The problem is this: even if the Op is right about ortiz being 50, that still doesn't change the fact that Wilder just beat an opponent that is harder hitting and technically superior to Anthony Joshua...who happens to have been a southpaw to boot.
I can see why that is scary af to AJ fan.
You guys have a right to be shytting yourselves...
Delusion at its finest here
It’s boxing not baseball so I don’t see the benefit of lying about your age. You still have to fight. And he’s been around amateurs for years. If he was really old the odds makers would pick up on that IMO.
Handicappers definitely look differently at a 40+ year old fighter and for good reason! Ortiz had Wilder where he wanted him but took his foot off the gas which came back to bit him in the áss. That's possibly a sign of age.
Anyway's, the odds makers only start the lines and the units being wagered change it from there. So essentially, odds makers make odds and public perception (units being wagered) alters those lines.
here comes the expected and predictable posts about Wilder. Same guys were ones saying Wilder was scared of Ortiz not too long ago. You guys are too predictable these days the bottom line is Wilder got it done and Ortiz is still a dam good fighter.
Not to mention Joshua biggest win is against someone older then Ortiz and older then his rumored age as well. enough with the bs haters. How about instead of Wilder goes life and death with a 38 year old you talk about how Wilder went life and death with someone a good 40 pounds heavier.
Why people hate Wilder so much I honestly dont understand. Someone like Mayweather its obvious why so many did but with Wilder it literally makes no sense. Its not like the guy is not trying to fight the best
OK someone please explain to me why some people can't be a fan of a boxer unless they possess absolutely textbook boxing skills. Yeah Wilder isn't going to write a book on boxing fundamentals but he has a killer punch and charisma. Reading the comments by some I get the impression they are more snob than boxing fans.
The problem is this: even if the Op is right about ortiz being 50, that still doesn't change the fact that Wilder just beat an opponent that is harder hitting and technically superior to Anthony Joshua...who happens to have been a southpaw to boot.
I can see why that is scary af to AJ fan.
You guys have a right to be shytting yourselves...
From looking at all the threads in the first page ****ting on Wilders win, I'll assume it's peak hour in the UK right now.
Lol so many Wilders threads why tho?
We all have to be honest here and say, that was a horrible performance by wilder. He was absolutely clueless in that fight and easily got outboxed by ortiz. He deserves credit for the heart that he showed and the way he came back, but if it wasn't for his straight right hand he would be a gatekeeper type fighter. How the judges had wilder ahead on the cards terrifies me.
Agreed
One has to wonder are wilder fans confused nba fans who have no idea what boxing is, the guy got outboxed and nearly stopped in 8 rounds before the 50 year old gassed so wilder won because of that
if you look at his fights, youd notice no significant change.
thing is, when a dude gets rocked, they look as if their legs are broken.
serg was rocked
... Martin Murray floored Sergio two times, back in 2013... As I said back then: Sergio's legs were gone...
We all have to be honest here and say, that was a horrible performance by wilder. He was absolutely clueless in that fight and easily got outboxed by ortiz. He deserves credit for the heart that he showed and the way he came back, but if it wasn't for his straight right hand he would be a gatekeeper type fighter. How the judges had wilder ahead on the cards terrifies me.
when cotto beat sergio, haters were all about ''cotto beat a cripple'' but not a single PRE FIGHT ''sergios a cripple, doe'' thread. people were saying cotto is leaving on a stretcher.
these ''after the fact'' types :lol1:
Since the Chavez Jr fight I always said that Sergio was a cripple...
Loser thread
Just can’t man up and give wilder his props
Ortiz is probably the most skilled HW and it must burn these f.aggots that Wilder took him out
Life and death with a 50 year old cuban, way past his, not that great actually, best. Pathetic. I am more sure than ever that aj will take this guy's head off.
Yup but wilder will keep ducking tho
Life and death with a 50 year old cuban, way past his, not that great actually, best. Pathetic. I am more sure than ever that aj will take this guy's head off.
Aj textbook style should counter wilder who has bad balance, combinations, and is easy to read. His trainer should show him different looks like his jab is just one thing over and over...
He has a chin though and aj only has 20 pro fights so is kind of a novice himself
Maybe because a fight with the vastly superior and more proven Wlad became available for vastly more money?That is bullcrap! Once Wlad retired in August of 2017, the WBA sent two letters; One to Joshua and the other to Ortiz to make the fight happen in 30 days or face a purse bid. When Team Joshua refused Ortiz, then threatened legal action against them and the WBA but then once Deontay Wilder stepped up to the plate and had agreed to offer King Kong an opportunity to challenge him for his WBC tile, then Team Ortiz
dropped their threat of taking legal action against both the WBA, Eddie Hearn and Anthony Joshua.
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