Since Ali retired after the Spinks re-match who do you all see as the best heavyweights in time since (1978-)
I'd personally go
1. Holmes
2. Holyfield
3. Lewis
4. Tyson
5. Wlad Klit
I think Vitali could have been #4 or 5 had he not retired at his peak since he was probably better than his brother. Riddick Bowe probably had the ability to be top 3 but obviously falls short of the 5 and I think Ibeabuchi may have been the best of the 21st century had he not gone off the rails.
Do any of the current crop have a chance of breaking the top 5 or even 3? And if so, what would they have to do?
Stake is, you leave this site for good and never return and have your account banned for good!
Okay with that? how can YOUR stake be that I leave?
Your stake is something that YOU put up.
HAHAHHA.
U r an idiot of the highest order.
No, you haven't fixed your incorrect grammar and poor spelling. That's the prerequisite before you can actually convey any meaningful info to me. Until then, be ready to get ignored! run away, sure thing.thats your best option.
Stake is, you leave this site for good and never return and have your account banned for good!
Okay with that? how can YOUR stake be that I leave.
HAHAHHA.
U r an idiot of the highest order.
No, you haven't fixed your incorrect grammar and poor spelling. That's the prerequisite before you can actually convey any meaningful info to me. Until then, be ready to get ignored! run away, sure thing.thats your best option.
Since Ali retired after the Spinks re-match who do you all see as the best heavyweights in time since (1978-)
I'd personally go
1. Holmes
2. Holyfield
3. Lewis
4. Tyson
5. Wlad Klit
I think Vitali could have been #4 or 5 had he not retired at his peak since he was probably better than his brother. Riddick Bowe probably had the ability to be top 3 but obviously falls short of the 5 and I think Ibeabuchi may have been the best of the 21st century had he not gone off the rails.
Do any of the current crop have a chance of breaking the top 5 or even 3? And if so, what would they have to do?
Vitali didnt retire at his peak. His peak was probably post Lennox in the johnson fight, atleast fame wise and he was still young so probably prime wise too.
When he retired his body was breaking down and he had multiple cancelled or rescheduled fights by then from injuries. His timing didnt look that great in the chisora fight either.
Whats your stake? accepting lewis tkoed vitali for true.
Stake is, you leave this site for good and never return and have your account banned for good!
Okay with that?
I already did chump, u chose not to see it, no way am i gonna let this run for 15 years like you have tko6.
No, you haven't fixed your incorrect grammar and poor spelling. That's the prerequisite before you can actually convey any meaningful info to me. Until then, be ready to get ignored!
Your grammar and spelling is horrible. So no, I don't know! Feel free to enlighten me!
I already did chump, u chose not to see it, no way am i gonna let this run for 15 years like you have tko6.
What would suit me well and how would whatever you're claiming, suit me well?
So do you want to bet on your account getting banned if you happen to score lower in the intelligent test? You up for the test? Whats your stake? accepting lewis tkoed vitali for true.
exactly, you answered someone elses post, not mine, moron.ho. wiki doesnt tell u the tko6 was illegit.
proof of tko6? yeh mate.
and then again maybe its you for openly writing a word that would get you potentially banned. nice one sherlock.
oh you didnt answer any of the 3 in a row that i showed u, dont pretend you dont know.
exactly, you answered someone elses post, not mine, moron.ho. wiki doesnt tell u the tko6 was illegit.
Who's quote and what quote do you think I answered?
proof of tko6? yeh mate.
Prove the following statement of yours:
"the issue is that YOU are lying."
and then again maybe its you for openly writing a word that would get you potentially banned. nice one sherlock.
Do you want to have your intelligence test done? Your intelligence can be tested and be available for everyone to see as to how intelligent you are relative to me.
Are you up for the bet?
oh you didnt answer any of the 3 in a row that i showed u, dont pretend you dont know.
Your grammar and spelling is horrible. So no, I don't know! Feel free to enlighten me!
that would suit you well, so you wouldnt have to duck my answers.
whats the intelligence question - was tko6 legit? haha.
that would suit you well, so you wouldnt have to duck my answers.
What would suit me well and how would whatever you're claiming, suit me well?
whats the intelligence question - was tko6 legit? haha.
So do you want to bet on your account getting banned if you happen to score lower in the intelligent test? You up for the test?
Not very difficult! We can bet on something and the one who is less intelligent (more idiotic) has to agree on doing something. E.G. Leaving the site for good!
that would suit you well, so you wouldnt have to duck my answers.
whats the intelligence question - was tko6 legit? haha.
That wasn't my post. My post was the following:
"When did I claim someone said Wikipedia is lying"? exactly, you answered someone elses post, not mine, moron.ho. wiki doesnt tell u the tko6 was illegit.
proof or no reason to believe it happened!
proof of tko6? yeh mate.
Depends on how you define the word 'returd'. Maybe it is you who is retarded for using words that don't exist in the English dictionary whilst writing in the English language? and then again maybe its you for openly writing a word that would get you potentially banned. nice one sherlock.
Which answer have I ducked deliberately?
oh you didnt answer any of the 3 in a row that i showed u, dont pretend you dont know.
What same '****'?
Oh that depends on how you define the word 'legitimately'. If by 'legitimately' you mean after getting struck by an illegal move, then sure, he absolutely did lose 'legitimately'.
he defines legitimately as legitimately, mor.onho. not as moping 15 years later.
You have been spewing the same sh1t for years, get over it. Its been 15 years, the guy lost legitimately on cuts, he's not the first, and he won't be the last. End of.
You have been spewing the same sh1t for years, get over it.
What same '****'?
the guy lost legitimately on cuts
Oh that depends on how you define the word 'legitimately'. If by 'legitimately' you mean after getting struck by an illegal move, then sure, he absolutely did lose 'legitimately'.
i am replying to your post that "noone said wikipedia is a lie"
That, in turn, was your reply to me telling you that noone is saying wikipedia is lying, the issue is that YOU are lying.
So now I have to ask - are you some kind of returd? Or have you continually ducked each answer deliberately?
which is it?
i am replying to your post that "noone said wikipedia is a lie"
That wasn't my post. My post was the following:
"When did I claim someone said Wikipedia is lying"?
Ergo, you've now just exposed yourself as the 'liar'. Either that, or you've exposed yourself as someone who is somewhat 'idiotic' (the word you've been using to describe me) because you are either deliberately lying about what I actually posted. Or, you are unable to use your relatively lower intelligence to determine what I actually posted. Or you are a combination of both.
the issue is that YOU are lying.
Proof or no reason to believe it happened!
So now I have to ask - are you some kind of returd?
Depends on how you define the word 'returd'. Maybe it is you who is retarded for using words that don't exist in the English dictionary whilst writing in the English language?
Or have you continually ducked each answer deliberately?
Which answer have I ducked deliberately?
how you going to arrange an intelligence test versus someone on the internet, genius?
stop writing rubbish, concentrate on replying correctly and this wont be an issue.
how you going to arrange an intelligence test versus someone on the internet, genius?
Not very difficult! We can bet on something and the one who is less intelligent (more idiotic) has to agree on doing something. E.G. Leaving the site for good!
stop writing rubbish, concentrate on replying correctly and this wont be an issue.
How do you write 'rubbish'? My concentration is perfectly fine and my responses are also perfectly fine.
there is no illegal punch there. funny that you mention myths though....
so...you trying to claim that vitali K is the greatest fighter Lennox faced yeah? hahah. because he lost by tko6 worse than bruno did, ok.
I'll repeat my answer sure, because he reitred like every HW champ in history by the time or before they reached 38. When r u going to prove that all the HW champs in history SHOULDNT have retired by 38?
why havent you tried to show they were all wrong?
Start with John L Sullivan - prove he should have stayed on till 38. The do Corbett next, and so on up to lewis. When u r finshed post your results - when you done that, I will explain why lewis retired at 38.
there is no illegal punch there.
There is an illegal punch there. See what I did there?
funny that you mention myths though....
Even funnier that you reject reality.
so...you trying to claim that vitali K is the greatest fighter Lennox faced yeah? hahah. because he lost by tko6 worse than bruno did, ok.
Vitali Klitschko was the greatest fighter Lennox Lewis faced because Vitali Klitschko has the best heavyweight record compared to any of Lennox Lewis's other opponents.
Also, in both bouts, Lennox Lewis won through premature questionable stoppages. Frank Bruno was still standing and so was Vitali Klitschko at the time when THE REFEREE HELPED LENNOX LEWIS TO WIN BY STOPPING THE FIGHT IN FAVOR OF LEWIS.
I'll repeat my answer sure, because he reitred like every HW champ in history by the time or before they reached 38.
He also claimed unlike other heavyweight champions that he is like fine whine that gets better with age. So why didn't he prove those words by beating Vitali Klitschko again in a rematch indisputably and unquestionably?
When r u going to prove that all the HW champs in history SHOULDNT have retired by 38?
I don't have to, because I'm not claiming other HW champs shouldn't have retired at age 38 because other HW champs weren't claiming they are like fine whine that get better with age like Lennox Lewis did.
I'm holding Lennox Lewis to the standard he set for himself through the claims he made.
Why are you asking me this question? Did I claim I was 'noone'?
Your incorrect spelling and grammar proves that if anybody is the 'idiot' in this discussion, then it is you!
Do you want to take part in an intelligence test to determine who is more of the 'idiot' and who the less of the 'idiot' is between us both?
Let me know! It can be arranged. Thanks!
I have! Perhaps it's you who needs to comprehend what you're reading properly before you reply?
Several people have also told me that the Earth was flat and they saw Unicorns. Doesn't make those claims any more true!
And yes, there is an illegal punch in the video as I have proven.
Lennox Lewis has never been able to win in any of his other bouts the way he won against Vitali Klitschko. Thus, the way Lennox Lewis beat Vitali Klitschko was from being LUCKY. I.E. A LUCKY + ILLEGAL PUNCH.
If Lennox Lewis was as good as he was claiming to be and some of his fans claim that he is, then why didn't he beat Vitali Klitschko again in a rematch in the same way that he beat him in the first bout (through damaging his eye again)? Are you going to answer this question?
I know he doesn't! Why are you stating this to me?
What is "jose moronho"?
You have been spewing the same sh1t for years, get over it. Its been 15 years, the guy lost legitimately on cuts, he's not the first, and he won't be the last. End of.
Several people have also told me that the Earth was flat and they saw Unicorns. Doesn't make those claims any more true!
And yes, there is an illegal punch in the video as I have proven. there is no illegal punch there. funny that you mention myths though....
Lennox Lewis has never been able to win in any of his other bouts the way he won against Vitali Klitschko.so...you trying to claim that vitali K is the greatest fighter Lennox faced yeah? hahah. because he lost by tko6 worse than bruno did, ok.
If Lennox Lewis was as good as he was claiming to be and some of his fans claim that he is, then why didn't he beat Vitali Klitschko again in a rematch in the same way that he beat him in the first bout (through damaging his eye again)? Are you going to answer this question?
I'll repeat my answer sure, because he reitred like every HW champ in history by the time or before they reached 38. When r u going to prove that all the HW champs in history SHOULDNT have retired by 38?
why havent you tried to show they were all wrong?
Start with John L Sullivan - prove he should have stayed on till 38. The do Corbett next, and so on up to lewis. When u r finshed post your results - when you done that, I will explain why lewis retired at 38.
Do you want to take part in an intelligence test to determine who is more of the 'idiot' and who the less of the 'idiot' is between us both?
Let me know! It can be arranged. Thanks! how you going to arrange an intelligence test versus someone on the internet, genius?
stop writing rubbish, concentrate on replying correctly and this wont be an issue.
Why are you asking me this question? Did I claim I was 'noone'? i am replying to your post that "noone said wikipedia is a lie"
That, in turn, was your reply to me telling you that noone is saying wikipedia is lying, the issue is that YOU are lying.
So now I have to ask - are you some kind of returd? Or have you continually ducked each answer deliberately?
which is it?