Did Wilder Receive Help Last Night From Officials?

"conspiracy theories" like this are ridiculous. I've seen this happen so often in fights everywhere now, UK, Germany, US, I don't even pay no mind anymore. You really think a guy gets an extra 20 seconds while a doctor checks his eyes is somehow giving him an extended recovery time?? Have you ever been hit with multiple punches in the face??. 20 seconds ain't s***. How about some respect for making sure these guys don't suffer life-ending injuries at the expense of your entertainment.

Ortiz also needed time to recover. He "hurt" himself more than he injured Wilder in the 7th, so this pause was useful for both.

They "remembered" to check him just as the round began. Definitely fishy. But then again Wilder decked Ortiz. Have you watched a lot of boxing in New York since the $22 million lawsuit settlement? Checking the fighter at the beginning of the round is how NY does things now. The other change I've noticed is asking the fighter a million times if they're okay after a knockdown. Which is why Ortiz was given so much time. It was a full 20 seconds between him going down and Wilder being allowed to follow up.

Now, in terms of why the doctor checks at the beginning of the round, I can give you my best guess as to why that is, but you'd really have to contact the commission to get their official answer. They may feel it would be unfair to the fighter to interfere with the corner's opportunity to hydrate their fighter, give instructions, work on cuts, give the fighter a chance to sit down and rest, etc. The doctor wants to inspect the fighter standing up with nobody interfering so he can get a good look into his eyes, etc and that fighter would be at a serious disadvantage if he had to stand while the doctor ate up his recovery time, ate up his corners instruction time, ate up the cutman's time, ate up his rehydration time, etc. Sounds reasonable to me.

They "remembered" to check him just as the round began. Definitely fishy. But then again Wilder decked Ortiz.

No, I don't think it's hating to ask the questions. You're asking in good faith. Your history has clearly shown you're not a hater or a troll. You would have to ask the commission of why they have the doctor check the fighter at the start of the round. I don't know their stated reason, I just know that's how they do things because I've seen it several times since the lawsuit settlement. But it's not just the doctor at the start of the round, it's also the ref after a knockdown. In New York, you get so much extra time now after a knockdown. There was an Ortiz knockdown last night where he got up at nine and then the ref spent nine full seconds asking if he was okay before allowing Wilder to try to follow up. You can look at the clock and see that over 20 seconds went by between Ortiz goines down and Wilder being allowed to follow up. That's just how New York is now. You get the extra time after the knockdowns and you have the doctor sometimes asking to check a fighter at the beginning of a round. Now, in terms of why the doctor checks at the beginning of the round, I can give you my best guess as to why that is, but you'd really have to contact the commission to get their official answer. They may feel it would be unfair to the fighter to interfere with the corner's opportunity to hydrate their fighter, give instructions, work on cuts, give the fighter a chance to sit down and rest, etc. The doctor wants to inspect the fighter standing up with nobody interfering so he can get a good look into his eyes, etc and that fighter would be at a serious disadvantage if he had to stand while the doctor ate up his recovery time, ate up his corners instruction time, ate up the cutman's time, ate up his rehydration time, etc. I respect posts like this because it’s a discussion about boxing, nothing wrong with that, and yes Ortiz should have been counted out too after the first KD in the 10th round, not sure how the ref didn’t count to 10 in that instance. I definitely counted up to 10, and yes he seem to give Ortiz added time also.. so maybe it is a NYC thing like I was told a few days ago after the fight. And like I pointed out on that day, I don’t mind the extra caution if it saves a fighters life.

iow, steady AF :) ! stumbling around is a SURE SIGN of someone being hurt. pretty much takes away THE GUESS WORK :fing02: wilder was completely clear and ready to go at the end of the round...yet the commission felt the need to have him checked a full minute later. They must not been paying attention like your eagle eye azz, or else they would have known he wasn't hurt at all. In fact you should send the link to this thread over to the head of the Ny commission, just to show him how pointless that whole exercise was.

This "conspiracy" from the Wilder haters is one of the worst I've seen on here, and that is really saying something

with YOUR OWN EYES, tell us what YOU SAW. stumbling or steady at end of the 7th ??? fnck everything else He got hit in the head hard enough to be put on queer street...what effect do you think that has? Use your brain. Go to the gym and get dropped or wobbled and see how long it takes for you to feel 100% normal. Lol @ thinking a guy has to be stumbling around like a drunk outside the bar to have any residual effects from being buzzed.

I also mention this after the fight, was told due to the mago situation things have change in NYC, that’s cool but then someone just ask two questions now... Why didn’t the doctor go to his corner during the break to do his check, and secondly why didn’t they do the same in the 5th round when Ortiz was put down and hurt too. Those are genuine questions, if people think that asking questions like that is hating then so be it. No, I don't think it's hating to ask the questions. You're asking in good faith. Your history has clearly shown you're not a hater or a troll. You would have to ask the commission of why they have the doctor check the fighter at the start of the round. I don't know their stated reason, I just know that's how they do things because I've seen it several times since the lawsuit settlement. But it's not just the doctor at the start of the round, it's also the ref after a knockdown. In New York, you get so much extra time now after a knockdown. There was an Ortiz knockdown last night where he got up at nine and then the ref spent nine full seconds asking if he was okay before allowing Wilder to try to follow up. You can look at the clock and see that over 20 seconds went by between Ortiz going down and Wilder being allowed to follow up. That's just how New York is now. You get the extra time after the knockdowns and you have the doctor sometimes asking to check a fighter at the beginning of a round. Now, in terms of why the doctor checks at the beginning of the round, I can give you my best guess as to why that is, but you'd really have to contact the commission to get their official answer. They may feel it would be unfair to the fighter to interfere with the corner's opportunity to hydrate their fighter, give instructions, work on cuts, give the fighter a chance to sit down and rest, etc. The doctor wants to inspect the fighter standing up with nobody interfering so he can get a good look into his eyes, etc and that fighter would be at a serious disadvantage if he had to stand while the doctor ate up his recovery time, ate up his corners instruction time, ate up the cutman's time, ate up his rehydration time, etc.

Close this thread like the fourth thread about this

pros deal with punches differently. dont act as if youre the only one qualified to access the amount of damage needed to be rocked. i need visual evidence since neither of us were in his head. wilder was steady on his feet and ready to go. fact Listen man, if that was the case, then why did the commission feel the need to have him checked out by the doctor in the first place? No doctors looked at Ortiz before he came out for the next round after being dropped. Obviously they felt wilder was in much worse shape...so don't pretend I'm the only one who thinks so.

I also mention this after the fight, was told due to the mago situation things have change in NYC, that’s cool but then someone just ask two questions now... Why didn’t the doctor go to his corner during the break to do his check, and secondly why didn’t they do the same in the 5th round when Ortiz was put down and hurt too. Those are genuine questions, if people think that asking questions like that is hating then so be it. That's a very good question...Ortiz was dropped and hurt at the end of the round too.

It's probably a NYC thing. After the lawsuit against NYSAC after the Perez-Magomed fight more caution has been taken during fights in NYC. Wilder looked badly hurt so there's probably some protocol to follow. On the other hand, when Ortiz was hurt, he didn't get the same treatment that I can remember, so you may have a point. But I know this is not the only fight in NYC that i've seen paused due to a fighter being badly hurt and the ref being concerned.

:haha: wilder calmly and steadily walked back to his corner and was more than ready to engage. seriously, WATCH the end of that rd. I've watched the fight twice...but more importantly, I know how it feels to get buzzed/hurt. Better believe the effects from that lasted more than a minute. Just cuz a guy isn't tripping over his own feet doesn't mean his mind his completely clear and his legs are totally under him. This is truly a pointless thing to argue about. The broader point here is that the commission should adjust their procedure so the fight can resume at the beginning of the round.

I also mention this after the fight, was told due to the mago situation things have change in NYC, that’s cool but then someone just ask two questions now... Why didn’t the doctor go to his corner during the break to do his check, and secondly why didn’t they do the same in the 5th round when Ortiz was put down and hurt too. Those are genuine questions, if people think that asking questions like that is hating then so be it.

prove/explain the b/u What's to explain? A fighter was out on his feet and the end of the round and got a bit of extra time to recover before the next round started. If your argument is gonna be that the minute was enough and wilder was fully recovered, just don't bother, cuz I'm not arguing with that. That would be just as speculative and unknown as what you're asking me to prove/explain. It's just common sense that someone who is hurt needs time to recover...more time is certainly not a detriment.

read some of the threads with a similar theme. one must still ask, did he need a ''time out''....... ant hills are always mountains I've only looked at this thread. Did he need a timeout? Who knows, but did he benefit from it? Hell yes. Like I said, not Wilder's fault, but the commission could be more efficient in those types of situations.

people are making it as if team wilder was scheming to get their guy more time. he was ready to go but the ref/doc stopped it. an alternative title..... ''did wilder need or call for a time out ?'' I'm not aware of anyone acting like wilder's team was scheming...I see people simply asking why the extra time to recover. Paulie said the same thing during the broadcast. Wilder himslef did nothing wrong.

No. New York followed their new safety procedures. Nothing was done that hasn't been done numerous times recently in New York. Worth nothing that Ortiz was given an extra ten seconds after one of his knockdowns. That's just how things are in New York now. I didn't notice that about the Ortiz knockdown. I was also unaware of New York's new safety policies. If this is a new thing, I'm cool with it. The Magomed fight made me stop watching all together for a while. You say he was on the verge of getting stopped yet you question why the ring doctor would want to see him in that condition??? I just don't remember seeing it before. It's atypical in my viewing experience, surely it's reasonable to note it? Any good reason they couldn't check him out between rounds in his corner? Good question. That's what I'm accustomed to seeing. When you take a break from NSB and then come back here and read shyt like this, you are reminded how delusional people here are. They can stretch anything and figure out a way to make themselves believe it. If that is directed at me, you got it all wrong. I'm just asking questions of what people thought. In case you missed it, I've been giving respect to Wilder in almost every post since the win. I am very impressed at his work from last night.