Edwin Valero vs. Vassyl Lomachenko at 135

Nah, Valero was like the Wilder of lightweight so yeah, Loma via UD...

I got Valero via brutal knock out. Edwin had a killer instinct (No pun intended). He'll beat the dog ***** out of loma.

Valero died prematurely and we've never seen his peak yet so...kinda pointless to ask

My vote of choice if it would have been an option would be Loma frustrating Valero until the point of Edwin hanging himself between the 7th and 8th round.

Valero was the type of talent that comes along once in a generation. He'd be p4p number 1 if he was still around Hahaha good joke.

Valero wasn't really very good. Valero had sheer rage on his side and it was enough against the class of fighters he faced. Loma systematically beats Valero up till he quits.

valero > salido...... 'nough said Exactly. Valero toys with Lomo.

Loma by wide decision. Yes. I never bought into the Valero hype.

This is the equivalence of people thinking Ike Ibeabuchi would have beaten Lennox Lewis or Wlad Klitschko. Ike was another fighter like Valero that people overrate heavily because of his mythical unbeatable status. That's a bit unfair. Ike Ibeabuchi went toe to toe with a prime David Tua and Chris Byrd, becoming the first to stop Chris Byrd, and also beat both. David Tua, Wladimir Klitschko, Vitali Klitschko, Evander Holyfield--- nobody stopped Chris Byrd when he was undefeated/or in his prime like Ibeabuchi did. Ike Ibeabuchi was a proven heavyweight, and would have given Lewis and Wladimir a tough challenge back in the day. As we have seen before, lesser fighters can beat the best at heavyweight (which rings true for both Lewis and Wladimir).

Lomachenko would win by a wide decision. I wish Valero had lived so that Pacquiao would have beaten him up and put an end to the myth of Valero as some kind of elite fighter.

This is the equivalence of people thinking Ike Ibeabuchi would have beaten Lennox Lewis or Wlad Klitschko. Ike was another fighter like Valero that people overrate heavily because of his mythical unbeatable status. I think Ibeabuchi was better and more proven and with Heavyweight being a bit weaker he would likely have been very good for some time if he wasn't absolutely insane. Valero could/would have fought Marquez and got countered to death or Pacquaio and been eaten alive.

This is the equivalence of people thinking Ike Ibeabuchi would have beaten Lennox Lewis or Wlad Klitschko. Ike was another fighter like Valero that people overrate heavily because of his mythical unbeatable status.

Valero would murder this guy Lomachenko. Pretty sure you said the same of Linares, no? Lomachenko would box circles around the eternally overrated Valero.

People actually picking Valero because of his mythical status. Hilarious. Loma would have toyed with him and possibly make him quit.

Valero would murder this guy Lomachenko.

Loma by Wide UD. Lets be honest, Valero was talented but only when matched with a certain type of fighter.

I actually think at 135. Edwin Valero KO's Lomachenko. http://ringsidereport.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/10Lomachenko.jpg https://media1.britannica.com/eb-media/69/147469-004-95F3D403.jpg

Valero had solid skills but not elite level. I think he'd have been schooled and broke down by Marquez and obviously blitzed by Pacquaio around that time. Loma can mix defense and offense and use angles well both. His feet would just have Valero swinging too wild and your not going to win consistent rounds like that. Valero had good upper body movement and feints but not a better frontier or thinker than Loma who'd probably have a clear strategy early. I don't think Loma had the power to take advantage of his wildness the way Marquez would have IMO but he hits often enough and frustrates enough that he'd pick up too many rounds IMO. I'd pick Crawford over Valero via KO, I'd pick Garcia to beat him. I'd have picked Valero to wreck Linares but I can't think of many elites I'd have picked the murderer over. Castillo, Casamayor Id pick over him too perhaps not Corrales.Look, I try not to let my bias get in the way of Loma. I'm old school, not old. If you don't gain revenge against a guy who beat you i do at times hold a grudge, but not for long. Loma didn't rematch Salido no matter what the circumstance was. So I have no choice but to ride with the style that gave Loma trouble. Loma didn't show me that he could over come that style. Sweatpea had to show me that he could beat a Ramirez, Shane had to show me that he could at least compete with Forrest in which he did. Many rematches have answered my questions. Even Ward beating Kov showed me that Ward could over come a guy who many said beat him. Valero was wild but calculated. He started becoming more and more calculated and calming with each fight. Valero was getting better and better. His jab, his body punching, his legendary training...he was just getting better and better. We will never know who would beat who when it came to this guy so all we have is endless conversation of what could've been. Floyd, Bud, and Pac will give anyone a fight. I do think that Valero had the style to beat Marquez...but I loved Marquez lol. I wouldn't pick a winner I'd just watch. No offense but Castillo, Casa, Linares, and Garcia imo don't have a chance.

Lmao. Loma would run the entire fight. And being that Loma doesn't have power wouldve made things worse for Loma too. To say that Valero wasn't that skilled shows either your true bias for Loma or your inability to analyze true skill. I'll go with your love for Loma. You've shown that in the past so ill ride with that lol. Valero had solid skills but not elite level or at least average technique. I think he'd have been schooled and broke down by Marquez and obviously blitzed by Pacquaio around that time. Loma can mix defense and offense and use angles well both. His feet would just have Valero swinging too wild and your not going to win consistent rounds like that. Valero had good upper body movement and feints but not a better frontier or thinker than Loma who'd probably have a clear strategy early. I don't think Loma had the power to take advantage of his wildness the way Marquez would have IMO but he hits often enough and frustrates enough that he'd pick up too many rounds IMO. I'd pick Crawford over Valero via KO, I'd pick Garcia to beat him. I'd have picked Valero to wreck Linares but I can't think of many elites I'd have picked the murderer over. Castillo, Casamayor Id pick over him too perhaps not Corrales.

Your theory is that if you have a loss early in your career that you can not beat any undefeated fighter. Theory? My point is that the style of Salido always gives Loma trouble whether it was Loma's 2nd fight or 70th fight period. And I believe that Valero has more in his arsenal than Salido does along with a come forward style...therefore I believe that Valero thrashes Loma.