How would today's fighter handle fighting 15 rounds as it was years ago, also fighting 20+ times a year such as SRR did, would that affect their longevity in the game and their records, they also couldn't duck opponents as they do now with only 1 word title belt to win, technology advancements mean fighters now have better training, better nutrition but they fight less rounds and far less often. Would the elite fighters of today crash and burn, fighting 20 times a year would also mean you would be constantly fighting with injuries
Could they do it 20 times in one year?, with injuries?
Dont think they will do it 20 times in one year. Not because of injuries only though, but they are paid to much nowadays.
If they had to fight so many times a year many fighters would have to move up a weight class or two.
So Jacobs would probably be a cruiser weight fighting about 185 to 190 , Crawford would be a Jr Middle for sure
Today's boxers would whoop them in all honesty. It is generally agreed that sports evolve, and so do the athletes - even in combat sports like MMA we see this, but people still hold on to the past in boxing with rose-tinted glasses.
I respect the fighting spirit of the old guys though, even if they were just beating glorified amateurs once a week
They fought much more often but 20 fights a year was not the average and they didn't have to fight that often. Robinson fought about 5 non title fights for every title defense. There was only one champion but he could still duck a top contender if he wanted to. I think 10 fights a year would be closer to the average and that many fights would be hard on a boxer. They wouldn't last as long taking that many punches. Some very good boxers never did get a title shot.
I checked Robinson's record. He did fight 20 fights in 1950 and 1941 but he fought less than 10 fights a year in most years. There were years he fought only 1,2, or 3 times. He took 2.5 years of after he lost to Maxim. He had 199 fights in 22 active years for an average of about 9 fights a year. That's much more than any boxer fights today.
In another thread, I looked up a random stretch in Kid Gavilan’s career, merely to demonstrate activity decades ago. The Kid fought on 10/13/56, 11/13/56, 12/04/56 and 12/20/56. Insane by today’s standards. And, as you know, this kind of schedule wasn’t unusual for a fighter. Willie Pep fought 241 professional bouts in a career spanning 26 years. You don’t have to be good at math to immediately see that’s an average of almost ten fights per year.
Being a professional fighter is a bad career choice today, but in the old days, it was even worse. That accounts for a lot of the activity. These guys literally had to fight for a living. No fights, no money; no money, no food.
I checked Robinson's record. He did fight 20 fights in 1950 and 1941 but he fought less than 10 fights a year in most years. There were years he fought only 1,2, or 3 times. He took 2.5 years of after he lost to Maxim. He had 199 fights in 22 active years for an average of about 9 fights a year. That's much more than any boxer fights today.
They fought much more often but 20 fights a year was not the average and they didn't have to fight that often. Robinson fought about 5 non title fights for every title defense. There was only one champion but he could still duck a top contender if he wanted to. I think 10 fights a year would be closer to the average and that many fights would be hard on a boxer. They wouldn't last as long taking that many punches. Some very good boxers never did get a title shot.
Eastern Euros would benefit from the old school type of boxing the most. Most of them have extensive amateur background and are used to fight very often. Loma, Usyk, Gvozdyk, Golovkin etc. Other than few exceptions like the vodka drinking version of Kovalev they mostly have great cardio too and would benefit from the 15 round fights like Golovkin, Provodnikov... Loma doesn't seem to have any cardio problems either and gets better as the fight goes on.
Marco Huck was also a type of boxer who would be a legend in the old school days. He would fight anybody anytime.
Fighters of today will adjust to the 15 rounds as well, obviously not all can make it. Mayweather will go 15 rounds easy as he always did in the 12 rounds, while Canelo nooot pretty sure he can make it, and more fighters are capable of doing it.
A lot of modern fighters would benefit from the 15 round fights. Out of the active fighters Golovkin for example. I doubt that Jacobs and Canelo would last 3 more rounds with him. Especially Jacobs was completely exhausted after the final bell.
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Fighters of today will adjust to the 15 rounds as well, obviously not all can make it. Mayweather will go 15 rounds easy as he always did in the 12 rounds, while Canelo nooot pretty sure he can make it, and more fighters are capable of doing it.
Fighters of the past also ducked each other, Jack Dempsey might have ducked Harry Greb (there is an 'interview' where Dempsey said he wanted nothing of Greb), Floyd Patterson's management didn't want him to fight Sonny Liston (although they fought twice) and for sure there are other occasions.
Could they do it 20 times in one year?, with injuries?
In a 15 round fight Carl Froch would smash CoWard
There was no juice no PEDs no extreme weight cutting but pride and pure Natural power
Boxers were Farmers construction workers smiths and so on
They had Great fundamentals and lot of heart
Today it's just some basic boxing plus juicing and s&c
Some great guys Are still out there but all in all boxing is a trash comedy these days
Fighters of today will adjust to the 15 rounds as well, obviously not all can make it. Mayweather will go 15 rounds easy as he always did in the 12 rounds, while Canelo nooot pretty sure he can make it, and more fighters are capable of doing it.
Fighters of the past also ducked each other, Jack Dempsey might have ducked Harry Greb (there is an 'interview' where Dempsey said he wanted nothing of Greb), Floyd Patterson's management didn't want him to fight Sonny Liston (although they fought twice) and for sure there are other occasions.
I agree wholeheartedly, fighters once had pride, actually wanted to prove they were the best, they didn't need to wait 5 years to fight an opponent
Sadly, pride has become scarce everywhere, not just in boxing. Really sucks for the sport that it takes years for the best to fight the best. Physical primes don’t last forever.
I acknowledged that ducking is more prevelant today, but that’s not to say it didn’t exist in the past. The sport has changed much over the years. And I can’t think of too many ways it’s changed for the better.
I agree wholeheartedly, fighters once had pride, actually wanted to prove they were the best, they didn't need to wait 5 years to fight an opponent
To get to the titleholder you needed to fight the people between you and the titleholder, these days they take another easier path to another belt making it much easier to avoid threats
I acknowledged that ducking is more prevelant today, but that’s not to say it didn’t exist in the past. The sport has changed much over the years. And I can’t think of too many ways it’s changed for the better.
Well, it’s not like humans were more physically advanced years ago. Lol Naturally you can’t go from zero to sixty overnight, but if the game changed, today’s fighters would adjust. Also, fighters did duck each other in the old days. Maybe it wasn’t as prevelant as it is now, but avoiding fighters has always existed. Just think Charlie Burley.
To get to the titleholder you needed to fight the people between you and the titleholder, these days they take another easier path to another belt making it much easier to avoid threats
Well, it’s not like humans were more physically advanced years ago. Lol Naturally you can’t go from zero to sixty overnight, but if the game changed, today’s fighters would adjust. Also, fighters did duck each other in the old days. Maybe it wasn’t as prevelant as it is now, but avoiding fighters has always existed. Just think Charlie Burley.