ah pactrds getting their ass kicked all throughout this thread :rofl:
Who remembers when freddie roach and pedquiao said they had no problem with random olympic drig testing but then backtracked and starting complaining about cut off dates? First it was 30 then 24 then 14 and then 7 LOL :rofl:
ah pactrds getting their ass kicked all throughout this thread :rofl:
Who remembers when freddie roach and pedquiao said they had no problem with random olympic drug testing but then backtracked and starting complaining about cut off dates? First it was 30 then 24 then 14 and then 7 LOL :rofl:
Why did Mayweather beat up his kid's mom in front of the kids??
TMT and Floyd seem to get pass from their fan base for his blatant woman beating and then feasting on Nate Diaz leftovers.
Please explain sirs :usa2:
Also states Mayweather falsely pushing for blood tests up to the day of the weigh in.
USADA has never done this because of health risk.
But Mayweather demanded it.
Mayweather's tests were also full of holes, leaving huge gaps for PEDs use.
Did Mayweather intentionally leave these gap so he could use PEDs.
Big career breaks also give huge windows to use any PEDs he likes
Whenever he had a break he always came back with more muscle mass
Garnished futures is why. Lose to Floyd and your stock goes down. Thats exactly what happened.
Man, I got to say I forgot about the 14 days thing. In retrospect, Manny was so obviously cheating.
Fighthype has a timeline series always refer to when somone disputes Manny and Co. roadblocking the fight.
When you look at the dates, it's impossible to take Pacqiuao's side on anything.
Part 1
http://www.fighthype.com/pages/mayweather-pacquiao-negotiations-timeline-1.html
Part 2
http://www.fighthype.com/pages/content10243.html
Yes, that proves what I said. Deal finalized everything agreed, then Floyd drops the blood test demands
Thanks for proving me right.
Still waiting for a straight answer:
50% and a cut-off of 14 days
or
40% and a cut-off of 10 days.
Which do you think Manny would have preferred?
He fvcked up :lol1:
Yeah, it was great ducking by Floyd.
Do you like cheering on cowards?
Thanks to McNulty, we see you fvcked up yet again.
Your "11th hour" bullshlt, once again, is just that.
1. Roach said they would agree to testing.
2. Koncz, who was with Manny according to him, said they would agree to testing....
But here is the important part. You said everything was mostly agreed to besides the venue.
Well look when the venue talk was being finalized:
December 19th:
So looks like Pac's team had plenty of time to discuss drug testing....and decided it would be best to run away from this fight :lol1:
Again, everything was agreed before, the blood testing. Then it came time for Floyd to sign, and then he dropped the blood testing.
And again, it was first mentioned as 30 days blood tests, when Manny agreed, Floyd said something to prevent the fight.
Any answers on Why Floyd then took 1-2 years out?
I dont think Pacquiao woukd duck Mayweather man what is in it for him ?
He wasnt afraid of Losing and i think he would've liked a nice paycheck, what would his motive be ? Only thing i can think of is him being afraid of getting busted for PEDs or something like that
Garnished futures is why. Lose to Floyd and your stock goes down. Thats exactly what happened.
SNIP
Man, I got to say I forgot about the 14 days thing. In retrospect, Manny was so obviously cheating.
Fighthype has a timeline series always refer to when somone disputes Manny and Co. roadblocking the fight.
When you look at the dates, it's impossible to take Pacqiuao's side on anything.
Part 1
http://www.fighthype.com/pages/mayweather-pacquiao-negotiations-timeline-1.html
Part 2
http://www.fighthype.com/pages/content10243.html
Sure. And you keep dealing with the fact that Pacquaio turned down 14 days in favor of 24 days and his own father figure said he was to blame for the fight not happening.
Or how about you deal with the fact that he could have had 50% and a 14 day cut-off, but got 40% and a 10 day cut-off.
Again, which do you think he would have preferred? It's not rocket science :lol1:
By the way, what happened to 18 days? Or were you wrong???
Mayweather turned down the fight at 24 days. Mayweather refused NSAC carrying out the blood tests.
Pacquiao said he would take any test the commission see fit.
Pacquiao's team did put forward a compromise of 18 days. Floyd walked away.
What your excuse of Floyd bring up the drug testing in the 11th hour? Dec 13th. And when Pacquiao agreed to that he brought in 14 days
And then when Pacquiao agreed to everything, Floyd said he wanted to take a year or two out from boxing?
What the excuse? Or are you going to duck them like Mayweather ducked Pacquiao?
Mayweather sent his list of request to Arum, in the first week of December. Only when Pacquiao agreed and sent the contract back in the 2nd week of December then Floyd brought up the drug testing.
Everything was agreed, apart from the venue, where it looked like the MGM after Floyd rejected Cowboys stadium.
Everything was done and then Floyd pulled the blood tests.
My links back this up
Deal with that FACT.
I like how you back your facts up with evidence. Here's more evidence. http://www.mlive.com/mayweather/2009/11/floyd_mayweather_an_underdog_t.html Mayweather knew Pacquiao was a threat, he did not want to fight so he needed to find a road block. Mayweather only takes fights he knows he's going to win
Why did Mayweather beat up his kid's mom in front of the kids??
TMT and Floyd seem to get pass from their fan base for his blatant woman beating and then feasting on Nate Diaz leftovers.
Please explain sirs :usa2:
What is the point of you posting that to me?
You said he offered 18 days, and now no more mention of that.
You said the testing was mentioned at the “11th hour,” and I just showed you that Roach knew about it by the time the contract was sent. Not only that, Koncz, who said he was WITH PACQUIAO two days after the contract was sent, said it was no problem.
So I don’t see your point. All I see is you continuing to squirm.
Again, 14 days was more than reasonable. This is over 7 years old man. Even Roach admits what went wrong here. Let it go.
Mayweather sent his list of request to Arum, in the first week of December. Only when Pacquiao agreed and sent the contract back in the 2nd week of December then Floyd brought up the drug testing.
Everything was agreed, apart from the venue, where it looked like the MGM after Floyd rejected Cowboys stadium.
Everything was done and then Floyd pulled the blood tests.
My links back this up
Deal with that FACT.
Here's your explanation that you've been asking for:
So on the date that the contract was sent, Roach was already talking about the request for testing. Also, 2 days after that, Koncz said the testing was no problem. I guess that your "11th hour" bullshlt was simply bullshlt.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/boxing/6753406/Manny-Pacquiao-fight-with-Floyd-Mayweather-Jnr-likely-to-be-most-lucrative-in-history.html
Promoter Bob Arum, of Top Rank, left Manila on Sunday, after a three-day visit in which he relayed an offer from Mayweather. Both fighters are guaranteed $25 million, before their shares in pay per view revenue
The fight could easily gross $100 million which, if it catches fire in the mainstream, could rise to $150 million. Arum insists the boxers' signatures "are a formality", but it is not so. The venue is yet to be decided, but at least the weight is set at 147lb, and at welterweight, that suits Mayweather.
Arum met with Mayweather, Floyd gave him a list of his demands. Arum went to Manila and and discussed the terms with Pacquiao.
Pacquiao agreed to all of Mayweather's terms. Only thing not decided was the venue.
Pacquiao did add it a clause that Mayweather had to make 147lbs and every pound over he would have to pay Pacquaio a Million.
And only then when everything was agreed, Pacquiao had agreed to all Floyd's terms, then Floyd brought out the blood testing.
The teams had been in negotiations since Pacquiao's destruction of Cotto in early November but not until the contract is almost done does Floyd try to duck with blood tests
At worst, you're a liar and at best, you are uninformed.
There was no discussion of 18 days. Mayweather's team said they would accept 14 days, Pacquiao's team said 24 days.
14 days was more than reasonable and you know it. And where did you get this information that Mayweather's team told him to sign? The teams were in mediation, man. What the hell are you talking about????
And sign what? Mayweather signed the 50/50 contract. The signature that was missing was Pacquiao's.
And stop with your "waiting for the 11th hour" bullshlt. Where are you even getting that from. You're pulling this shlt out of your ass like you are pulling 18 days out of your ass. It's not going to work. You seem real butthurt that your boy refused to agree to anything except a whopping 24 day cut-off....
and in the end got 10% less and on cut-off, and wound up being blood tested 10 days before the fight.
Which do you think Pac would have wanted:
50% and 14 day cutt-off
or
40% and 10 day cut-off.
Your boy shlt the bed. Give up.
Pacquiao's team wanted to compromised Floyd walked away.
Amazing how none of you can answer my questions and gloss over Floyd's blatant ducks.
Where are you getting 18 days from? 18 days was never offered.
Pacquiao turned down 50/50 with testing.
He then turned down 50/50 with a 14 day cut off.
When Mayweather tried to negotiate again, they said they had to build an outdoor arena.
Then that Pacquiao needed 7 months for a cut to heal.
Pacquiao didn't want the fight.
You don't know when blood testing was brought up. You weren't involved in the negotiations. :dunce:
It was claimed Pacquiao agreed to testing and then changed his mind when sent the contract.
Pacquiao put that on the table. Floyd said no.
Still no explanation why Floyd only brought up the blood testing once everything else was agreed.
Pacquiao's team reached out to Floyd after the Mosley fight, and said lets get it done and said if these blood test will get us the fight lets do it.
What did Floyd say?
I posted the video of what he said. He said he wasn't thinking about boxing and wanted to take a year or two away from boxing.
A blatant duck.
Are you a coward yourself?
You just said yourself peak training is two weeks out from fight night.
Mayweather offered 2 weeks with no blood testing. Pacquiao refused.
Seems you kind of stepped in shlt there.
14 days was more than reasonable and you know it. Stop the nonsense. Saying he didn’t want to fight because he offered a 14 day cutoff is asinine.
Mayweather also wanted to control the drug testing, he said no to NSAC carrying out the blood tests.
Mayweather does not control the doping controls in boxing, and in any other sport this would not be tolerated and would be seen as a conflict of interests
Do you think there is a difference between 18 days and 14 days? Mayweather's team didn't think so and told Floyd to sign. Floyd said no and walked away from the fight.
And it was only the blood tests Pacquiao was saying no to.
Then when Pacquiao again, said let's get it on. Mayweather said, I not thinking about boxing and I want to take a year or two break.
A clear duck of a prime Pacquiao.
Still no explanation from you why Mayweather waited till the 11th hour when everything else was agreed to bring up blood testing?
Top rank and pacquiao seem to get pass for their blatant ducking and then feasting on TBE leftovers.
Please explain sirs :usa2:
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