The guy fought some bums when he was at his peak, lost to Kovalev (all the grown ups on here know and acknowledge that right?), and punched Kov in the sack in the second fight.
He's a decent fighter, but very over valued and bends the rules with his hugging and stuff.
Woulda loved to Andre Dirrell dismantle him in the super six.
Feel sorry for Dirrell, robbed against Froch and with all his talent never really got his career off the ground.
ward was a world class fighter but he was overrated and hes retired now the divisions heating up. In another country he wouldnt have been able to get away with his fouls, he was protected in america. I thought he got found out in the first kovalev fight and wards gay cheerleader james prince paid off tony weeks off in the rematch to make sure it wouldnt happen again
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Kessler: Ward should have been DQ'd.
Kovalev 1: Should have had points deducted for excessive holding meaning Sergey would have won wide on the cards. It was a robbery.
Kovalev 2: Should have been docked two points for three low blows that brought about that corrupt stoppage. Kovalev should have been given five minutes to recover.
Dawson: meant nothing due to him being drained an entire division. How anyone can claim it was a good win is beyond me.
Froch win is legit.
Abraham also.
And Barrera...
That's it. So yeah, you won't find a more overrated fighter in the last 40 years.
Couldnt agree more
Credit where credit is due, he has 1 good win = froch.
This is how ridiculous the sport is where you can manufacture 'stars' based on 1 or even 0 good wins.
Look at broner with his '4 weight world champion' status, beating up midgets, getting gift decisions (paulie, Ponce de leon) until he finally gets exposed for the hypejob he really is.
Ward is a skilled boxer, but is he 'elite'? i'll get called a hater and kkkovalev fan by all the fanboys but i honestly don't see it.
Potshot single jab, rushing in with the head and clinch / rinse & repeat all fight. If that's not one dimensional i don't know what is.
Let's not pretend a massive part of his game is his dirty tactics, constant clinching mixed in with lowblows, headbutts, elbows etc, and he gets away with it because hes ALWAYS the home fighter. Guy's like that will never fight away from home because you fight kessler in denmark you get DQ'd, you fight kovalev in Russia you lose a UD.
Kessler: Ward should have been DQ'd.
Kovalev 1: Should have had points deducted for excessive holding meaning Sergey would have won wide on the cards. It was a robbery.
Kovalev 2: Should have been docked two points for three low blows that brought about that corrupt stoppage. Kovalev should have been given five minutes to recover.
Dawson: meant nothing due to him being drained an entire division. How anyone can claim it was a good win is beyond me.
Froch win is legit.
Abraham also.
And Barrera...
That's it. So yeah, you won't find a more overrated fighter in the last 40 years.
He's not a poor fighter. He was talented but his talent was overstated. He was one of the best in his generation but I don't see greatness with the guy and yes his style was awful and the fouls did detract from the Kessler or Kovalev 2 fight for me and obviously he got a gift in fight I.
I feel if he was from a different part of the world he'd be hated and ridiculed but it always seems he's had friends in the media and on HBO really pushing a pro Ward angle to enhance his reputation as a boring fighter who fought dirty.
Good summary of Ward this. His career was defintely helped along by some media hyping.
The guy fought some bums when he was at his peak, lost to Kovalev (all the grown ups on here know and acknowledge that right?), and punched Kov in the sack in the second fight.
He's a decent fighter, but very over valued and bends the rules with his hugging and stuff.
Woulda loved to Andre Dirrell dismantle him in the super six.
Feel sorry for Dirrell, robbed against Froch and with all his talent never really got his career off the ground.
Forever traumatised 2 racist fanbases and you're in one if them. Gotta give him credit for that. :lol1:
I like this thread. Andre Ward is one fighter who i really dislike. I hate his fkin boring azz style. It does nothing for me.
I laugh when people make it seem like he is such a cerebral fighter. He clinches excessively due to lack of inside game. That’s what it is. Droopy eyed motherfuker id like to get a full swing on him .
Fuk andre ward
Bute... Lol. You are so desperate. Ward beat Carl with 1 good hand and you're talking about Bute, who never beat anyone. :lol1: Just give up dude.
Your claim was Froch's resume is rubbish, or that's what you tried to insinuate in your post yet Froch beat the best fighter not in the tournament....while Ward needed a holiday. Take it or leave it racist.
I have a way better AND LEGITIMATE question....
Has there ever been a more meaningless fight with a higher attendance than Froch-Groves II?
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=641101
The guy fought some bums when he was at his peak, lost to Kovalev (all the grown ups on here know and acknowledge that right?), and punched Kov in the sack in the second fight.
He's a decent fighter, but very over valued and bends the rules with his hugging and stuff.
Woulda loved to Andre Dirrell dismantle him in the super six.
Feel sorry for Dirrell, robbed against Froch and with all his talent never really got his career off the ground.
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