What a damn good fight Wilder-Ortiz was

Want to bet on AJ Wilder my friend?? When the fight happens, sure!

The first 4 rounds were dreadful they were both being very careful and wilder was trying to find his range which can be hard to do vs a southpaw with skill. boxing fans are the worst fans there is lol damn man it was a good fight

I enjoyed it. Always felt Wilder would win, even when he was hurt. Both showed they were top fighters, Wilder had the punch and the energy. I was entertained. Want to bet on AJ Wilder my friend??

That was intense excitement...loved it. Bruh, that right hook before the bell was NASTY. Wilder has one hell of a chin.

Not before when Wilder dropped him when his tank was full? Or a little after when Ortiz almost had him out of there when his tank still had gas in it? Or was it during the schooling Ortiz was putting on Wilder until the late rounds? Did he run out of gas before or after Wilder dropped him the second time? e never ad full tank. zee guy iz old & fat.

He has a lazy jab, no body attack, horrible footwork, telegraphs his punches, horrible defense. His fights look like tough man contests. But if that is your thing more power to you. I don't mind a good scrap between brawlers but let's not try to elevate their status as the second coming of Ali and Frazier. Agreed. I'd love to see him be more technically sound but his power didn't allow him to fix a lot of those things. No changing him now.

You're right. Funny how both fights picked up and gave us fans some entertainment HW's take longer to feel each other out since one punch can end the fight. I didn't' expect four rounds of it, but more than one round.

I think Wilder is gonna grow a lot from this fight with his camp getting to watch this victory on film. Ended with a right uppercut on the inside too which was great to see. I really want to see him start throwing out stiffer and snappier jabs because it's like his .50 caliber pistol next to his right arm bazooka.

the fun happened after the short old fat guy gassed himself. lol Not before when Wilder dropped him when his tank was full? Or a little after when Ortiz almost had him out of there when his tank still had gas in it? Or was it during the schooling Ortiz was putting on Wilder until the late rounds? Did he run out of gas before or after Wilder dropped him the second time?

He has a lazy jab, no body attack, horrible footwork, telegraphs his punches, horrible defense. His fights look like tough man contests. But if that is your thing more power to you. I don't mind a good scrap between brawlers but let's not try to elevate their status as the second coming of Ali and Frazier. I don't think he is Ali or Frazier; neither do I think those guys did not have a lot of weaknesses too. I don't think Wilder's footwork is as bad as you make it, but if that's what you see, I have to respect your opinion. He does not have enough body attack - I'd give you that. I don't think he has a lazy jab - I think he gave Ortiz too much respect (rightfully so), and was trying to avoid the uppercut or being countered with a straight left.

Skeptic observer? How come everyone in this division is weak? His greatest strength is not his size, maybe power. I think what separates him is his explosiveness (speed + power). He is usually undersized compared to those he fights. No one is saying Wilder is the most technical but give him credit for some of his IQ in the ring. He avoided problems for most of the 1st 4 rounds, despite not doing as much as he typically does - thus showing respect for Ortiz. There are people as tall as Wilder who cannot do what he does, e.g. the last guy Ortiz fought. He had size, he was tall too but lacked power, speed, athleticism, chin, will, etc. He has a lazy jab, no body attack, horrible footwork, telegraphs his punches, horrible defense. His fights look like tough man contests. But if that is your thing more power to you. I don't mind a good scrap between brawlers but let's not try to elevate their status as the second coming of Ali and Frazier.

Hater or skeptic observer? Why should I jump on the Wilder train when I see very obvious flaws in his game and while acknowledging his greatest strength is his size and power. Why wouldn't he flourish in such a weak division? Skeptic observer? How come everyone in this division is weak? His greatest strength is not his size, maybe power. I think what separates him is his explosiveness (speed + power). He is usually undersized compared to those he fights. No one is saying Wilder is the most technical but give him credit for some of his IQ in the ring. He avoided problems for most of the 1st 4 rounds, despite not doing as much as he typically does - thus showing respect for Ortiz. There are people as tall as Wilder who cannot do what he does, e.g. the last guy Ortiz fought. He had size, he was tall too but lacked power, speed, athleticism, chin, will, etc.

Hater as usual. At least you are true to your nature - always finding excuses for every Wilder win. It was his power that made him avoid most of Ortiz's punches in the 1st 4 rounds, right? Pathetic! Hater or skeptic observer? Why should I jump on the Wilder train when I see very obvious flaws in his game and while acknowledging his greatest strength is his size and power. Why wouldn't he flourish in such a weak division?

Tell that to his die hard fans. Talking about Wilder like he is the GOAT HW. Wilder himself perpetuating that nonsense. If a fighter is going to talk big, he should be more than just a one-trick pony. Wilder invites this sort of criticism by running his mouth so much. I could accept this fight for what it is, three decent rounds of sporadic action between two guys who would never have even ranked in the top ten 15 years ago. Hater as usual. At least you are true to your nature - always finding excuses for every Wilder win. It was his power that made him avoid most of Ortiz's punches in the 1st 4 rounds, right? Pathetic!

you're usually the first one trashing fights like that...callin em rockem sockem robots and sheet. Why the change of heart? Great point, I would love to see this addressed.

Eh, I think it's kinda dumb to put on this fight expecting a high level of skill to be on display. If that's what you need in every single fight, why even watch Wilder at all? You already know in advance that he's not that fighter. Part of why I enjoy boxing is because of the variety. It would be boring to me personally if every fight was Wilder-Ortiz. And it would be boring if every fight was Mayweather or Loma or whoever putting on a boxing clinic. Tell that to his die hard fans. Talking about Wilder like he is the GOAT HW. Wilder himself perpetuating that nonsense. If a fighter is going to talk big, he should be more than just a one-trick pony. Wilder invites this sort of criticism by running his mouth so much. I could accept this fight for what it is, three decent rounds of sporadic action between two guys who would never have even ranked in the top ten 15 years ago.

Outside of Ortiz ring generalship there was little to no skill on display. Wild, sloppy punches. One guy old and gassed, the other highly overrated and outside of his size and power has very little else to offer. I've seen my share of "damn good fights" and this wasn't one of them. To each their own. Eh, I think it's kinda dumb to put on this fight expecting a high level of skill to be on display. If that's what you need in every single fight, why even watch Wilder at all? You already know in advance that he's not that fighter. Part of why I enjoy boxing is because of the variety. It would be boring to me personally if every fight was Wilder-Ortiz. And it would be boring if every fight was Mayweather or Loma or whoever putting on a boxing clinic.

that article just says about complaints about medical care after the event and that fight sounds like it was a gruelling beating rather than a big shot and a fighter being wobbled. from memory (i was tired and it was 4am over here) he was checking whether the ring was wet and **** like that too lol, it looked like stalling tactics to me. what happened in the fight that caused the lawsuit isn't the issue, the issue is that the state of new york had to pay $22 million and now there is pressure on the commission to take every extra precaution possible. which is why in recent new york fights we've had doctors demanding to check a fighter at the start of a round before he walks out. why the refs stall after a knockdown to ask the fighter a million times if they want to continue. they were even making them walk right, walk left, walk forward for a while, but it was getting so ridiculous that they at least toned that down. point being, both fighters benefited from new york's new safety paranoia. wilder got the extra time before the 8th when the doctor demanded to check him and ortiz got extra time after the knockdowns.

it leaves a bitter taste what happened with the ref buying time for wilder had nothing to do with the ref. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/11/sports/mago-boxer-settlement-new-york.html the commission makes the doctor check on the fighter before the next round if it looks like they were hurt in the previous round. you'll also notice the ref gave ortiz a lot of time after the knockdowns, asking him over and over if he was okay. everything in new york is very cautious now because of the legal settlement.

Meh, it was alright. If Wilder wasnt fuking Ortiz up (outside of rd 8) it was an occasional punch, mainly posturing affair.