Is Groves’ resurgence a boost to Froch’s legacy?

168lb dust up+ reflection on Froch: I was just thinking earlier that what a twist of fate it’s been that DeGale went from downplaying George groves in some of his post fight interviews, then goes ahead and loses and looks lackluster where he has to go back to the drawing board. Meanwhile Eubank Jr. who was favored in his groves’ fight loses decisively. This takes me back to the Groves vs. Froch fights. I felt groves was doing well in the 1st fight, stoppage was extremely premature although froch came on strong. Froch wins decisively and emphatically in the rematch. So now my main point and question: Although I don’t put much into H2H (although I like the concept of comparing skills and traits of different fighters) who wins vs. who in different eras, I do believe a win over a fighter who goes on to do great things can boost one’s legacy. In this case, do you feel Froch’s wins over groves look better and better? Groves seeming to be the UK heir apparent of 168 with the dust settling and finding his stride, does this indirectly boost Froch’s legacy, stock, and value? I personally feel like it does.

Comments (12)

sunny31

To be honest I knew Groves would come back and do well, the only question was whether he was damaged goods. His loss to Jack was a close fight and if you look at his 3 losses they came against two of the most underrated fighters in recent years. Froch is the 2nd best 168lber of his generation and the guy that was above him was special. Groves is starting to put together a nice little resume lets see how far he gets.

8y ago

dan_cov

With Kessler, Ward, Froch moving on\retiring the division is awful, the new era didn't come close to filling the void they left behind the one decent fighter that emerged was Jack who cleaned up and moved on leaving the duds to battle it out. Groves has never been the best even in any era. If he goes on and beats Smith and say Zurdo then it changes but frankly I feel he losses to both as he always has when he's fought a truly top SMW and not a hyped up MW. He's a good fighter still but that's where it ends. BJS beat Eubank too at his best weight nobody hypes that win why is it so great Groves won? People are going on like its some great career defining win that boosts everyones legacy or something, I think its people trying to justify the hype tbh. Guy was the U.K Jeff Lacy equivalent.

8y ago

dan_cov

Hes declined since froch Hes jus fought the easier guys at 168 and lost to the better guys like jack. Eubank wasnt even a 168 until recently This, spot on. Groves is just in the right place at the right time for now at least with Jack going to lhw.

8y ago

jas

Hes declined since froch Hes jus fought the easier guys at 168 and lost to the better guys like jack. Eubank wasnt even a 168 until recently

8y ago

alexguiness

I think it says more about the current generation. Frock was a awkward but entertaining fighter, and other than for ward who was clearly technically superb - he would have been the best In the division. Groves got fairly lucky with a early knockdown in the first fight and frock came back - whether you agreed with the stoppage or not - he ended in control and would likely have knocked groves out in many of opinions before the 12th bell. The second fight he was a class above and eventually got the knock out punch we all remember. Groves is maybe the best of the current list? But he's hardly Got the best record - it says it all about the others really doesn't it. You dont knock Froch over with luck.

8y ago

Kezzer

8y ago

dan_cov

I don't think so. Who has he beaten? A load of middleweights not even ranked in the top 10 vast majority being domestic level.

8y ago

b00g13man

Most definitely.

8y ago

Shrap

Nah. SMW is weak as hell at the moment. Froch has always been an obviously limited boxer and beating Groves certainly won't change that.

8y ago

bluebeam

it definitely makes froch resume look even better if groves wins the 168 tournament

8y ago

Sparked_26

yeah it does. putting the win closer to the Kessler win

8y ago

SonnyboyReturns

Groves embarrassing a bum over the weekend does nothing for Froch's legacy. If Groves avenged his loss to Jack it would boost Froch's win over groves. I say win because the first fight was a robbery so doesn't count. If Groves then went on to unify it make Froch's win look even better. But some could still argue that Groves is a better fighter now then when Froch beat him and this version of Groves would beat Froch if he were to go back in time. I'm not saying I necessarily agree but you could make that argument.

8y ago