Groves arguably beats anyone at 160

lmao so when they weigh the same suddenly they're the same size. height, reach, the fact that Alvarez had 0 wins over an active MW is thrown out the window. ggg looked like he was wearing a damn backpack with the amount of muscle his back carried and had around 3" in height on little Alvarez. There is a smaller size disparity between GSG and ggg than there is ggg and Canelo, facts. I don't get it, isn't 168 a dead division? Height and reach divisions don't exist. Weight divisions do! So yes, if both weigh the same, then they are the same size. Canelo Alvarez became big enough in size as he became older in age to make the middleweight division. That's all that matters! Your speculative theory is irrelevant!

LHW>Cruiser, I've said it before. Vlasov/Bellew weren't **** at LHW either, but they are at cruiser. RJJ couldn't go 5 with the punchers at LHW but he could at cruiser. Glowacki just scraped past a 6 win fighter built ike a LHW, what more do you want for examples? Miranda doesn't possess any sort of style that stands out, he's a basic brawler, as basic as they come, there are 20+ guys at LHW at 168 flat out better than him. If Light heavyweights > cruiser weights. Why does the rule of boxing prevent boxers from both weight divisions competing against each other? In those examples, those boxers move up to cruiser weight and they no longer remain a light heavyweight after they move up. Therefore, how is that evidence of light heavyweight > cruiser weight? If anything, it's evidence of those boxers being able to compete better because they get to compete at their own weight division without draining themselves. That's a more plausible explanation than light heavyweight > cruiser weight which is totally baseless!

When GGG and Canelo Alvarez met in the ring for their bout, they were the same size, period! That's all that matters! lmao so when they weigh the same suddenly they're the same size. height, reach, the fact that Alvarez had 0 wins over an active MW is thrown out the window. ggg looked like he was wearing a damn backpack with the amount of muscle his back carried and had around 3" in height on little Alvarez. There is a smaller size disparity between GSG and ggg than there is ggg and Canelo, facts. I don't get it, isn't 168 a dead division?

Oh now 'styles make fights'. But when it comes to the cruiser weight division where Edison Miranda goes 12 rounds with one of the top cruiser weights in Dorticos but was stopped in the light heavyweight division before. Somehow that 'style makes fight' theory goes out of the window, right? You're full of double standards / multiple standards! LHW>Cruiser, I've said it before. Vlasov/Bellew weren't **** at LHW either, but they are at cruiser. RJJ couldn't go 5 with the punchers at LHW but he could at cruiser. Glowacki just scraped past a 6 win fighter built ike a LHW, what more do you want for examples? Miranda doesn't possess any sort of style that stands out, he's a basic brawler, as basic as they come, there are 20+ guys at LHW at 168 flat out better than him.

So now you're pretending 99% of Canelo's fights didn't occur below 160lbs? Canelo is much smaller compared to ggg than ggg is to GSG. Guys like Vlasov, Bellew can move up 20lbs+ but a P4P fighter like ggg can't move up 8 even when he says he can. When GGG and Canelo Alvarez met in the ring for their bout, they were the same size, period! That's all that matters! And again, I don't care about pound for pound rankings. Most of those boxers are draining themselves. That's why they can move up to a weight division that they are more comfortable and natural in. And boxers grow bigger in size as they grow older up to certain age.

I don't care about pound for pound lists anyway! Totally subjective! But if a bout is a mismatch in terms of 'SIZE' (which was your own initial point), then why should such a bout take place in the first place? Shouldn't boxing bouts be decided on skills with two guys the same size facing off against each other? Isn't that what pound for pound rankings are based on? So now you're pretending 99% of Canelo's fights didn't occur below 160lbs? Canelo is much smaller compared to ggg than ggg is to GSG. Guys like Vlasov, Bellew can move up 20lbs+ but a P4P fighter like ggg can't move up 8 even when he says he can.

The g tards resorting to pretending fighters don't move up in weight now. Alvarez, Charlo, Andrade literally moved up in weight, but guys like ggg are completely incapable of moving up to a division they say is dead lmao.

Canelo bodybags him. he didn't look that impressive. defense is trash. dont see it. and making 160 would probably make him perform worse. Canelo couldn't even stop Chavez Jr. he doesn't have the power to hurt Groves. Stylistically a complete nightmare, Groves boxes from range, pumps out his jab, high work rate, you need to pressure Groves and even that's hard to do as he has the most active jab in boxing. Eubank could barely touch Groves last night, far from a garbage defense, ggg's defense is worse. Can you imagine Groves' face getting busted up by a little 147lber like Brook? What a joke.

What? Didn't ggg say anybody from 168? This is a guy on the P4P list and he can't even move up just 1 division, a division they say is dead? I don't care about pound for pound lists anyway! Totally subjective! But if a bout is a mismatch in terms of 'SIZE' (which was your own initial point), then why should such a bout take place in the first place? Shouldn't boxing bouts be decided on skills with two guys the same size facing off against each other? Isn't that what pound for pound rankings are based on?

Murray=Range fighter Groves=Range fighter Styles makes fights, it's simple. I can't help you, your logic is all over the place. Oh now 'styles make fights'. But when it comes to the cruiser weight division where Edison Miranda goes 12 rounds with one of the top cruiser weights in Dorticos but was stopped in the light heavyweight division before. Somehow that 'style makes fight' theory goes out of the window, right? You're full of double standards / multiple standards!

Errol Spence could beat everybody at 140, Beterbiev could beat everybody at 168, Golovkin could beat everybody at 154, there's a reason for why you have weightclasses. Golovkin couldn't even beat Alvarez. Charlo, Andrade, Alvarez are literally all from different weight classes. There are multiple examples of fighters like Bellew/Vlasov moving up 20lbs+ to cruiser and becoming top 5 fighters. Loma, Garcia, Crawford, Pac, Mayweather, Ward, etc. moving up in weight.

His size, power, speed, activity, it'd be too much for most guys in the division as it was for Eubank/Murray. I think Benavidez & Zurdo would also arguably beat anybody at 160, I mean with their size, huge advantage. Even a guy like Brahmer would pose a serious threat to anybody. The division is not as bad as people make it out to be. Truax is the weak link after beating a shot Degale (Jack literally beat the teeth out of him), and I believe he'll be replaced soon. Groves is already struggling to make 168, no way he can get to 160!

First you wrtite this: Then you write this: You are so full of contradictions that it's almost laughable now! What? Didn't ggg say anybody from 168? This is a guy on the P4P list and he can't even move up just 1 division, a division they say is dead?

That poster seemingly has an agenda and they try to convince themselves of nonsensical notions. Even things that are blatantly and evidently false! Yea man exactly.. he seems to do this consistently, same thing different situations. Definitely trying to push some agenda

Let's see: Gennady Golovkin TKO 11 Martin Murray in a one sided blow out George Groves UD older, declining Martin Murray in a close, competitive bout. The most powerful puncher at middleweight in Golovkin destroys Martin Murray by stoppage but one of the most powerful punchers at 168 in George Groves fails to stop Martin Murray. Of course, it's just one example and I prefer not to base my conclusion on one or two bouts. Gennady Golovkin and Daniel Jacobs arguably beat George Groves in my opinion! Murray=Range fighter Groves=Range fighter Styles makes fights, it's simple. I can't help you, your logic is all over the place.

His size, power, speed, activity, it'd be too much for most guys in the division as it was for Eubank/Murray. I think Benavidez & Zurdo would also arguably beat anybody at 160, I mean with their size, huge advantage. Even a guy like Brahmer would pose a serious threat to anybody. The division is not as bad as people make it out to be. Truax is the weak link after beating a shot Degale (Jack literally beat the teeth out of him), and I believe he'll be replaced soon. he wont even beat the scale at 160... he fights at 168 for a reason...

Every person you named would literally have to die to get down to 160 so what's the point? I think the top lhw bully the top smw , cruiserweights would beat up and bully the lhw, and so on. This means nothing That poster seemingly has an agenda and they try to convince themselves of nonsensical notions. Even things that are blatantly and evidently false!

Alvarez, Charlo, and Andrade are all from lower weight classes and capable of beating anybody at 160. How can a guy on the P4P list not even be capable of moving up a single division, a mere 8lbs north in a division they say is garbage? First you wrtite this: His size, power, speed, activity, it'd be too much for most guys in the division as it was for Eubank/Murray. Then you write this: How can a guy on the P4P list not even be capable of moving up a single division, a mere 8lbs north in a division they say is garbage? You are so full of contradictions that it's almost laughable now!

Let's see: Gennady Golovkin TKO 11 Martin Murray in a one sided blow out George Groves UD older, declining Martin Murray in a close, competitive bout. The most powerful puncher at middleweight in Golovkin destroys Martin Murray by stoppage but one of the most powerful punchers at 168 in George Groves fails to stop Martin Murray. Of course, it's just one example and I prefer not to base my conclusion on one or two bouts. Gennady Golovkin and Daniel Jacobs arguably beat George Groves in my opinion!

Canelo bodybags him. he didn't look that impressive. defense is trash. dont see it. and making 160 would probably make him perform worse.