Last night's fight between Usyk and Breidis had great atmosphere. Full arena of Latvians supporting their home fighter, cheering...
You never see that in the USA, the Las Vegas crowd is totally boring, a bunch of rich people who just sit down quietly.
We need more big fights in Europe to make boxing look like working class sport.
vegas brings in all the revenue. that city is build for big fights and events similar. highest concentration of world class hotels in the english speaking world.
the high rollers will spend more at the tables and in the city than they do on the tickets to the fight.
there's also no state income tax. so if you make a million in vegas you'll bring home a hell of a lot more than you will fighting almost anywhere else.
Youre right like. As someone else pointed out: for Americans it's about money, for Brits it's about fans and loving the sport.
You said it yourself
Not when you break them up into separate and isolated Balkans. All those countries are so small that they are interdependent upon each other; Given the fact that geologically speaking Europe is the second smallest continent in the world in terms of comparison to area and size; Ranked just ahead of Australia in this order. Its just a tiny continent as compared to the U.S. That is not only a country but just so happens to be a global super power also.
How is that relevant to boxing attendance? The only thing that is relevant here is the population density which in certain areas of Europe is quite big. Then there's good transportation, tourism etc. Which is why attendances in sport events in Europe in general are huge. People are concentrated on a small area and travel and support their teams or their athletes. If a British fighter is fighting in Germany British fans will come over and so on.
Europe is more relevant than America when it comes to sports too. European sport events have more relevance globally.
Agreed.
One of the sports biggest problems is the obsession with Las Vegas. Guys should be fighting in their hometowns, making themselves a draw there first, instead of leaping to fight in front of 4,000 people at the MGM.
vegas brings in all the revenue. that city is build for big fights and events similar. highest concentration of world class hotels in the english speaking world.
the high rollers will spend more at the tables and in the city than they do on the tickets to the fight.
there's also no state income tax. so if you make a million in vegas you'll bring home a hell of a lot more than you will fighting almost anywhere else.
EU countries alone cover more than 500 million people. Western Europe in particular is very densely populated, especially Britain, Benelux, parts of Germany and northern Italy.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/5k40HlPC1ak/maxresdefault.jpgNot when you break them up into separate and isolated Balkans. All those countries are so small that they are interdependent upon each other; Given the fact that geologically speaking Europe is the second smallest continent in the world in terms of comparison to area and size; Ranked just ahead of Australia in this order. Its just a tiny continent as compared to the U.S. That is not only a country but just so happens to be a global super power also.
No. Going to a boxing match full of screaming men yelling for a fighter of their nation is boring. I go to watch the fight, drink and search for that buzzard that's willing to make some bad decisions. You know, that chick you have to wake up early to get her out the room so you can go back to sleep. I'll stick with murica. :alcoholic
you've clearly never been to a fight with an electric atmosphere ...either that or you have and your a sociopath
I would get excited too if I got only two good shows once a year, too bad their undercards are trash - how many times has Deontay Wilders free cards have outclassed Anthony Joshua's that fights on PPV? I can only remember Ryabynsky having one hell of a show in Russia way back....oh sorry, yeah the euros love to hold hands and swing, carry on.
No doubt about that man. Their populations are a lot smaller than the U.S. That is why more people attend them because in most cases, it's their only show in town.
Not really. USA has a lot of people but that's mostly because it's a one huge country. Europe as a whole has more people than the USA. EU countries alone cover more than 500 million people. Western Europe in particular is very densely populated, especially Britain, Benelux, parts of Germany and northern Italy.
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They don't build hometown followings for fighters in the US anymore. It's all about the casinos and the TV money.
Also in Europe nationalism comes into play more when guys fight international opposition for world titles. In the US that has never really been a thing expect in very rare circumstances, like Louis-Schmeling.
But mostly it's that followings aren't built from the ground up. Fighters are just parachuted into some random city where 1 in 1000 people might know who they are.
In the U.S. we have a great atmosphere for college football and basketball. Stadiums/arenas filled to the brim with young, energetic crowds.
Growing boxing in those towns with local attractions (like Terence Crawford in Omaha) would be great to see.
But Las Vegas money runs the sport here.
I was going to mention the Crawford/Indongo unification fight. The atmosphere for that one was awesome - as good as you will see anywhere in the UK or mainland Europe. The reason, of course, was that Crawford was fighting in his home town, in front of his own hardcore fan base.
If the US was the same size as the UK, most of those hardcore Crawford fans would probably be travelling to all his fights, knowing they were only going to be a few hours drive or train ride away from Omaha and could be back in their own homes by the end of the night.
Some of them will travel though, and other US fans in other cities who watched the fight on TV will have been excited by that atmosphere, remember who Crawford is and turn up to watch him if he fights in their part of the country. That's the way to get the ball rolling.
No doubt about that man. Their populations are a lot smaller than the U.S. That is why more people attend them because in most cases, it's their only show in town.
They don't build hometown followings for fighters in the US anymore. It's all about the casinos and the TV money.
Also in Europe nationalism comes into play more when guys fight international opposition for world titles. In the US that has never really been a thing expect in very rare circumstances, like Louis-Schmeling.
But mostly it's that followings aren't built from the ground up. Fighters are just parachuted into some random city where 1 in 1000 people might know who they are.
Nationalism is a powerful force in Europe because there are so many nations quite close to each other and almost everybody has been at war with everybody else at some point in the past.
I'm in the UK, and another powerful factor here is that Brits are very loyal to their home town/city and will passionately support boxers from their own turf against guys from other towns/cities.
This is the result of 200 years of football (soccer) town/city competition and rivalry, and means that domestic level British fighters can earn bigger purses and attract more fans and supporters than guys on the same level as them in the US. Other European countries are probably similar to the UK in this respect.
I agree, but it's because we have the highest cases of ADHD which effects viewership!
Most people here rather watch baseball, soccer or the superbowl and college bball and football than boxing!
It's a culture
Last night's fight between Usyk and Breidis had great atmosphere. Full arena of Latvians supporting their home fighter, cheering...
You never see that in the USA, the Las Vegas crowd is totally boring, a bunch of rich people who just sit down quietly.
We need more big fights in Europe to make boxing look like working class sport.
Is that why Marvin Hagler had beer bottles thrown at him in England?
In the U.S. we have a great atmosphere for college football and basketball. Stadiums/arenas filled to the brim with young, energetic crowds.
Growing boxing in those towns with local attractions (like Terence Crawford in Omaha) would be great to see.
But Las Vegas money runs the sport here.
Yes and no. They are certainly the most spirited. But, when Hatton and Khan fans were blowing those obnoxious air horns at fights I would hate to be the one sitting in front of them.
I’ve only been to the O2 over seas. It was a very animated crowd compared to LV. Atlantic City used to be a good place, back when Gatti was fighting, that era in general.
european fans are just more passionate and therefor exciting compared to us americans.. not to bring mma up, but when conor fights here, his fans are just as exciting to watch/hear as the fight itself. it certainly makes for a better viewing aspect thats for sure.
Last night's fight between Usyk and Breidis had great atmosphere. Full arena of Latvians supporting their home fighter, cheering...
You never see that in the USA, the Las Vegas crowd is totally boring, a bunch of rich people who just sit down quietly.
We need more big fights in Europe to make boxing look like working class sport.
I agree and have thought this from wlad fight in germany as well as the UK fights.
The latvia atmosphere is GREAT. I think the sport is more popular in Europe to be honest.
A fight in the U.S. to have that atmosphere has to be greatly anticipated mega fight in vegas.
No. Going to a boxing match full of screaming men yelling for a fighter of their nation is boring. I go to watch the fight, drink and search for that buzzard that's willing to make some bad decisions. You know, that chick you have to wake up early to get her out the room so you can go back to sleep. I'll stick with murica. :alcoholic