Why have BoxRec got Charr as the WBA Champ when he’s only got the ‘regular’ title and Joshua’s the ‘Super’ (real) champion..
The WBA are really annoying me with having multiple world champions. It makes no sense. Is there any indication the WBA are going to do anything about this bull****?
your goddamn right he is, Diamond boy got playahaters shook for real. Shoot him 5 times? comes back stronger. KO'd by a cruiserweight cold? comes back stronger and wins the world title baby. Division is on notice. line them up and we knock them down. :boxing:
Did some quick research:
105: WBA Super: Byron Rojas Vs WBA: Thammanoon Niyomtrong => Super title got rid of, 2016-06-29
108: New WBA Super title after Ryoichi Taguchi unified against Milan Melindo
112: WBA Super: Juan Francisco Estrada => Super title got rid of after Estrada moved up in weight, 2015-09-26
115: WBA Super: Vic Darchinyan => Darchinyan moved up, 2010-03-06
118: WBA Super: Ryan Burnett, WBA: Jamie Mcdonnell
122: WBA Super: Guillermo Rigondeaux => I think he was stripped of his WBA Super title, 2017-12-09
126: WBA Super: Leo Santa Cruz, WBA: Abner Mares => Boxrec has the fight for the WBA Super title, could be a mistake
130: WBA Super: Jeezrel Corrales => corrales vs machado was for the WBA title, not sure why exactly, 2017-10-21
135: WBA Super: Juan Manuel Marquez => Marquez moved up in weight, 2010-11-27
140: WBA Super: Terence Crawford => Crawford moved up in weight, 2017-08-19
147: WBA Super: Keith Thurman, WBA: Lucas Matthysse
154: WBA Super: Erislandy Lara, WBA: Brian Castano
160: WBA Super: Gennady Golovkin, WBA: Ryota Murata
168: WBA Super: George Groves, WBA: Tyron Zeuge
175: WBA Super: Andre Ward => Andre Ward retired, 2017-06-17
200: WBA Super: Murat Gassiev => Lebedev Super champ in recess, Gassiev upgraded to Super champ, Goulamirian Vs Merhy for the WBA title
Heavyweight: WBA Super: Anthony Joshua, WBA: Manuel Charr
http://www.espn.com/blog/dan-rafael/post/_/id/15044/wba-working-to-reduce-number-of-titles
Thats the first article I can find about WBAs intention to get rid of the multiple titles, dated Jan 20 2016.
Since then they got rid of the
105, 122, 130, 140, 175,
even though 140 was due to crawford moving up and 175 due to ward retiring.
First of all, just because they're adding some titles doesn't mean they aren't eliminating others.
Oquendo is owed, by court order, a shot at the WBA world heavyweight title. Not the super title. They had to crown a world champion in order to fulfill their obligation to Oquendo. Even if Oquendo was willing to fight for the super title instead, fans would have been outraged if AJ had been ordered to fight Oquendo.
Tewa Kiram had been owed a title shot for a very long time and with Thurman injured, they crowned a world champion rather than an interim champion. This is because they're trying to first get rid of all of the interim titles, and then after that, get rid of all of the super titles. They are not getting rid of the world title. The title Charr has is the title that will remain.
There are a million valid reason to criticize the WBA. They should be criticized for adding some of these titles. That doesn't justify lying though and saying they aren't getting rid of anything. That's a lie. Look at the number of champions now. Look at the number of champions two years ago. It's a world of difference.
why adding belts, when you want to get rid of them? the Oquendo/Charr and Matthysse/Kiram situation was understandable somewhat.
But why creating a new wba super title for melindo vs taguchi?
And if they declare lebedev the champ in recess, why not just get rid of the super title and make him the mandatory to the wba?
Did they have to "upgrade" the dorticos vs gassiev winner to super champ?
Now we have two garbage fights between below average fighters fighting for the wba title again.
And when was the last time they got rid of a wba super title? Last I believe was Kovalev vs Ward, but that was more due to luck, because ward retired after his win.
If the winner of barrera vs Bivol is going to unify against Kovalev and they upgrade the winner to super champ again, they wont ever get rid of all the super titles.
They added a second champion at heavyweight and welterweight in the last 3 months.
First of all, just because they're adding some titles doesn't mean they aren't eliminating others.
Oquendo is owed, by court order, a shot at the WBA world heavyweight title. Not the super title. They had to crown a world champion in order to fulfill their obligation to Oquendo. Even if Oquendo was willing to fight for the super title instead, fans would have been outraged if AJ had been ordered to fight Oquendo.
Tewa Kiram had been owed a title shot for a very long time and with Thurman injured, they crowned a world champion rather than an interim champion. This is because they're trying to first get rid of all of the interim titles, and then after that, get rid of all of the super titles. They are not getting rid of the world title. The title Charr has is the title that will remain.
They are adding a second champion at cruiserweight and light flyweight in the next month. They are rumored to be adding a second champion at super featherweight the month after that. They aren't getting rid of anything.
There are a million valid reason to criticize the WBA. They should be criticized for adding some of these titles. That doesn't justify lying though and saying they aren't getting rid of anything. That's a lie. Look at the number of champions now. Look at the number of champions two years ago. It's a world of difference.
You're literally arguing semantics.
no im not. im explaining why boxrec has him listed as wba world champion. because he's wba world champion. he holds the title held by ali, frazier, foreman, tyson, holyfield, lewis, etc.
They're not eliminating the titles.
yes they are. theyre down to one champion in many divisions. when they get down to one champion, they dont get rid of the world championship, they get rid of the super title. which is a different belt design.
As a big Joshua fan, Charr is the only guy in the division that scares me. AJ wipes the floor with all other HW's, but Diamond Boy makes me nervous. Any man that can come back from hip replacements, being KO'd by a CW and taking a gunshot at point blank range and still find a way to become a world champ is one bad mother****er! Diamond Boy gonna wipe the damn floor with the Big O then take care of his unfinished business against Fury and Haye, hopefully he retires after that so Joshua never has to fight him.
WBA said so many times they’re getting rid of it but keep making fake titles like the one Lucas just won
Apparently Gervonta Davis will be fighting for a previously eliminated WBA title next aswell. Think if theres sanctioning fees to be had theyll gladly go back on their word.
Why have BoxRec got Charr as the WBA Champ when he’s only got the ‘regular’ title and Joshua’s the ‘Super’ (real) champion..
there's no such thing as a regular title.
charr is wba world champion. joshua's super title is the one that will eventually be eliminated.
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