being humble or not can be just fighters playing a character. for how many years did ppl say manny was humble then turns out this mofo was cheating on his wife, paying hookers hush money and rolling with crooked politicians. then floyd plays the villain role and gets hated but he paid for the funeral of a fallen boxer. that's some humble sht to do. and in the aftermath of his fight with manny he is giving his opponent nonstop love and respect while manny refuses to return the favor.
this whole humble/brash sht is an illusion. we don't know these mofos behind the cameras. theres people that know mcgregor personally that say hes not really the way he portrays. but the sht works for him.
floyd portrays the nightlife and party life but you've never seen him out of shape, in drug rehab and he never takes an opponent lightly. isn't that humble?
de la hoya was marketed as the humble pretty boy all his career. but look at the sht he was into that was later exposed. promoters need guys to create an image that they can push. some fighters are willing to play along while others say fck all that and just focus on winning fights.
after the pacquiao/hatton fight someone from pacquiaos corner motions him to get on his knees and pray for the viewers. showing his whole image was fabricated. im not saying hes a horrible person but boxing is theater at the end of the day.
Great post. Boxing is entertainment and just like actors and singers, fighters play a character..
Mosley is also known as a good guy in Boxing who touches gloves after each round, dude looked like he wanted to blow pacquaio but then he cheated on his ex wife numerous times and got taken to the cleaners etc.
That is why i dont pay attention to their characters. I only care about how good they fight.
I prefer humble people in general because it's my personality as well. I'd imagine brash people would be more likely to enjoy brash fighters. Nothing wrong with it. I think for me I prefer a boxer who seems genuine over actors. Obviously you never know the real person but it is what it is. Something bad as hell about a guy like young Cotto who never even changed his expression and just hunted people down.
If you back up the talk I like it. That's why I love Naseem Hamed who most hate. His ring entrances were spectacular but he also delivered. Plus, at the end of fights he paid respect to opponents and made no excuses after losing to Barrera.
The only fighters I don't like who talk big arethose who can't take losses. Lem, BHop.
Because bragging your ass off is not cool. Confidence is good but Broner, Brook, Saunders and Khan type arrogant bragging is just annoying and it doesn't do a thing to help them win the fight. I prefer the more quiet but fearless boxers who let their fists do the talking when the first bell rings. Excessive pre fight bragging makes it seem like they are scared and trying to build themselves up.
A lot of it depends on the type of person you are. But by and large, I'll just say that people generally respect those who show respect, and arrogance or ****iness can be simplified to being disrespectful. I don't agree with that sentiment, but it is what it is.
Late night shows and comediac sitcoms rag on everybody though.
Ali was loved and In Living Color (highly repected in the black community) took it to Ali too in making fun of his condition. If someone did that today it might become a national incident. Comedy format in the 80's was open season on everything, very little filter.
"Highly respected in the black community"? I forget which prominent black actress said, "The Wayans brothers set the black community back 50 years."
I don't necessarily agree with their comment and I loved In Living Color, grew up on it, but you're not disproving my Mike Tyson comment with that one. He was most definitely more freak show than hero. That's not even debatable.
That's why he had the career resurrection. It was humanising the beast. Showing his tender side, his humor, his humanity. That's not the Mike Tyson of the 80's and 90's.
Every late night show and sit com did skits about his dichotomy of being a freakish beast with a squeaky voice and a lisp.
Late night shows and comediac sitcoms rag on everybody though.
Ali was loved and In Living Color (highly repected in the black community) took it to Ali too in making fun of his condition. If someone did that today it might become a national incident. Comedy format in the 80's was open season on everything, very little filter.
being humble or not can be just fighters playing a character. for how many years did ppl say manny was humble then turns out this mofo was cheating on his wife, paying hookers hush money and rolling with crooked politicians. then floyd plays the villain role and gets hated but he paid for the funeral of a fallen boxer. that's some humble sht to do. and in the aftermath of his fight with manny he is giving his opponent nonstop love and respect while manny refuses to return the favor.
this whole humble/brash sht is an illusion. we don't know these mofos behind the cameras. theres people that know mcgregor personally that say hes not really the way he portrays. but the sht works for him.
floyd portrays the nightlife and party life but you've never seen him out of shape, in drug rehab and he never takes an opponent lightly. isn't that humble?
de la hoya was marketed as the humble pretty boy all his career. but look at the sht he was into that was later exposed. promoters need guys to create an image that they can push. some fighters are willing to play along while others say fck all that and just focus on winning fights.
after the pacquiao/hatton fight someone from pacquiaos corner motions him to get on his knees and pray for the viewers. showing his whole image was fabricated. im not saying hes a horrible person but boxing is theater at the end of the day.
Who cares if they're humble or not.
A lot of people do. I see it quite a lot.
Literally Half the site are Floyd arse lickers.
I wasn't around at that time but I'm sure in the past Roy had a large fan base on this site.
I disagree about the Floyd thing. I've been here more than 10 years and watched the forums like a Petri dish.
In the beginning and middle to the Money Mayweather persona, Floyd was hated by all. A handful of people stood against many.
As time wore on and Pacquiao was exposed, Floyd ended up getting more and more fans. It's weird because if you look at Oscar's fame, he blew up INSTANTLY where as Floyd blew up late. Very different in comparison.
Jones was on another level, nobody did it like Roy and nobody could stop him. Destroyer of worlds and everybody tuned in for the next episode because the post-fight interview was always exciting.
Mike Tyson thought he was a god at one point and still managed to be the most popular human being on planet Earth.
You think he was loved by all? He wasn't. He was fascinating to people. But, he was treated like a freak show. Every late night show and sit com did skits about his dichotomy of being a freakish beast with a squeaky voice and a lisp. If you want to look at someone who was loved in that era, Bill Cosby (ironically) was adored and had a mega popular show about being the perfect dad.
We get it, you get off on ****iness. But, not everyone has those same tastes and you're trying to turn a personal taste issue into a right and wrong argument.
Can those of you that agree with this explain why you think it's cool to be humble in Boxing?
I actually don't think this is true, especially on this site. Literally Half the site are Floyd arse lickers.
I wasn't around at that time but I'm sure in the past Roy had a large fan base on this site.
And Roy was a ****y f*cker.
Wrong.
It takes extra mental strength to be composed and win under the pressure of hatred from jealous ordinary people.
Lol, you're confused. The fact that you made 4 posts in a row also indicates you're having trouble articulating a solid point. You're associating ****iness with jealousy. Both arrogant and humble fighters have to deal with jealous people. That has nothing to do with people who choose who act however they want when they are in a position to do so vs those who choose to be mannered for no other reason than it means something to them.
The hardest personal improvement I ever made in my life was not getting off the streets or starting my own business, it was choosing to become a kinder and more well behaved person, AFTER I was finally living comfortably and didn't have to kiss up to anyone. Insecure people are the ones who try to sell you on the idea that they are better than you. Those who are truly happy don't seem to get any thrill in that.
It's easier for the average person to relate to successful people who are humble. Even among friends, there will sometimes be a braggart in the group who can't help talking about their earnings, or their latest purchase. Most people will put up with that person, but few will actually like them.
I think the bold is accurate for most. I personally don't care if a boxer is nice
It's easier for the average person to relate to successful people who are humble. Even among friends, there will sometimes be a braggart in the group who can't help talking about their earnings, or their latest purchase. Most people will put up with that person, but few will actually like them.
It's the same reason why the sportspeople who spend their money as quick as they get it on flashy cars, clothes etc...will have plenty of hangers on when the money is rolling in, who will disappear as soon as it isn't.
more name calling...cool
Ok...I think your original post was ignorant and not well thought out, I have stated my reasons.
I was not attacking your opinion, I just don't agree with it on this occasion.
Better?
Because they hate people who have more then them, are more successful then them rubbing it in their faces
That's a very feminine way of thinking, I'm sure some guys feel that way but some people just prefer the alternative