How good is Floyd Snr as a trainer?

Floyd sr is one of the best, if not the best trainer in the world today. what he has done speaks for itself. people trying to take away credit for his sons achievments are just silly to me. yes, Floyd was very talented. but you still need someone to harness that talent. besides, nobody is born with skills and Floyd jr's skills are his his greatest assets. in addition to his mind, which i think he also got in part from his father bringing him up the way he did (for better and for worse). Chad Dawson was at his best with Floyd sr, DLH credits him as the best trainer he has ever had and DLH worked with a bunch of great trainers. the thing about sr is he has a very, let's call it special personality that doesnt blend well with everyone. he seems to have mellowed out a bit in recent years though. but for a long time that was an issue, i know Chad left him because he didnt like the way Floyd sr would speak to him, saying he would call him a retard and stuff like that (lol). but the job he did before that speaks for itself. as does the work with jr and DLH. he really improved DLHs defense and his right hand without taking away what made him good in the first place. whatever someone wrote about him teaching everyone the shoulder roll and changing their style is simply not true. he adds to their style, obviously from his perspective of how someone should fight. but i think he views things quite right. only thing he forces on people is a good jab, defense, good foot positioning, patience and an emphasis on speed. not necessarily over power but rather to set it up. common sense basics in other words. This right here. In spite of Foreman spending the whole fight b!tching about Oscar needing to go back to his ‘old style’, those hard and accurate right hands ODLH threw against Vargas eventually turned that fight around (and set up that left hook) And that, along with the much better upper body movement, was all Mayweather Sr. IMO, ODLH’s most complete performance. And people forget how good Dawson looked under him.

how good is floyd sr as a trainer?? well, let the video speaks for itself. even after knowing what limited pacman is gon do, his fighter still got caught with that very same move that they were making fun of the pacman.. in my opinion, sr is a better comedian than he is a trainer. :rofl: Floyd had hatton for his fight vs paulie and he outboxed paulie not just out muscled him. Agree with the others that he tries to change fighter's style too much. Vs Pacman, hatton was not listening, Sr tried to get him to "move his damn head" but hatton just kept coming in straight forward. Either under pressure or getting rocked, hatton reverted to what he knows and didnt try being more defensive.

Floyd sr is one of the best, if not the best trainer in the world today. what he has done speaks for itself. people trying to take away credit for his sons achievments are just silly to me. yes, Floyd was very talented. but you still need someone to harness that talent. besides, nobody is born with skills and Floyd jr's skills are his his greatest assets. in addition to his mind, which i think he also got in part from his father bringing him up the way he did (for better and for worse). Chad Dawson was at his best with Floyd sr, DLH credits him as the best trainer he has ever had and DLH worked with a bunch of great trainers. the thing about sr is he has a very, let's call it special personality that doesnt blend well with everyone. he seems to have mellowed out a bit in recent years though. but for a long time that was an issue, i know Chad left him because he didnt like the way Floyd sr would speak to him, saying he would call him a retard and stuff like that (lol). but the job he did before that speaks for itself. as does the work with jr and DLH. he really improved DLHs defense and his right hand without taking away what made him good in the first place. whatever someone wrote about him teaching everyone the shoulder roll and changing their style is simply not true. he adds to their style, obviously from his perspective of how someone should fight. but i think he views things quite right. only thing he forces on people is a good jab, defense, good foot positioning, patience and an emphasis on speed. not necessarily over power but rather to set it up. common sense basics in other words.

I think that Roger was a better communicator than sr. I’ll leave it at that

Everytime I see a clip of Floyd Snr training, I see him trying to change guys style and force them to learn the shoulder roll. That should tell you all you need to know.

Oscar has said that Floyd Sr is the best trainer he ever had (along with the Professor Jesus Rivero who he credits with developing him as a whole person not just as a boxer.) That is a huge compliment given all the greats he got to work with such as Emmanuel Steward, Gil Clancy, and Freddie Roach. Chad Dawson was at his absolute best when he was with Sr in my opinion.

Hatton was too in his own ways for Sr. For some guys, it's better that they just stay with their flawed trainers and do the good things that they do well better, than switch.

He's the best trainer that's left.

He is very good only if you can understand what he is saying, which is a challenge in itself..

terrible!! he was a better drug dealer than he was a trainer.. Damn! :lol1: I think one could do worse but I think the best person Floyd has was Roger. Roger had some unique abilities that were underrated. For one thing Roger inspired confidance. If Floyd got shook now and then Roger knew how to talk him through it. Roger just had a way of understanding Floyd's emotional affect. Roger also gave good advice, like the best trainer do, instead of the ra ra bullspit. I think Floyd senior was flashy but not really that good as a trainer.

He is great with certain fighters but he requires total discipline almost like a military style. Few fighters can handle it. But considering how he raised TBE, his expectations must be pretty high and he have no patience for average ass fighters. Floyd Sr is a very good trainer.

I don’t think he’s that good it’s Floyds talent that carries him . He has not trained other fighters from scratch to win world titles. I think he made De Latoya worse after he went to Sr De la Hoya was not as aggressive he didn’t use his deadly hooks anymore