Has there ever been a boxer who is as scared of another boxer as Golovkin is of Ward?

Yep. Had to get out and make this money I hear that. Hopefully it wasn't -11, and your car has good heat

We still talking about this on Al Gore's internet in 2018? Tragic! Golovkin wasn't/isn't afraid of Ward Loeffler didn't think it was a good fight for GGG. He was angling for that big money Canelo fight and got it. End of discussion. Al Gore didn't invent the internet so we can regurgitate 2015 topics in 2018. That mofo didn't invent global warming so I could be sitting here at 9° either... :rofl: Did you get out of bed today? Lol

criticise ward for what? winning a super 6 tourney...then coming back and beating the #1 guy a division north who was unbeaten and top 5 p4p rated? for making the rematch next after people thought his first win was controversial? yeah lemme criticize ward for that! lemme guess you are one of those clowns that says "ward said 160 for floyd" right?....even though floyd said "i wont ever fight at 160 everyone has limits thats too high for me"=which relegates any talk of a fight at 160 to pure fantasy golovkin actually pursued fights with lesser fighters at 168 "ill fight a guy ward beat or a guy who smokes weed and drinks beer during his training camps...but not ward".....thats a glaring, obvious, difference...that somehow you need to reach and try to equate how many super MWs you see challenging for the HW title? now how many 160 guys you see competing at 168? now many 168 guys you see competing at 175? its all really simple....but the uber fanboy in you cant acknowledge it..... still waiting for that day you use "objectivity" to defend ward, cotto, floyd or canelo.....i know your mother will sprout wings and fly first....but im still waiting on that day you pathetic gimp You and the thread starter appear to have some kind of vendetta against Gennady Golovkin. I'm a Golovkin fan and even I don't think or comment about him as much as you do. Proving that you have an unhealthy obsession related to Golovkin, along with the thread starter, as you seem to be repeating the same points over and over again, that becomes irrelevant after a period of time. Why do you extend my 'objectivity', only to boxers like Ward, Cotto, Floyd or Canelo? Why not also to boxers like Inoue, Nonito Donaire, Roman Gonzalez, Amir Khan and etc. Why do you demand that I defend the first set of boxers and not the second set? Or are you telling me to be objective whilst you're being non-objective and hypocritical? If that's the case, then you are a self-contradiction and that you have no rights to demand me to be objective before you solve your own hypocrisy and lack of objectivity. I haven't got a problem with Ward not moving up to heavyweight. The same way I haven't got a problem with Golovkin not moving up to super middleweight or light heavyweight. Just that if you demand Golovkin to do one thing, then I can also demand Ward to do a particular thing too. There aren't any obligation for either guy to move up in weight in the official rules. The official rules don't state: boxer x or y must move up. If they want to compete in one weight division, then that's their personal choice.

Floyd dodging PAC was legendary. But I didn't know GGG was scared of ward. I thought ward retired as he knew GGG would want him oneday

There are an awful lot of weird posters on here

Everyone knows Ward would've absolutely packed GGG's lunch and take him to school! Even GGG himself knew better! You saw them bodyshots Canelo was landing? Ward would've done that on a more relentless level and making it a in the trenches fight! Ward made Kovalev put the bottle down for good and Ward would've made GGG shut Sanchez up and stand up to him like a got damn man!

why didnt lara move up? cause GGG was the only fight at MW he wanted otherwise it wasnt worth moving up to him....its simple...you saw the quote from loeffler....loeffler had 0 interest in the fight still think it was cause lara was contractually obligated to showtime or do you admit you used that excuse and it had no leg whatsoever? the deadline the eubanks should have had should have been much sooner and if you cant see that you are blind....if eubank is plan A then when you cant get a signature from them by a certain point you move on to plan B(which should have been a MW).....instead they let it play out and play out and then when eubank didnt sign it became "well we had no choice...we had no time and options and brook was available"....wow how lucky huh? how luck is it that hearn just happened to have brook available when magically at the last minute eubank wouldnt sign? was there no warning sign previously that eubank was being difficult? since they had no signature, say, the previous month even? wouldnt it have been time to move on and find another fight? ya probably would have....unless of course brook was your plan the whole time....why didnt loeffler even ask about degale? he didnt even ask... DeGale only wanted to fight if GGG moved up.

"Unfortunately they (the Eubanks) made the deal impossible. The things they wanted were just a complete no-go. They were given a deadline and they chose not to take the fight." The Eubanks declined to comment when contacted by Sky Sports. Then why didn't Lara just move up? He could have become GGG's mandatory, right? Why doesn't he fight Loma? why didnt lara move up? cause GGG was the only fight at MW he wanted otherwise it wasnt worth moving up to him....its simple...you saw the quote from loeffler....loeffler had 0 interest in the fight still think it was cause lara was contractually obligated to showtime or do you admit you used that excuse and it had no leg whatsoever? the deadline the eubanks should have had should have been much sooner and if you cant see that you are blind....if eubank is plan A then when you cant get a signature from them by a certain point you move on to plan B(which should have been a MW).....instead they let it play out and play out and then when eubank didnt sign it became "well we had no choice...we had no time and options and brook was available"....wow how lucky huh? how luck is it that hearn just happened to have brook available when magically at the last minute eubank wouldnt sign? was there no warning sign previously that eubank was being difficult? since they had no signature, say, the previous month even? wouldnt it have been time to move on and find another fight? ya probably would have....unless of course brook was your plan the whole time....why didnt loeffler even ask about degale? he didnt even ask...

lara was not contractually obligated to showtime...he fought on a fight by fight basis...he even made this extremely clear.....but because loeffler made the excuse "lara fights on showtime"....you suckers bought another one of his BS lies cause he knows fools like you yuck it up.....lara came out and made it clear he had no actual contract with showtime "It's well known that Gennady Golovkin - when he fights in the United States - is under exclusive contract with HBO. Lara is with Golden Boy and fights on Showtime. So while he is a great fighter for whom we have a tremendous amount of respect, the bottom line is that HBO is our biggest strategic partner and it's up to his promoter to get him accepted by HBO" how did khan fight on showtime and then go to an HBO fight with canelo? hmmm.....haymons guys arent contractually obligated to showtime and can go fight wherever if the right fight presents itself...did u hear loeffler say "lara is contractually obligated to showtime"? nope...cause he wasnt......but loeffler knew HBO wouldnt accept a lara fight because its not a stand in front of you make you look good fight for the guy they were trying to build as a KO machine "eubank forgot his pen"...eubank didnt forget anything...thats the lamest thing ive ever heard "eubank forgot the pen"....when u dont get a signature from "plan A" by a certain point you move on to plan B.....its k2s fault for waiting so long with no signature....then they pretended brook was the only available last minute replacement and you suckers bought it "forgot his pen".....i swear...you clowns will buy anything....golovkin, sanchez or loeffler could poop in their hands and youd be looking for a fork "Unfortunately they (the Eubanks) made the deal impossible. The things they wanted were just a complete no-go. They were given a deadline and they chose not to take the fight." The Eubanks declined to comment when contacted by Sky Sports. Then why didn't Lara just move up? He could have become GGG's mandatory, right? Why doesn't he fight Loma?

Yeah, it was because GGG was scared, not because Lara is on Showtime. You do know this, right? Or are you just making shít up again? You know the reason why he fought Brook. Because Eubank forgot his pen. This has been explained to you so many times. Why the fúck are you still telling the same fúcking story, despite you know it isn't true? lara was not contractually obligated to showtime...he fought on a fight by fight basis...he even made this extremely clear.....but because loeffler made the excuse "lara fights on showtime"....you suckers bought another one of his BS lies cause he knows fools like you yuck it up.....lara came out and made it clear he had no actual contract with showtime "It's well known that Gennady Golovkin - when he fights in the United States - is under exclusive contract with HBO. Lara is with Golden Boy and fights on Showtime. So while he is a great fighter for whom we have a tremendous amount of respect, the bottom line is that HBO is our biggest strategic partner and it's up to his promoter to get him accepted by HBO" how did khan fight on showtime and then go to an HBO fight with canelo? hmmm.....haymons guys arent contractually obligated to showtime and can go fight wherever if the right fight presents itself...did u hear loeffler say "lara is contractually obligated to showtime"? nope...cause he wasnt......but loeffler knew HBO wouldnt accept a lara fight because its not a stand in front of you make you look good fight for the guy they were trying to build as a KO machine "eubank forgot his pen"...eubank didnt forget anything...thats the lamest thing ive ever heard "eubank forgot the pen"....when u dont get a signature from "plan A" by a certain point you move on to plan B.....its k2s fault for waiting so long with no signature....then they pretended brook was the only available last minute replacement and you suckers bought it "forgot his pen".....i swear...you clowns will buy anything....golovkin, sanchez or loeffler could poop in their hands and youd be looking for a fork

lol...beterbiev won a vacant belt against a guy named enrico kolling....whats ur point? how exactly did bivol attain his title? LOL....ur a clown why did lara have to move up? what did gabe rosado have to do to get a fight with golovkin? how about brook? lara was considered the #1 guy a division below...all he had to do is say "i want to fight you" and it would have made sense......#1 guy at 154 vs #160..... golovkin simply wasnt interested because lara is a spoiler that he couldnt easily find and might not make him look like the destroyer that guys like stevens, wade and lemiuex did.....we all know #1 guy at 154 and #168 golovkin ducked.....but he was ok with fighting kell brooks and gabe rosados and JCC jrs..... charlo is every bit as deserving of a golovkin shot if you think bivol and beterbiev deserve a shot at ward...in fact hes probably more deserving given golovkins weak resume....bivol and beterbiev have as many pro fights as ward combined just try to be consistent....you know guys are saying "charlo dont deserve a fight with golovkin he hasnt done anything" WTF would you say beterbiev and bivol have done to earn a shot at 33 year old guy with over 30 pro fights and several very good scalps and titles in two divisons? won interim titles and fought for vacant belts? LOL Yeah, it was because GGG was scared, not because Lara is on Showtime. You do know this, right? Or are you just making shít up again? You know the reason why he fought Brook. Because Eubank forgot his pen. This has been explained to you so many times. Why the fúck are you still telling the same fúcking story, despite you know it isn't true?

Don't give me that nonsensical excuse. You're the one telling the other user to be consistent. Well then, how about you also remain consistent? How about you remain consistent and also criticize Andre Ward for not moving up to heavyweight just like how you're criticizing Golovkin for not moving up in weight? Chris Byrd managed it, and proved how great he is (will always be a greater boxer than Andre Ward). So how about you criticize Ward like you criticize Golovkin? criticise ward for what? winning a super 6 tourney...then coming back and beating the #1 guy a division north who was unbeaten and top 5 p4p rated? for making the rematch next after people thought his first win was controversial? yeah lemme criticize ward for that! lemme guess you are one of those clowns that says "ward said 160 for floyd" right?....even though floyd said "i wont ever fight at 160 everyone has limits thats too high for me"=which relegates any talk of a fight at 160 to pure fantasy golovkin actually pursued fights with lesser fighters at 168 "ill fight a guy ward beat or a guy who smokes weed and drinks beer during his training camps...but not ward".....thats a glaring, obvious, difference...that somehow you need to reach and try to equate how many super MWs you see challenging for the HW title? now how many 160 guys you see competing at 168? now many 168 guys you see competing at 175? its all really simple....but the uber fanboy in you cant acknowledge it..... still waiting for that day you use "objectivity" to defend ward, cotto, floyd or canelo.....i know your mother will sprout wings and fly first....but im still waiting on that day you pathetic gimp

ya..most super mws are terrified of the klitschkos.... but are most MW champs terrified of super MW champs? are most super MW champs terrified of LHW champs? Don't give me that nonsensical excuse. You're the one telling the other user to be consistent. Well then, how about you also remain consistent? How about you remain consistent and also criticize Andre Ward for not moving up to heavyweight just like how you're criticizing Golovkin for not moving up in weight? Chris Byrd managed it, and proved how great he is (will always be a greater boxer than Andre Ward). So how about you criticize Ward like you criticize Golovkin?

And Andre Ward is terrified of Wladimir Klitschko. Literally shook to his eyeball. Hence, he wasn't brave enough to move up to heavyweight and fight the greatest heavyweight of all time in Wladimir Klitschko. Wladimir Klitschko is Andre Ward's god, his lord, his master and his annihilator. Eddie Chambers at least had the guts and courage to face the great Wladimir Klitschko and so did Chris Byrd. Ergo: Chris Byrd > Andre Ward Eddie Chambers > Andre Ward ya..most super mws are terrified of the klitschkos.... but are most MW champs terrified of super MW champs? are most super MW champs terrified of LHW champs?

And Andre Ward is terrified of Wladimir Klitschko. Literally shook to his eyeball. Hence, he wasn't brave enough to move up to heavyweight and fight the greatest heavyweight of all time in Wladimir Klitschko. Wladimir Klitschko is Andre Ward's god, his lord, his master and his annihilator. Eddie Chambers at least had the guts and courage to face the great Wladimir Klitschko and so did Chris Byrd. Ergo: Chris Byrd > Andre Ward Eddie Chambers > Andre Ward

He got the belt after fighting a 42 year old man. Who had been inactive for a year. Who just lost the belt to Ishe Smith. Who fought the 42 year man. Smith was inactive for a year at the time of the fight. Why didn't Lara just move up in weight? lol...beterbiev won a vacant belt against a guy named enrico kolling....whats ur point? how exactly did bivol attain his title? LOL....ur a clown why did lara have to move up? what did gabe rosado have to do to get a fight with golovkin? how about brook? lara was considered the #1 guy a division below...all he had to do is say "i want to fight you" and it would have made sense......#1 guy at 154 vs #160..... golovkin simply wasnt interested because lara is a spoiler that he couldnt easily find and might not make him look like the destroyer that guys like stevens, wade and lemiuex did.....we all know #1 guy at 154 and #168 golovkin ducked.....but he was ok with fighting kell brooks and gabe rosados and JCC jrs..... charlo is every bit as deserving of a golovkin shot if you think bivol and beterbiev deserve a shot at ward...in fact hes probably more deserving given golovkins weak resume....bivol and beterbiev have as many pro fights as ward combined just try to be consistent....you know guys are saying "charlo dont deserve a fight with golovkin he hasnt done anything" WTF would you say beterbiev and bivol have done to earn a shot at 33 year old guy with over 30 pro fights and several very good scalps and titles in two divisons? won interim titles and fought for vacant belts? LOL

lolol...bivol and beterbiev have like 12 pro fights each its no different than loma having a belt after 3 fights...gvozdyk is friggin 30...beterbiev over 30..... charlo had a belt in a division too...hes moved up and people know his name....hes been on tv and provided a pretty nice highlight reel KO of his own recently no? but hey...keep claiming there are new boogeymen everyday that scared ward away...while trying to make excuses for golovkin to not face charlo.....i mean...u fanboys are good at that...u made excuses for years for him to not fight ward or lara too.....so you guys have your excuse "knives" sharpened He got the belt after fighting a 42 year old man. Who had been inactive for a year. Who just lost the belt to Ishe Smith. Who fought the 42 year man. Smith was inactive for a year at the time of the fight. Why didn't Lara just move up in weight?

Bivol: Current WBA World Light Heavyweight Title holder Beterbiev: Current IBF World Light Heavyweight Title holder Gvozdyk: Current NABF Light Heavyweight Title Holder and WBO NABO Light Heavyweight Title holder Charlo: Former IBF World Super Welterweight Title holder lolol...bivol and beterbiev have like 12 pro fights each its no different than loma having a belt after 3 fights...gvozdyk is friggin 30...beterbiev over 30..... charlo had a belt in a division too...hes moved up and people know his name....hes been on tv and provided a pretty nice highlight reel KO of his own recently no? but hey...keep claiming there are new boogeymen everyday that scared ward away...while trying to make excuses for golovkin to not face charlo.....i mean...u fanboys are good at that...u made excuses for years for him to not fight ward or lara too.....so you guys have your excuse "knives" sharpened

888 views and 53 comments lmao you gotta be a real dimwit to be drawn into debates and arguments like these. NSB st it’s finest.

its funny watching guys run around and say "oh these young guys ran ward to retirement"...guys like bivol, artur, and gvozdyk.......they are the exact same guys that go around saying "what has charlo ever done to deserve a title shot"? you cant make this stuff up Bivol: Current WBA World Light Heavyweight Title holder Beterbiev: Current IBF World Light Heavyweight Title holder Gvozdyk: Current NABF Light Heavyweight Title Holder and WBO NABO Light Heavyweight Title holder Charlo: Former IBF World Super Welterweight Title holder