Boxing Fundamentals....Are They A Must?

Not unless you are heavyweight, because in that division all it takes is just one punch and the fight is over. You must be able to fight the perfect fundamentally sound fight against a strong puncher in the Heavyweight division to be victorious. Ortiz was fighting a very disciplined fight by simply out boxing Deontay Wilder with controlling the distance, beating him to the jab and punch. His greatest mistake was getting into a firefight with Deontay Wilder, through the exchanges. He should never started trading punches with Deontay Wilder; Which was the beginning of his downfall. Had he continued to work behind the jab and walking Wilder down we could have had ourselves an upset victory; Because at least on my unofficial scorecard I had him leading on points up until the KO. Ricardo Mayorga had no fundamentals. He was lineal welterweight champion.

Not so much fundamentals, I mean, you don’t have to keep your hands up if you don’t want, but at least roll your shoulder, move your head or use your legs properly. Wilder seriously doesn’t know how to fight. His footwork is his worst enemy, as it’s non-existent.

The term boxing fundamental is often used Most fans and trainers alike view this as a must in a fighters boxing knowledge Yet Deontay Wilder??? Explain him He is proving over and over you can be on top in this sport with a severe lack of boxing fundamentals He has boxing purists going mental What is your view on this? Discuss..... Yes it is a must. An outlier means nothing. One or two guys can get away with poor habits and unnecessary risks and compete at an elite level, with heart and other intangibles, and something great they can do in the ring. Doesn't mean fundamentals hold any less value. Step in the ring if you want to argue otherwise, meet any reasonably experienced boxer and let me know how many of them you handle before you get embarrassed. I'll sign up, I'll meet anyone in the bay area in a gym. I might lose, but I promise you'll walk away understanding that when I speak about this sports intricacies and concepts, it's not just from a spectator perspective, I can do everything I preach in person. Last night Wilder was exposed in many ways but hes been exposed before, he just got away with it. Careful matchmaking goes a long way. It's also unfair because if you come with hype you will have people trying to make your career something around you, if you turn pro as a nobody, people want to reduce you to a club fighter at best unless you prove otherwise.

The term boxing fundamental is often used Most fans and trainers alike view this as a must in a fighters boxing knowledge Yet Deontay Wilder??? Explain him He is proving over and over you can be on top in this sport with a severe lack of boxing fundamentals He has boxing purists going mental What is your view on this? Discuss..... He came unstuck last night but it wasn't a bad run.

he was literally saved by the bell against a 50 year old

Wilder is proof a boxer can be reasonable successful with almost a complete lack of boxing fundamentals if he is a master of windmill fu.

its very very hard to lose in boxing when you are the a-side. this is why broner is so bad.

When he comes up against a guy who can take his punch he's in trouble. Till then enjoy the ride.

No, look at Maidana. He had a pretty good career and came also close to beat a highly skilled boxer like Floyd Mayweather. Whilst it's true he is lacking skills at the sharp end of the sport, make no mistake Maidana was a very good amateur and actually had a better amateur record than Floyd. I think it's easy to stereotype some of these guys sometimes but you need to look at the facts.

The term boxing fundamental is often used Most fans and trainers alike view this as a must in a fighters boxing knowledge Yet Deontay Wilder??? Explain him He is proving over and over you can be on top in this sport with a severe lack of boxing fundamentals He has boxing purists going mental What is your view on this? Discuss.....Not unless you are heavyweight, because in that division all it takes is just one punch and the fight is over. You must be able to fight the perfect fundamentally sound fight against a strong puncher in the Heavyweight division to be victorious. Ortiz was fighting a very disciplined fight by simply out boxing Deontay Wilder with controlling the distance, beating him to the jab and punch. His greatest mistake was getting into a firefight with Deontay Wilder, through the exchanges. He should never started trading punches with Deontay Wilder; Which was the beginning of his downfall. Had he continued to work behind the jab and walking Wilder down we could have had ourselves an upset victory; Because at least on my unofficial scorecard I had him leading on points up until the KO.

Great boxing fundamentals are still no1 and always will be. You look at someone recently like Billy Joe Saunders, you have many more guys like that at the top then fighters who 'get away with it'.

The term boxing fundamental is often used Most fans and trainers alike view this as a must in a fighters boxing knowledge Yet Deontay Wilder??? Explain him He is proving over and over you can be on top in this sport with a severe lack of boxing fundamentals He has boxing purists going mental What is your view on this? Discuss.....Not unless you are heavyweight, because in that division all it takes is just one punch and the fight is over. You must be able to fight the perfect fundamentally sound fight against a strong puncher in the Heavyweight division to be victorious. Ortiz was fighting a very disciplined fight by simply out boxing Deontay Wilder with controlling the distance, beating him to the jab and punch. His greatest mistake was getting into a firefight with Deontay Wilder, through the exchanges. He should never started trading punches with Deontay Wilder; Which was the beginning of his downfall. Had he continued to work behind the jab and walking Wilder down we could have had upset victory; Because at least on my unofficial scorecard I had him leading on points up until the KO.

Well he could be better if he had fundamentals. Maybe, but awkward can work in a fighter’s favor too sometimes.

The HW division is that weak that nowadays you can get away with not having solid fundamentals if you can make up for it in athletic and physical attributes. But, if there was a true elite HW in this division the funds mistakes fighters like Wilder and AJ make would be badly exposed. Imagine what say Lennox Lewis, Vitali Klitschko etc would do in today’s era, they could match these guys physically and we’re also far better technically.

Go see him in a gym, you'll see good fundamentals. Go see him when he's trying to knock someone out and you won't see them at all.

Yes. Most people aren't 6'6 giants so Wilder can get away with not being the most fundamental at that weight class with his natural gifts. When you're talking about the range and size of the average human being 5'6 - 6'0 so lightweights to super middle weights basically everyone in the world the skill barrier becomes that much higher simply because there's more competition than what a 6'6 heavyweight has to see. Not to say athleticism is the end all, but I could see it taking you further if you were a giant compared to being an average sized person (Which still has freak athletes thrown in there even at smaller size).

Well he could be better if he had fundamentals.

Athletic ability.......... Fundamentals can only take you so far if you don't have the athletic ability that you can't learn. OK thanks il guess il end the thread now then Mr smart arse I see why everybody hates you now

His lack of fundamentals almost cost him against Ortiz. But they didn't Which is my point

They matter a lot less at the higher weights where size and athleticism can overrule them and 1 punch means anything is possible.