Danny Garcia Is Screwing Up His Legacy

Lamont Peterson and Keith Thurman were joke fights? I'm not saying that it's enough in the 4 years since he fought Matthysse but I don't know how you can put him in the same category as Stevenson and Berto. Stevenson is the master of ducking. Last I heard about him, the WBC's investigating him because he hasn't fought any mandatories. I've heard that Berto is just a victim of bad management, but who knows?

glory fades and is fleeting...the welfare of your family doesnt even after you're dead.....its a sad reality like i said...danny aint complaining...seems content...i know he has a little girl I hope Danny either retires soon, or loses to one of his cherries. Dude is seriously mediocre at 147. I don't get how he gets paid so much for fighting bums.

Yeah, I mean his dad pretty much exposed him. "Sometimes it's not about the glory, it's about the paper." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zc08-DJki9M glory fades and is fleeting...the welfare of your family doesnt even after you're dead.....its a sad reality like i said...danny aint complaining...seems content...i know he has a little girl

i havent read through this whole thread...just the first post and page....but did anyone ever stop and think that danny garcia doesnt really care about his legacy? im not a garcia fan..im indifferent to him....dont really care what he does.....but i dont hear danny garcia out here(that im aware of) complaining about his activity, who hes fighting or his money? danny garcia seems genuinely happy not all fighters are concerned with some percieved "legacy"....even everyones idol golovkin isnt all that concerned or else he would have done things differently.....danny seems content Yeah, I mean his dad pretty much exposed him. "Sometimes it's not about the glory, it's about the paper." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zc08-DJki9M

i havent read through this whole thread...just the first post and page....but did anyone ever stop and think that danny garcia doesnt really care about his legacy? im not a garcia fan..im indifferent to him....dont really care what he does.....but i dont hear danny garcia out here(that im aware of) complaining about his activity, who hes fighting or his money? danny garcia seems genuinely happy not all fighters are concerned with some percieved "legacy"....even everyones idol golovkin isnt all that concerned or else he would have done things differently.....danny seems content

I'm tellin you, these lil fanboys are on some bullshit. This dude defends Garcia like his life depends on it. Lol, "Matthysse and Khan doe." if you asked him to defend Garcia at 47 he deflects it with his "look it as a whole" bs. Garcia at 40 had khan and lucas, good wins, don't take it away from him, but I still say those were fortunate wins. if he knew he could beat both of those guys he would've gave them a rematch but instead he ran away.

bu bu bu bu bu bu bu you can't look at the last 3 years, you need to look at his resume as a "WHOLE" doe. and his resume as a "WHOLE" is the 2nd best in his age class. who else in his age has zab Judah, vargas, and ron salsa lol again points to this dude for trying but u and dag are just killing him I'm tellin you, these lil fanboys are on some bullshit. This dude defends Garcia like his life depends on it. Lol, "Matthysse and Khan doe."

I doubt it. That's a straw man argument. I never said that Garcia is shit for losing to Thurman. Herrera already proved Garcia isn't all that great, Thurman just reaffirmed it. The only things Provodnikov has are punching power and a good chin. Dude got outboxed by John fucking Molina in his last fight. Lundy has never achieved anything major in his entire career. He fell short every time he fought a great opponent. Herrera didn't achieve anything major, whenever he wasn't getting robbed, and he was the underdog against Garcia. Herrera doesn't have to be as bad as Salka, in order to be a cherry. Cherries are cherries, no matter the quality. Here's a reality check: There's a reason hardly anyone still cares about Garcia's wins against Khan and Matthysse. It's been years, and his best achievement after Matthysse, is beating Peterson in a fight that could've gone either way. You talk about Matthysse and Khan, as if Danny retired after fighting them. How do you fight mostly bums and has-beens for 3 years, and not be considered a cherry picker? The facts show what, that Garcia hasn't looked impressive since beating Matthysse? You're acting like Garcia fought nothing but good competition. I backed up my cherry picker claim, by pointing out most of Garcia's opponents over the last 3 years, as well as his upcoming bout. You keep bringing up fights that took place 4 and 5 years ago. What kind of fighter, in their prime, faces 2 good fighters in 3 years? How long are you planning on bringing up Matthysse and Khan, before you realize that Garcia just isn't all that great? bu bu bu bu bu bu bu you can't look at the last 3 years, you need to look at his resume as a "WHOLE" doe. and his resume as a "WHOLE" is the 2nd best in his age class. who else in his age has zab Judah, vargas, and ron salsa lol again points to this dude for trying but u and dag are just killing him

Last time I doubt it. Yeah losing a close fight to a P4P fighter in your second weight class confirms that Garcia is sh.it. Yeah ok buds That's a straw man argument. I never said that Garcia is shit for losing to Thurman. Herrera already proved Garcia isn't all that great, Thurman just reaffirmed it. Herrera at the time was a top 10 guy at 140, was the last guy at 140 to beat Ruslan who had a strap at the time and Lundy a top 15 guy at the weight and went on to have close fights with Garcia and Benividez to lump Herrera in with Salka is retarded there not on the same level The only things Provodnikov has are punching power and a good chin. Dude got outboxed by John fucking Molina in his last fight. Lundy has never achieved anything major in his entire career. He fell short every time he fought a great opponent. Herrera didn't achieve anything major, whenever he wasn't getting robbed, and he was the underdog against Garcia. Herrera doesn't have to be as bad as Salka, in order to be a cherry. Cherries are cherries, no matter the quality. How can a fighter who has the second best resume his age be a cherry picker. How can a fighter who's been the underdog in more fights against Prime competition then almost anyone his age and won more often then not be a cherry picker ? Here's a reality check: There's a reason hardly anyone still cares about Garcia's wins against Khan and Matthysse. It's been years, and his best achievement after Matthysse, is beating Peterson in a fight that could've gone either way. You talk about Matthysse and Khan, as if Danny retired after fighting them. How do you fight mostly bums and has-beens for 3 years, and not be considered a cherry picker? It's easy for slicc to repeat the easy narrative that Garcia is a cherry picker but the Facts show otherwise The facts show what, that Garcia hasn't looked impressive since beating Matthysse? Unless you consider repeating the same cherry picker line over and over again winning the argument then yeah he won You're acting like Garcia fought nothing but good competition. I backed up my cherry picker claim, by pointing out most of Garcia's opponents over the last 3 years, as well as his upcoming bout. You keep bringing up fights that took place 4 and 5 years ago. What kind of fighter, in their prime, faces 2 good fighters in 3 years? How long are you planning on bringing up Matthysse and Khan, before you realize that Garcia just isn't all that great?

"I would classify A cherry picker as some one who always has an advantage in a fight" -you ward had all the advantages so according to you from a couple posts ago he's a cherry picker. you are really debating yourself here, and losing. is that possible? basically what you are trying to say is that its ok to have all the advantages and know you will win on the cards and can get away with cheating if its against good opponents? thats a really poor argument because thats the time when you most need cheating. did ward need to cheat against brand or paul smith? no of course not. he didn't hold, wrestle, headbutt, or low blow against them because he didn't have to. the only reason he took the tougher fights is because he knew he could get away with cheating. just look how he turned down the biggest fights of his career when forced to travel, so ward himself knows these advantages are the most important thing. he was not willing to fight when he didnt have them. and was when he had them. hence a cherry pick like you originaly said but then got offended when you realized someone you like(love?) does it. You got me Daggum , I should have gone into more detail what my views are on a Cherry picker. I've stated in previous posts that getting a advantage in location and such is part of the sport that to me isn't cherry picking it's just part of the sport Fighting against guys who are old , coming off losses , inactive or moving up to weight class they haven't fought before or aren't comfortable in to me is cherry picking To me Fighting elite level competition in their prime isn't cherry picking. But maybe that's me Yes the judges , the ref , HBO were all against Kovalev because he's Russian and a bad guy It's just such a laughable excuse to blame the judging and the ref instead of blaming the fighter who faded in both fights in the second half and in the rematch was looking for a way out. Yes the first fight was close and could have gone either way. I scored it like the judges 114-113 for Ward but the fight could have been a draw or given to Kov. Kov didn't lose both fights because of the judging or the refs he lost because he faded in the second half and allowed Ward back in it. And Kov the bully couldn't handle someone bullying him back Does Ward fight dirty, yeah but this sport is basically about trying to beat the sh.it out of another human being.Things are bound to get ugly, fighters have been pushing the limits of whatever they can get away with since the beginning of the sport and part of the sport is how fighters deal with it. Were you crying for Mayweather when Maidana fought dirty as f.uck in the first fight. No you didn't and you shouldn't have because that's what he needed to do to try and get a W In the case of Kov, Ward mentally broke Kov in the rematch and had him looking for a way out because he couldn't handle being bullied . That's basically it

It's not a flip flop at all Trying to get advantages in location, gloves , ring size is part of the sport You can't be Fighting the best available fighters in their prime in 50/50 fights and be considered a cherry picker You continually crying about the judges , ref , humidity in the arena , location or whatever else to help you cope with the fact Kov lost twice to Ward is just you Crying and looking for excuses Now if you want to go through on how Top Ranks treats their stars and giving them fights when most of the notable names they face are either moving up/down in weight , coming off a loss , old or inactive that will be closer to the definition of cherry picking for the right opportunity "I would classify A cherry picker as some one who always has an advantage in a fight" -you ward had all the advantages so according to you from a couple posts ago he's a cherry picker. you are really debating yourself here, and losing. is that possible? basically what you are trying to say is that its ok to have all the advantages and know you will win on the cards and can get away with cheating if its against good opponents? thats a really poor argument because thats the time when you most need cheating. did ward need to cheat against brand or paul smith? no of course not. he didn't hold, wrestle, headbutt, or low blow against them because he didn't have to. the only reason he took the tougher fights is because he knew he could get away with cheating. just look how he turned down the biggest fights of his career when forced to travel, so ward himself knows these advantages are the most important thing. he was not willing to fight when he didnt have them. and was when he had them. hence a cherry pick like you originaly said but then got offended when you realized someone you like(love?) does it.

Just because Garcia didn't only fight cherries, doesn't mean he's not a cherry picker. It's not like Thurman was the first fighter to make Garcia look mediocre. Garcia was overdue for a loss on his record, since Herrera. Keith Thurman confirmed that Garcia ain't shit above 140. Who has Vargas beaten? Garcia and Spence are literally the only quality fighters he's faced, and he lost horribly against them. Herrera is nothing special, either. Who has Lundy beaten? He also lost to every decent opponent he's faced. I wanted tap out but I got to reply Last time Yeah losing a close fight to a P4P fighter in your second weight class confirms that Garcia is sh.it. Yeah ok buds Herrera at the time was a top 10 guy at 140, was the last guy at 140 to beat Ruslan who had a strap at the time and Lundy a top 15 guy at the weight and went on to have close fights with Garcia and Benividez to lump Herrera in with Salka is retarded there not on the same level lol talk about ownage. i think you should just stop there. you've provided enough facts, the fact that this person is still arguing that danny is 2nd best behind canelo tells me you may be talking to the actual danny garcia lol He hasn't mentioned any real facts just keeps repeating Garcias a cherry picker not really any owenage I never said Garcia is the second best fighter not even close just saying for a fighter his age he has the second best resume behind Canelo. How can a fighter who has the second best resume his age be a cherry picker. How can a fighter who's been the underdog in more fights against Prime competition then almost anyone his age and won more often then not be a cherry picker ? lol man i wish i had the popcorn ready before seeing this slicc vs r_walken battle. what's the scorecard? i have slicc winning but i give credit points to r_walken for continuing to try It's easy for slicc to repeat the easy narrative that Garcia is a cherry picker but the Facts show otherwise I get it defending Garcia on this site is basically impossible because he's one of the most hated fighters on here and has the infamous Salka fight but if you read through the whole discussion and arent biased there's no way Slicc won anything Unless you consider repeating the same cherry picker line over and over again winning the argument then yeah he won well that's a strange flip flop just 5 minutes later. you said a cherry picker is someone who has every fight to his advantage. that describes ward perfectly does it not? the super six was setup in wards favor. everyone else had 1 home fight he had all 5. just look at the reffing in ward-kessler. advantage ward! nonstop clinching and leaping head first into your opponent over and over were ignored to get the desired result. then the ward-kovalev fights were obviously to his advantage. the 3 judges laughably gave him the decision and rounds like round 10 that he clearly lost. then the rematch was to his advantage as the ref stopped calling punches low that he had previously called low in the earlier rounds and it ended with the ref saying low punches were legit. so yes on paper it might look like a tough schedule but when you know you have things in your favor its not so tough. just dont get knocked out, cheat all you want, and you get the win. i guess he was good enough to do that congrats? It's not a flip flop at all Trying to get advantages in location, gloves , ring size is part of the sport You can't be Fighting the best available fighters in their prime in 50/50 fights and be considered a cherry picker You continually crying about the judges , ref , humidity in the arena , location or whatever else to help you cope with the fact Kov lost twice to Ward is just you Crying and looking for excuses Now if you want to go through on how Top Ranks treats their stars and giving them fights when most of the notable names they face are either moving up/down in weight , coming off a loss , old or inactive that will be closer to the definition of cherry picking for the right opportunity

lol right on yea those 2 are huge dickriders of canelo LalinPromotions' pussy ass has been ducking me on other people's threads, too. If it weren't for the ignore list feature, I would've torn him to shreds on his Canelo fanboy threads. He doesn't want any smoke. Lmao

If you liked that, then you'll love this: https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=765491&highlight=Canelo+future I argued with Bjl12 and LalinPromotions at the same time, and destroyed them so hard, that LalinPromotions put me on ignore, and Bjl12 quit. :lol1: lol right on yea those 2 are huge dickriders of canelo

lol man i wish i had the popcorn ready before seeing this slicc vs r_walken battle. what's the scorecard? i have slicc winning but i give credit points to r_walken for continuing to try If you liked that, then you'll love this: https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=765491&highlight=Canelo+future I argued with Bjl12 and LalinPromotions at the same time, and destroyed them so hard, that LalinPromotions put me on ignore, and Bjl12 quit. :lol1:

I wouldn't say that a fighter who jumps up in weight and fight the perceived #1 fighter in that division who was prime and undeafted a cherry pick Or who entered the super 6 as a darkhorse and beat the top guys and a future HOF in his prime a cherry pick But hey to each their own I guess Still mad over the Ward/Kov outcomes Daggum it's ok hopefully in another couple years the pain you feel will ease up well that's a strange flip flop just 5 minutes later. you said a cherry picker is someone who has every fight to his advantage. that describes ward perfectly does it not? the super six was setup in wards favor. everyone else had 1 home fight he had all 5. just look at the reffing in ward-kessler. advantage ward! nonstop clinching and leaping head first into your opponent over and over were ignored to get the desired result. then the ward-kovalev fights were obviously to his advantage. the 3 judges laughably gave him the decision and rounds like round 10 that he clearly lost. then the rematch was to his advantage as the ref stopped calling punches low that he had previously called low in the earlier rounds and it ended with the ref saying low punches were legit. so yes on paper it might look like a tough schedule but when you know you have things in your favor its not so tough. just dont get knocked out, cheat all you want, and you get the win. i guess he was good enough to do that congrats?

lol man i wish i had the popcorn ready before seeing this slicc vs r_walken battle. what's the scorecard? i have slicc winning but i give credit points to r_walken for continuing to try

I would classify A cherry picker as some one who always has an advantage in a fight and never takes on tough competition always looking for the easiest route Just because Garcia didn't only fight cherries, doesn't mean he's not a cherry picker. Yeah having your first loss to a guy considered a P4P talent in his prime in a reasonably close fight shows you that Garcia was never any good. You realize how f.ucking stupid that sounds It's not like Thurman was the first fighter to make Garcia look mediocre. Garcia was overdue for a loss on his record, since Herrera. Keith Thurman confirmed that Garcia ain't shit above 140. I already said that Salka was a sh.it fight but to lump Vargas a guy who's only losses are to Spence and Garcia me who's a lower level contender and Herrera a guy who when he fought Garcia was a top 10 guy and who has beat Ruslan and Lundy and who had fights with Benividez and Garcia which could have gone either way makes you come across as a retard Have a good one man Who has Vargas beaten? Garcia and Spence are literally the only quality fighters he's faced, and he lost horribly against them. Herrera is nothing special, either. Who has Lundy beaten? He also lost to every decent opponent he's faced.

Garcia beat Matthysse, Judah, Khan, Holt and Campbell 4-6 years ago. Who the fuck still cares? What did he do since Matthysse? He got exposed by Herrera, fought the TBE of bums, got exposed again by Peterson, fought 2 has-beens and a bum, then finally lost to Thurman. Salka, Herrera, Vargas and Malignaggi weren't cherry picks? 2 fights a year and he takes up one for Herrera and Salka? Wow, such quality opposition! Let's not forget the time he paid Postol not to fight him. Danny Garcia rarely challenged himself after Matthysse. He fought Peterson and Thurman, 2 years apart, with bums and has-beens before and in between both fights. Did his resume save his 0 from Thurman? No. What matters is what he's doing now. Right now, he's getting ready to fight yet another cherry, after having taken an unnecessary layoff. I don't give a shit about who Cherry boy fought at 140. Cherry pickers don't get my respect, and 147 is a whole other ballgame. He lost, the moment he fought a decent welterweight. That says everything I need to know about him at 147. Rios didn't just lose, he was reduced to a human punching bag. Dude was blocking punches with his face. Rios struggled against Aaron Herrera, in his last fight. Rios is probably decent in an alternate universe. 11 months is not "some time," that's way too much time for a healthy fighter, especially in their prime. Again, he wasn't injured or knocked out, so there's no reason why he needed to take that much time off. What's this match supposed to prove, that Danny Garcia can beat bums? We already know that. He's been showing us that for years. Nobody's asking Danny Garcia to take a hard fight on his comeback, but the least he can do is get someone who can fight worth a fuck. Shabranskyy didn't retire, come out of retirement, then struggle against a bum. Not only that, but Kovalev was coming off of a stoppage loss, and a car accident. lol talk about ownage. i think you should just stop there. you've provided enough facts, the fact that this person is still arguing that danny is 2nd best behind canelo tells me you may be talking to the actual danny garcia lol

describes andre ward perfectly i remember morales was shot when manny beat him....according to some. i wonder who they were... I wouldn't say that a fighter who jumps up in weight and fight the perceived #1 fighter in that division who was prime and undeafted a cherry pick Or who entered the super 6 as a darkhorse and beat the top guys and a future HOF in his prime a cherry pick But hey to each their own I guess Still mad over the Ward/Kov outcomes Daggum it's ok hopefully in another couple years the pain you feel will ease up