Fighters that are just a level below elite

Canelo Alvarez Gennady Golovkin Sullivan Barrera Kovalev Sadam Ali Jessie Vargas Cotto Canelo is definitely elite. As is GGG

Which fighters would you say are good to very good but not at the elite level but are maybe just a step below. I’d personally say Maidana, Matthysse, Peterson, Danny Garcia, Judah fit in this category. Matthysse is one of my favorite fighters but he always came up short against really tough fighters most of the time. Khan I think had a small few year window where he was considered an elite level fighter but than once he got KO’d by Garcia he’s never been the same. I think Peterson could have been elite, but he seems to have some kind of mental/confidence issue. Watch the Danny Garcia fight, he ran and didn't even start fighting until the mid rounds. When decided to fight, he was outclassing Garcia.

Yes, Trout is a great one. A very good fighter but just a level below the best. Porter it’s still hard to say. I personally feel he clearly lost to Thurman but it was sort of close. Porter won 4 or 5 rounds. Same with the Brook fight, he did well but came up short. He still has time to prove himself though since he still has a lot of years left. I felt Porter beat Thurman but it was a round either way kinda fight, then again I don't necessarily think Thurman is elite either lol Thurman however has a chance to prove himself with a rematch against Porter and a fight against Spence. For Porter, I feel the ship has sailed.

Which fighters would you say are good to very good but not at the elite level but are maybe just a step below. I’d personally say Maidana, Matthysse, Peterson, Danny Garcia, Judah fit in this category. Matthysse is one of my favorite fighters but he always came up short against really tough fighters most of the time. Khan I think had a small few year window where he was considered an elite level fighter but than once he got KO’d by Garcia he’s never been the same. Using elite as a point of reference is an inferior tool. prefer the alphabet system. A-F with +/-'s eliminates your problem.

Khan had that tough night against Diaz and looked to be a bit under sized versus Algieri but in both instances his ability to punch and move showed and ultimately he was outboxing Canelo more thoroughly than anyone since Floyd before getting stopped. Now...can he still be elite 2 years later? I dunno. The nearly elite list has to include Porter, Trout, Andrade and a few others. Andrade at least has a chance to prove himself as he is still young enough. Yes, Trout is a great one. A very good fighter but just a level below the best. Porter it’s still hard to say. I personally feel he clearly lost to Thurman but it was sort of close. Porter won 4 or 5 rounds. Same with the Brook fight, he did well but came up short. He still has time to prove himself though since he still has a lot of years left.

Danny Garcia??? He's only last one fight against the unified Welterweight champ

Which fighters would you say are good to very good but not at the elite level but are maybe just a step below. I’d personally say Maidana, Matthysse, Peterson, Danny Garcia, Judah fit in this category. Matthysse is one of my favorite fighters but he always came up short against really tough fighters most of the time. Khan I think had a small few year window where he was considered an elite level fighter but than once he got KO’d by Garcia he’s never been the same. Khan had that tough night against Diaz and looked to be a bit under sized versus Algieri but in both instances his ability to punch and move showed and ultimately he was outboxing Canelo more thoroughly than anyone since Floyd before getting stopped. Now...can he still be elite 2 years later? I dunno. The nearly elite list has to include Porter, Trout, Andrade and a few others. Andrade at least has a chance to prove himself as he is still young enough.

People aren't allowed to talk bad about Golovkin and Kovalev's opponents. :lol1: oh now it makes sense, beercules is a fanboy

Canelo Alvarez GGG Danny Garcia Lara Frampton Jacobs

I love Matthysse. He's my favorite fighter but he's not elite. He's right under it.

i cant see your criticism. he made the statement, not me. so i ask the question and i still havent gotten a answer. who cares if they are golovkin and kovalev opponents bro Ok cool. Thank you for the explanation :)

fraud mayweather jr...!?!?!?

Both Golovkin and Kovalev opponents. You can see my criticism. i cant see your criticism. he made the statement, not me. so i ask the question and i still havent gotten a answer. who cares if they are golovkin and kovalev opponents bro

Adrien Broner

i'd consider cotto a level below elite with elites being floyd and pacman.

the post says anybody who fought for a title on premium cable is elite are those guys elite or not? Both Golovkin and Kovalev opponents. You can see my criticism.

Why did you name those two specifically? the post says anybody who fought for a title on premium cable is elite are those guys elite or not?

Canelo Alvarez Gennady Golovkin Sullivan Barrera Kovalev Sadam Ali Jessie Vargas Cotto I think Canelo & Golovkin are elite. Kovalev & Cotto are too. Ali it’s too early to say where he fits. Vargas I’d say fits perfectly in this category though. He’s a good solid fighter but he’s not an elite level fighter.

so dominic wade is elite? so Cedric Agnew is elite? cut it out bro Why did you name those two specifically?

If someone has fought on premium cable for a title then they are an elite fighter. You have to remember that there are literally thousands of boxers at any given time that are active and we only get to see maybe the top 5% on tv. All those fighters you listed are elite. so dominic wade is elite? so Cedric Agnew is elite? cut it out bro