Has all the tickets been sold for WILDER VS ORTIZ??

Ffs how many more posts from that WBA wbo - three musketeers - do we have to put up with. Hard to even bother reading - response to any opinion is either "Your lying" or "I've worked for all of the belts" or "I get paid to talk this BS or I wouldn't be here" Well last boring. 95% of people know that if you negiotiate you start with an amount higher than you expect, but also one that is realistic. If I'm at work and make an offer than is clearly unachievable or unrealistic to the other party they won't even bother to negiotiate. It is quite obvious wilder is Currently in his situation with his 50/50 offers. He may have valid reasons, wanting to build his name up further etc, or he may simply not be willing to take the challenge on. But however you look at it while it's 50/50 or nothing; most people will continue looking at his resume for backing up his numbers - and as it stands that isn't exactly a great backup! So he can't call your lies? What a word we live, and what a ego you have

Yes, I "ducked" the question. Firstly the mandatory would give him 20% with some organisations. I don't know of Hearn actually offering that deal - I've seen no facts which suggest that. Only facts I know other than words being thrown around is that parker started at wanting 40% and negiotiated to end up where we did with around 1/3 split. Parker , much alike wilder, would earn his biggest pay day by being paid just a mandatory, so to be quite honest Hearn could offer what he likes in some respects. I'm sure some other challengers have received lower percentages - but I obviously don't know agreed splits for majority of the fights so it's only assumption.

My experience in negiotiaion here is frankly irrelevant. No, it's very relevant, because you're claiming to know how multimillion dollar negotiations work, even though you clearly would have no way of knowing that. 95% of people would follow that rule book for those reasons I mentioned in my previous post. Those 95% of people have never been involved in multimillion dollar negotiations, let alone in professional fighting, and would honestly have no ****ing idea what they're talking about. Yourself included. Which is why you ducked the following questions: Was it realistic when Hearn offered Parker 80/20 for a unification between two undefeated fighters? Even though a mandatory challenger is entitled to 25% or 30% depending on the organization?

How do you know that? What is your level of experience in negotiating? My experience in negiotiaion here is frankly irrelevant. I could explain to you sort of role I have but it's really not important to the conversation. It's actually fairly common sense, and as I said 95% of people would follow that rule book for those reasons I mentioned in my previous post. And no Before you start saying "your lying" - no I don't want to bet $50k on your fantasy multi million dollar scheme you apparently negiotiate. Based on your comments on this forum I doubt you would know how to sell a burger outside wembley stadium to be quite honest.

95% of people know that if you negiotiate you start with an amount higher than you expect, but also one that is realistic. How do you know that? What is your level of experience in negotiating? Are you just assuming that, or is that what you've learned during your involvement in lucrative negotiations? Was it realistic when Hearn offered Parker 80/20 for a unification between two undefeated fighters? Even though a mandatory challenger is entitled to 25% or 30% depending on the organization?

Ffs how many more posts from that WBA wbo - three musketeers - do we have to put up with. Hard to even bother reading - response to any opinion is either "Your lying" or "I've worked for all of the belts" or "I get paid to talk this BS or I wouldn't be here" Well last boring. 95% of people know that if you negiotiate you start with an amount higher than you expect, but also one that is realistic. If I'm at work and make an offer than is clearly unachievable or unrealistic to the other party they won't even bother to negiotiate. It is quite obvious wilder is Currently in his situation with his 50/50 offers. He may have valid reasons, wanting to build his name up further etc, or he may simply not be willing to take the challenge on. But however you look at it while it's 50/50 or nothing; most people will continue looking at his resume for backing up his numbers - and as it stands that isn't exactly a great backup!

You said the bet was to compensate you revealing you real life identity. You original account doesn't reveal that. Why won't you post it? #1 - Because it's been posted at least a dozen times. #2 - Because I'm not going to play along with you changing the subject. I am not your monkey and I am under no obligation to dance for you. You claim I'm a liar. I asked you if you want to bet on whether I'm a liar. Clearly you don't want to bet. Clearly you don't really believe I'm a liar. You're just a teenager playing tough guy on the internet. Which is fine. Have fun. But don't think you're fooling anybody.

No reason not to post your original account unless that original account will expose you. Game, Set, Match. So if it's game set match, you should be VERY eager to accept my offer. You've got me cornered right? You're definitely correct right? So let me pay you. Let's do it. What's the problem?

Wilder couldnt sell bleach to Michael Jackson

Am actually surprised that there are tickets left, honestly I would have brought one if I was American or in America. Is anyone on boxingscene going to this fight or supporting this fight by attending?

Knew it. You're full of ****. Your original account will expose you as being full of ****, which is why you are ducking posting it. Game, Set, Match. But if you really believed I was full of ****, you'd be eager to bet on whether I'm full of ****. The fact that you refuse to bet on whether I'm full of **** shows you don't actually believe it that strongly. You're puffing. Trying to look tough. But not man enough to actually put money down on your position. So why should we take you seriously when you don't take yourself seriously?

What's your original account then? Post on it to prove it's you too. I've got a feeling you'll duck that too. Not ducking anything. Just refusing to let you change the subject. You called me a liar. I asked you to put your money where your mouth is. Are you or are you not willing to stand behind your claim? There's no need for any more fighting. No need for any more name calling. And certainly no need for any more emojis. I'm calling your bluff. Let's go all in and show our cards. What are you so afraid of? Let's find out who is really behind my screen and your screen. Let's reward whoever is telling the truth with a lot of money. What's the problem? Why are you so scared suddenly?

Why do i care? Because you're using you fake "knowledge" as proof you're correct you retard. Why are you name calling? What is there to even fight about? Let's bet and find out who is telling the truth. One of us is lying. Let's find out who. What happened to 3 of you running the account too? People on this site for some reason were outraged by the idea of three people sharing an account. So we now pretend to be one person to avoid unnecessary commotion. For the record, it is "WBC" from the group that is claiming to have been involved in 7 figure negotiations (which really isn't a big deal, I'm not claiming to be important in boxing at all, plenty of people have been involved in 7 figure negotiations, it's nothing unique or anything to be proud of). How about you just show us your original account that you confirmed you have. Post on that one and we'll see if you ever mentioned being in the business on that account. I've admitted what my original account was at least a dozen times now. It's not a secret. It's interesting though that you keep trying to change the subject. Maybe you are incredibly wealthy and $50,000 isn't worth your time? If that's the case, I sincerely apologize. I realize it's the internet and you never know who is on the other side of the screen. On the off chance that you're a trust fund baby or something or created a successful app and are a millionaire many times over, I am willing to increase the bet to $250,000, but I would need 72 hours to transfer some funds before I could begin the escrow process.

Prove it then. Why you asking for ridiculous stipulations? There's nothing ridiculous about it. You're asking me to give up my anonymity. You've asking me to betray business associates. You need to make it worth my while. And why do you even care? If you're so convinced I'm full of ****, why does it matter the reason? You get $50,000 for doing absolutely nothing. That's why it's so obvious that you don't believe what you're saying. Your actions and your words are incompatible.

I don't have to prove anything. I'm not the one claiming to be something i'm not. But you are the one that's lying. Because every single thing I've said in this thread is true and I can prove it. You've repeatedly lied in this thread and because you're a coward, you won't stand behind the things you've said. Our actions right now are easily showing to the community which one of us is telling the truth. Here I am, willing to back up everything I've said, if you're willing to do the same, and instead of manning up, you're hiding behind emojis like the bratty child we both know you really are. Put your money where your mouth is. Otherwise, you're just a cliche internet troll. All talk. No action.

what a pathetic attempt to deflect from you making claims you can't back up. If I can't back them up, you get $50,000. So clearly you don't actually believe I can't back them up. Because if you did, you'd be jumping at my offer. It's easy to hide behind a computer and pretend to be tough. Or in your case, pretend to have any idea how business is conducted in the world of combat sports. But here I am, asking for us to prove ourselves in real life and you are refusing. So what does that say about you?

A lying trolling is offering to pay me money? What a great deal. :rofl: It's very simple. We each put $50,000 in escrow and if I don't supply proof of at least two 7 figure deals I helped negotiate, the funds are released to you. If I supply the proof, the funds are released to me. If you are really so convinced that I'm lying, you should be quickly jumping at this opportunity. This is a dream come true for you. Not only do you get to prove that I'm lying, you also make a lot of money. Yet, you're clearly apprehensive. So is it possible you don't actually believe all of the things that you write? Is it possible that I've called your bluff and now you don't know what to do?

That's not how it works in the real world pal. The one making the initial claim need to provide supporting evidence. Woah woah woah. I am offering to pay you a LOT of money if you're telling the truth about me never having been involved in lucrative negotiations. I am offering to pay you a LOT of money if you're telling the truth about me never having worked in boxing. I am offering to pay you a LOT of money if you are right about all of these things you claim to be so certain of. So if you're so certain, why aren't you jumping at the chance to find out who is right? We go all in. We show our cards. This should be a dream come true for you. According to you I am this giant loser pretending to be something I'm not. You posture on this site like you are 100% convinced of this. But suddenly, when asked to put your money where your mouth is, you're full of excuses? So weird.

You want me to pay you to back up your claims? No. I want you to back up YOUR claims. Your claim is that I'm lying. I say we bet and find out who is telling the truth. If you really believe what you're saying, you should be very very eager to take my money. What backwards world do you live in? You can claim to be whatever you want on the net Very true. So let's place a large wager and find out who is telling the truth. If you're so convinced that I'm lying, you should be very eager to accept this offer. Ultimatums are a sign that it's the final offer. How would you know? Everyone knows this. Who is everyone? Wilder didn't want the fight. You're lying. Hearn didn't want the fight. Yet. We'll see if he wants it in the future. Wilder wanted it ASAP. Hearn correctly believed that it would be a poor business decision for AJ to rush into the most dangerous fight, especially when the most dangerous fight would be worth so much more with another 6-12 months of build.

No you haven't. Can be very easily proven if you make it worth my while. Put your money where your mouth is and I'll be happy to provide proof of countless 7 figure deals I've negotiated over the years. Wilder priced himself out with a ridiculous ultimatum. False. You've been brainwashed into believing that by your favorite fighter's promoter so they can stall without their fans turning on them. The truth is that Hearn didn't want the fight yet, because the fight will be worth so much more later. Haymon & Finkel agreed the fight would be worth so much more later, so they agreed to revisit the fight later. Over and over and over you are dead wrong, but absolutely convinced you are right even though you admittedly have no way of knowing what's true. That's all their is to it. Ultimatums are a sign that that's you final offer and aren't going to budge. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA YOU'RE SO ****ING WRONG I CAN'T EVEN BELIEVE YOU'RE THIS STUPID. Seriously. I try to hard not to call you stupid, but you just make it absolutely impossible. Nobody believes 50/50 is Wilder's final offer except for you and other AJ fanboys being manipulated by Hearn. Stop it. Just stop it. Enjoy being a fan and stop pretending you know a single ****ing thing about business. You're humiliating yourself at this point. Should i pretend to be an expert and have negotiated multimillion dollar deals like you are pretending.? If you really believe I'm pretending, you should be very eager to place a large wager on it. I beg of you. Put your money where your mouth is. You'll find out exactly who I am. You'll find out exactly who my friends are. You'll find out exactly who I've worked for. I can make you a very wealthy man if you are right. So if you truly believe what you're saying, let's go all in and show our cards.