Where does the myth arise from that Vasyl Lomachenko has been a weight bully?

They got rid of his weight class after his first win, he had to move up to the weight class above That's a good point and it makes Lomachenko's success appear even more impressive as a result.

Do you know he was a lightweight in the amateurs, and on his 6 professional fights before before these 10 or 11 he has now? So yes, he went from 132 to 126, and now back to 130. Soon he will be fighting at 135-140 pounds. Yes, I also know that when he was competing much earlier on in his career in the amateurs, he was competing in the 126 pounds weight division and then moved up to the 132 pounds weight division in the 2012 Olympics after the 126 pounds weight division was eliminated. Not sure what your point is though!

The only two factors that matter to determine the weight advantage a boxer has over his opponents is to check the official weigh in to ensure the boxer makes the appropriate weight and the fight night weigh in to check how much weight advantage a boxer has over his opponents during the bout itself. Firstly, Lomachenko has managed to make the official weight for every one of his bouts. Secondly, these are his fight night weight against different opponents during his actual bouts: 1) Against Jose Ramirez (his debut opponent), he weighed 129 pounds and Ramirez weighed 135 pounds. 2) Against Orlando Salido, he was significantly outweighed and there isn't any dispute about that. Salido indisputably failed to make the official weight. 3) Against Gary Russel Jr, he weighed 138 and a half pounds whilst Gary weighed 138 pounds. 4) Against Nicholas Walters, he weighed 137 pounds whilst Waters weighed 136 pounds. 5) Against Jason Sosa, he weighed 139 pounds whilst Sosa weighed 142 pounds. The only two smaller sized opponents were Rigondeaux and Marriaga who moved up in weight divisions to box against him. Otherwise, he is either outweighed by his opponents, or he outweighs his opponents by merely a pound. So how exactly is Lomachenko picking on smaller opponents and where did this myth come from? https://i.imgur.com/8EERnQE.png https://i.imgur.com/tGhgdIA.jpg https://i.imgur.com/528DwgR.jpg https://i.imgur.com/VMm28Kf.jpgDo you know he was a lightweight in the amateurs, and on his 6 professional fights before before these 10 or 11 he has now? So yes, he went from 132 to 126, and now back to 130. Soon he will be fighting at 135-140 pounds.

shaun porter fought and beat usyk in the ams. why is he now picking on welterweights!?, he needs to move up to CW ASAP ! imo he should be at 154 easy but from what I read usyk was a smaller 19 year old at middleweight in the ams at that moment or so ive read

To me, Lomachenko also looked pretty small at 126 pounds and looked much smaller in size compared to most boxers in the amateurs at the 132 pounds weight division. You do realize that Vasyl Lomachenko was also competing at a weight division below at 126 pounds / 57 KG in the 2008 Olympics before he moved up to the 132 pounds weight division in the 2012 Olympics, right? In other words, Lomachenko won 2 Olympic gold medals in two different weight divisions. Here's the proof: https://i.imgur.com/5uahYBQ.jpg https://i.imgur.com/VdUsAOI.jpg They got rid of his weight class after his first win, he had to move up to the weight class above

well didnt he fight verdejo in the ams..... and verdejo started at 130 lbs and is now at 135 lbs :dunno: just sayin' shaun porter fought and beat usyk in the ams. why is he now picking on welterweights!?, he needs to move up to CW ASAP !

well didnt he fight verdejo in the ams..... and verdejo started at 130 lbs and is now at 135 lbs :dunno: just sayin'

I don't think facts are appreciated. Probably gonna hear how HBO used fake stats, Arum paid them off or that it is indeed being a weight bully when you weigh less now for those fights.

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Andre Ward even in rehydration during fights at 168 looked too thin imo. It was only until his metabolic rate slowed did he show gains at LHW, and looked afit LHW with still incredible speed!!! Ward was at LHW in the Olympics as a sub out from the 168 spot. Shows how great Ward really was. He's badddd dude!!! ATG, first ballot HOF. To me, Lomachenko also looked pretty small at 126 pounds and looked much smaller in size compared to most boxers in the amateurs at the 132 pounds weight division. You do realize that Vasyl Lomachenko was also competing at a weight division below at 126 pounds / 57 KG in the 2008 Olympics before he moved up to the 132 pounds weight division in the 2012 Olympics, right? In other words, Lomachenko won 2 Olympic gold medals in two different weight divisions. Here's the proof: https://i.imgur.com/5uahYBQ.jpg https://i.imgur.com/VdUsAOI.jpg

That's what he gets knocked for, not cutting massive weight to stay in a weight class..... that isn't being a weight bully its fighting smaller guys. Well he isn't fighting smaller guys though as proven by the weights of himself and his opponents. Rigondeaux and Marriaga bouts were exceptions and not the norm.

Mexican bums like Chavez Jr & Canelo are true weight bullies... They cut more than 40 lbs than beat smaller & weaker opponents, but when they move up to their actual weght divions they shrink. Great Mexican 'school' of fighting (cheating)!

Floma has been fighting at 132 since 2011. It doesn't matter if there's a sam day weigh in, that means you're acknowledging draining that pros do. Floma been fighting at 135lb+ on fight nights, and even more in recent bouts. So from 126 to 135lb, what's the need to jump 10lbs? That means he's cutting weight as most boxers do. Vs a guy like Floyd who had HBO groahics showing a 1lb or 2lb boost from the weighin. It's common sense. If Floma was hitting 132 since 2011, then he could've started pro at 130lbs and gained 2lbs similar to Floyd. Instead he chose to hit 126. 4lbs Floma is willing to make a difference in his career I'm fine with... 154-168 ez fomi should be more critical....and not giving in to any other weights...but says it's easy... What's your point? Lomachenko fights opponents his own size as proven by actual evidence I've posted at a consistent basis. Pretty much every other amateur turned pro competes one weight division below what they competed in as an amateur. Including Mikey Garcia and Andre Ward. So what's your point again? What's your problem with Lomachenko competing and earning his titles at 126 and 130 pounds. Come with actual facts and proof perhaps to substantiate your points? Not baseless claims and irrelevant waffles! So until then, Lomachenko isn't a 'weight bully'!

Ok and? That's one person. That's not popular opinion here nor anywhere else. Perhaps read my whole statement next time. I said one person saying it doesn't make it popular opinion. And I haven't watched the video but he was probably talking about Loma fighting guys moving up. I wouldn't use weight bully to describe that. Weight bully is cutting extreme weight to stay in your weight class for an advantage That's what he gets knocked for, not cutting massive weight to stay in a weight class..... that isn't being a weight bully its fighting smaller guys.

People on here think the "tonight" weights are a conspiracy or something. They flat out don't believe them. List Canelo's fight night weights (he's been a fairly robust MW for years) & 90% of the responses will be **** like "Mauricio Sulaimán is known to rig the unofficial scales against Canelo, that's why they're unofficial!". People don't like data. They like to pretend everything is a mystery and stretch the conversation out. In reality weight divisions are truly meaningless because of scientific cutting tactics & those "tonight" weights are about the ONLY true knowledge we have of a fighter's size.

Who said that? Nobody is saying that. That is not popular opinion here or anywhere. Y'all gotta stop making sh*t up in your head or taking one person stupid statement and applying it to everybody Bruh..alot of people start saying that as soon as he beat Rigo. I'm in like 6 boxing groups it was alot of hating going on.

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Lalin/Mirko always on this one, constantly going on about Lomachenkos Olympic weight, told him they do same day weigh ins at the Olympics, completely ignored me and carried on his tirade through multiple threads. Come to be expected from Mirko though Yeah, that is hilarious. Same day weigh-in's so no cutting weight so fighters clearly fighting around 8-10 lbs more than they would as pro's and that was aged 24 so clearly the man's natural fighting weight is as a Featherweight.

Anybody successful is going to generate haters. If you're great at something, people who are great at nothing are going to be upset. However, there is no doubt that Top Rank's (very wise) matchmakers, have had a pattern, for decades, of targeting current or former champions from a weight class or two below when they're searching for an opponent. Especially if it's not going to be an in house fight. Weight classes exist for a reason. The best at 130 will typically dominate the best at 122. This is common sense for anybody that understands the sport. But in a business of minimizing risk and maximizing reward, it's a tactic Top Rank has used over and over. As they should. They're running a business. Until the general public is educated enough to understand how much of a difference one or two weight classes can make, this type of intelligent matchmaking is going to continue. You make a good point. Except, the actual facts (numerical value for weights) suggests that Vasyl Lomachenko, excluding his bouts against Guillermo Rigondeaux and Miguel Marriaga didn't have a significant weight advantage against any of his other opponents on fight night and didn't fail to make the appropriate official weight. On fight night, he was either outweighed by his opponents. Or he only had a marginal weight advantage, no more than 3 pounds or he and his opponents weighed the same. For one to proclaim any boxer is a 'weight bully', they must provide evidence that said boxer has a significant weight advantage over his opponents during fight night or was unable to make the official weight. Orlando Salido was a 'weight bully' against Lomachenko. Terence Crawford has been a weight bully in many of his bouts. Where I've seen him having around 10 pounds of weight advantage over his opponents during fight night.