or maybe a little more than average, if their piss has Clen. metabolites in it. I read something about a German study done in China. The highest concentration recorded was from a female resident of Shanchuan (might not be spelling that right), whose urinalysis result was 50 picogram per million

I remember a few years back Mexico hosted the FIFA u17 world cup. During that tournament a few Germany players tested positive for clenbuteral, and if I remember correctly they concluded it was from contaminated meat, so the contaminated meat theory has some truth to it. My question is why is Canelo training in Mexico when he has to be aware that contamination is a possibility? Now regardless of whether he was cheating or not,his reputation is forever damaged.

the whole thing is just farcical, the way the news was announced with a disclaimer of tainted meat and how the sanctioning bodies backed him straight away. once again boxing is in the news for the wrong reasons. It's like they're encouraging the corruption

How much does Canelo actually benefit from having high end meat contamination levels of clenbuterol? According to this article, "Clenbuterol’s anabolic effects are primarily seen in animals and not humans." In humans it works mostly as a stimulant that can be used to aid weight loss. So perhaps Golovkin is correct in asserting this will have no impact on the outcome of the fight. https://supplementpolice.com/clenbuterol/ I'm over this "nothing burger" no pun intended, am looking forward to weekend's bouts. If it didn't have benefits, it wouldn't be a banned substance

How much does Canelo actually benefit from having high end meat contamination levels of clenbuterol? According to this article, "Clenbuterol’s anabolic effects are primarily seen in animals and not humans." In humans it works mostly as a stimulant that can be used to aid weight loss. So perhaps Golovkin is correct in asserting this will have no impact on the outcome of the fight. https://supplementpolice.com/clenbuterol/ I'm over this "nothing burger" no pun intended, am looking forward to weekend's bouts.

He doesn't need one according to WADA. All Mexican athletes get a pass. “We acknowledge that the clenbuterol meat contamination issue is unsatisfactory,” said Olivier Niggli, Director General, WADA. “Accordingly, since 2011, the Agency has carried out several research studies aimed at providing analytical means to distinguish ingestion of clenbuterol by pharmacological origin versus that of meat contamination,” he continued. “We will continue to invest in scientific research to try to solve this issue as quickly as possible,” Niggli continued. “However, in the meantime, we maintain that disciplinary proceedings against athletes with low level urinary concentrations, from countries known for significant risk of exposure, would have little to no prospect of success; and, would be very unfair to the athletes concerned.” https://www.wada-ama.org/en/media/news/2017-04/wada-statement-on-ard-documentary only three out of 100 mexican soccer players popped for clenbuterol had a concentration greater than 300 picograms. canelo had double that on the low end. what do you consider a low level concentration?

So it has been confirmed that one CAN have Clen. metabolites show up on a urine test simply from eating meat? Does it offer any idea of how much meat it would take? I do remember seeing the ng/ml amount, which I was curious about from day one, and I do have to say that is really low, as most street drug tests have cutoffs around 10-20 ng/ml. But in another link, it said that .6 - .8 can be expected on average, after only about 2-3 days after last use. In a urine test it has to have been from eating the liver and even in that case large amounts of liver and the chances of that are apparently 1%. I think if a fighter is pissing dirty he's clearly dirty.

Mexico is oh so poor and ravaged. What was he supposed to do? eat lettuce all day. Poor Canelo. https://media.giphy.com/media/vSCrDXTQAx5oA/giphy.gif https://media.giphy.com/media/vSCrDXTQAx5oA/giphy.gif[/ lol shortly after this, Bob yells out "TAINTED MEAT!!!!" lol o the irony