Wilder says Mike was the best of his era.. But this is a new era and Wilder believes no fighter in history can beat him.
His jab is too good, his hands speed, he's too long and his feet work is too good (LOL)
He has too much athletic-cism.. LOL bumsquad.
Tyson was NEVER knocked out by ONE punch .......that includes TWO hundred punches from LENNOX LEWIS who has a harder over hand right than Wilder . This also includes Razor Ruddock who had a left hook harder than any punches Wilder throws , this even includes Frank Bruno who is about on par with Wilder .
No one who seriously cant come to the conclusion that one of ,if not the best defensive ,best counter puncers of all time who had equal power in both hands wont win this fight against a very poor balanced ,style that would be picked apart EASILY here would have to be questioned how long they followed boxing !
Theres literally no way Wilder wins this fight , he doesnt clinch , he leaves himself wide open for counter shots, he has trouble adjusting to jabs coming his way and prime Tyson was never out jabbed in an era of long jabbers , he doesnt move fluidly in circles bc his legs are too far apart so he stops and goes vs a master ring cutter that closes distance would result in a short fight if Tyson became aggressive ......etc .....etc !
Wilder CAN beat alot of guys potentially ....
M.Tyson is NOT one of them, not one credible person can tell me otherwise !
Wilder landed 140 FLUSH shots on Duhaupas to the head in 11 rnds ......
How many FLUSH shots do you REALLY think Tyson is going to get hit with while seeing Wilders right hand from miles away before Tyson starches him ? Come on on now ! lol
Really? Then how the heck Buster Douglas beat him and knocked him out? I have a feeling this is less about Mike Tyson and more about Wilder.
This one?
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=772309
didn't know it was a longer youtube video now lol. I just saw Mike's upload on IG as I was leaving work. I definitely had a laugh at Mike though, he really seems like someone I'd love to sit down and have a cranberry juice with lol (we are both alcoholics)
I love that today Tyson Fury put on Instagram a video of him saying he couldn't knock Mike Tyson out, and Mike who has been silent through all of this immediately made a video saying "you should be more confident in your abilities, Anything can happen, I got knocked out by Buster Douglas"
God I love Mike.
This one?
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=772309
I love that today Tyson Fury put on Instagram a video of him saying he couldn't knock Mike Tyson out, and Mike who has been silent through all of this immediately made a video saying "you should be more confident in your abilities, Anything can happen, I got knocked out by Buster Douglas"
God I love Mike.
I assure you the guys Tyson fought were much better than Wilders opposition .
You new age fans really have to brush up on you boxing IQ with whats BLATENLY hearsay and outlandish to whats an EDUCATED opinion .
I agree old school fighters get OUTLANDISHLY rated but anyone with an OUNCE of common sense would see Tyson would have literally DECIMATED Wilder within 3 rnds if he went all out on him with that stiff bad balance quirky style , would have been one of Tysons easiest fights .
Tyson was great at getting underneath and inside tall /long range fighters and Wilders abilities to keep guys out of his zone is poor ,think what Tyson would do to him a guy with actual skill and power to those 39 guys he fought so far..
The problem here isnt his opinion more than its continuous TALKING of what others CANT do when Wilder has done nothing himself . And those 80's guys everyone calls bums would have also been FAR challenging for Wilder .
Tyson probably wouldn't even have as many K.O 's with Wilders opposition bc they would have been so afraid of him ,at least 3 would have had held on for dear life and try and survive and probably make it to the 10th /12th rnds .
Wilders opposition is not afraid of him ,they just stand in front of him far too long which eventually leads to a K.O .
With Tyson there was no where to run and hide..... IF he wanted a K.O he got one , and if all the guys who fought Wilder the same way with Tyson no one would have got past rnd 5 .
I would even bet Tyson of 2000 lands on Wilder and puts him out but thats a Tyson hes capable of defeating . .
Let's get this first out of the way. I'm in no way a new age fan. I've been following boxing for close to 40 years. Second, I'm one of the biggest Mike Tyson fans in the world. I damn near shed a tear when he lost to Buster Douglas.
I whole heartedly believe he could beat Wilder. But I've also said, Wilder hits hard enough where if he land one good shot on Tyson he could knock him out. Again, there's no way of either one us definitively knowing who would win because this fight will never happen.
Mike Tyson fought better competition but I could also see Wilder beating everyone Tyson beat. Not necessarily everyone he fought.
The obsession that these new school boxers have with Mike is worrying. AJ puts posters of him in his gym trying to copy his pose, Wilder can't stop talking about him and Parker has probably sat in his bed at night and stroked himself while thinking of Mike.
I don't know if Mike is still struggling financially but if he wants an alternative career he should really think about the adult entertainment history cause these f@990ts would make him filthy rich again.
Is Wilder trying to lose fans?
I'm a fan of Wilder, but he needs to quit saying nonsense like this. Like Lewis said to him, "focus on being the best of YOUR era."
Focus on beating up Joshua, actually Ortiz first. And forget about fantasy fights against yesteryear's legends.
Wilder is rightly frustrated by the lack of public support. I have been amazed by how much of a beating he takes from US boxing fans. That said, this type of emotionally driven outburst is the wrong type of thing to put his name on if he is bucking for more fan approval.
Wilder doesn't seem like a bad guy. He just seems to think that in the social network era, saying crazy stuff and anointing oneself is the path to riches. I suspect it will hurt him, but I'll still root for him despite his obvious stylistic and technical flaws.
I agree with you here, I don’t really mind boxers talking about beating an older fighter from a different generation, that’s normal. But when you ask the question “Who has he fought” then your resume better be stacked... Unfortunately for Wilder for the moment his resume is a joke after 9 odd years.
I just see this as him using Tyson name to further hence his name, just like he has seen his name propelled after attaching his name to Anthony Joshua’s name.
I don't get it. If an old fighter says he can beat a fighter from today everyone agrees. If a fighter from today say they can beat an old retired fighter, it's blasphemy.
The ironic thing about these mythical match ups is we'll never know either way. Yet people get all up in arms or whole heartedly agree about the outcome.
I'm sure Mike Tyson could beat everyone Wilder beat. Guess what, I'm sure Wilder can beat everyone Mike Tyson beat.
if wilder loses to 175 year old ortiz with blood pressure problems.. man oh man those memes gonna be unforgettable. i hope he wins for his own good. memes are known to crush souls. im rooting for him.
Mike Tyson is a phony and a quitter, Deontay 'Bronze-Bomber' Wilder has fought with a broken hand and torn bicep in order to keep the WBC championship of the World and his dream of becoming undisputed alive, however Mike always looked for a way out when things got hard.
Mike Tyson, talked a bunch of sh*t long after getting KO by Douglas and also after coming out of prison for rape, yet fans praised him back then and even now despite the fact that he been exposed ages ago.
Mike Tyson's power is a MYTH, in his what? nineteen pro fight he went the distance with James Tillis? ( who had about eight losses some by KO ) but tha 'Bronze-Bomber' is on KO #38 ; Tyson ended up with 44 KOs yet Deontay is already there and still in his prime!
Blah blah ****ing blah.
This a whole new era.
Vitali had 41 KO in his career.
Imma pass this record in my prime.
They cain't stop the Bronze Bomber.
Trust me yall.... imma diffrent beast!
I'm pretty sure the 40 years old Larry Holmes that Tyson destroyed was not a worst fighter than Wilder. He went after that to beat Ray Mercer and fight a 12 good rounds versus a prime Holyfield, I'm not sure if Wilder could do that.
Wilder is rightly frustrated by the lack of public support. I have been amazed by how much of a beating he takes from US boxing fans. That said, this type of emotionally driven outburst is the wrong type of thing to put his name on if he is bucking for more fan approval.
Wilder doesn't seem like a bad guy. He just seems to think that in the social network era, saying crazy stuff and anointing oneself is the path to riches. I suspect it will hurt him, but I'll still root for him despite his obvious stylistic and technical flaws.