BILLY JOE SAUNDERS had his Joe Calzaghe against Jeff Lacy' moment when he schooled David Lemieux in Montreal last week. There comes a time when every fighter with ambitions to rule their division needs to become a world star rather than just a world champion. Calzaghe's moment came when he completely outclassed big American hope Lacy in Manchester in 2006. The Welshman had ruled as WBO super-middleweight champion for seven years before that night. Click Here To Read More]
Context of what I said, there are types of ATG's. There are upper echelon ATG's there are lower echelon ATG's and then there are borderline ATG's
I think an ATG should be pretty clear cut. I don't think Zags is an ATG but he'd definitely have given some ATG's a tough fight. RJJ in comparison is a clear cut ATG.
Zags is a great fighter but not an all time great.
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Why are Brits constantly cheapening Joe's legacy by making comparisons like this? Calzaghe absolutely battered that man while suffering a broken hand. Far more impressive a victory than what BJS did.
Being a Brit myself the Calzaghe Lacy fight was good because a lot of people wrote Calzaghe off beforehand.
Personally for me the Hatton Tsuzu fight was better as I even thought Hatton was going to lose that one and it was a brilliant night for British boxing.
I can see what Frank is trying to do it's his job to big his fighters up but imo this was no where near as impressive. Yeah Lemieux is near the top of the middleweight division but clearly at least ggg, canelo and Jacobs are a level above him.
It's been good for bjs profile and is a good name on his resume but let's see how he does against the real top middleweights before getting carried away.
Also to anyone saying he's ducking Jacobs, like I always say I think most fighters would fight anybody but it would be stupid of his team to put him against Jacobs now when he could fight ggg or canelo after the rematch for **** loads of cash. The risk reward just is not there to justify it. Tbh this fight against Lemieux was a big gamble going to Canada, they aren't going to do that twice with a mega fight there to be made.
Calzaghe v lacy is the single most talked about important fight in british history, if you lend ear to a brit about boxing prepare to relive the entire night
Never spoken to a Brit about boxing in his life.
You talk so much sh1t it’s unreal. Seriously.
Just another jealous Yank tithead that can’t handle any British success. Like you think Americans somehow have a right to own all the titles in the whole of boxing.
Stop being such a jealous, ignorant, xenophobic arsehole. Every thread about a British fighter you pop up with this sh1t, and start badmouthing the fighters.
Just accept it, America isn’t the force it was. Boxing is a world game now, and the UK has a huge part to play in that, whether you like it or not.
Look at it this way, the best American fighters at the moment are GGG and Canelo. Says it all!
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You missed the reference.
WRONG I & many others have been saying from day 1 that lemule is a 1 dimensional pub brawler. I predicted that saunders would win on points convincingly but get robbed in Canada. BJS did surprise not because he proved himself by beating the elite,but rather because he surprised everyone that he isn't the washed up at 25 bum we thought he was,so lemule getting destroyed didn't surprise anyone,just the fact that bjs was in good shape & wasn't the complete bum many thought he was surprised everyone.
So its kindve like the bum that gets off the street & is now holding down a job,we don't think he's better than the guys who had never been bums off the street(canelo,ggg),hes just finally able to sit in a chair in same room as them without getting kicked out for being a stinky bum that gave up all his hopes & dreams.:lol1:
That makes no sense, but good for you.
Every time I start taking about boxing a Brit's got to pull Calzaghe-Lacy out their ass.
That's their one. That's their one.
You talk so much sh1t it’s unreal. Seriously.
Just another jealous Yank tithead that can’t handle any British success. Like you think Americans somehow have a right to own all the titles in the whole of boxing.
Stop being such a jealous, ignorant, xenophobic arsehole. Every thread about a British fighter you pop up with this sh1t, and start badmouthing the fighters.
Just accept it, America isn’t the force it was. Boxing is a world game now, and the UK has a huge part to play in that, whether you like it or not.
Look at it this way, the best American fighters at the moment are GGG and Canelo. Says it all!
Does History remember Lacy as anything other than a hypejob? He got double digit losses. HE is nothing in the grand scheme of boxing.
Calzaghe is not that great. He is an ATG but his resume is stellar over all. Lennox Lewis is greater than him.
Exactly. Easy to say that in retrospect. But I bet you weren’t thinking it at the time.
It was Joe that turned him from a future prospect into a hypejob in the first place.
Agree Calzaghe could have a better resume. Shame the top fights didn’t happen for him in his prime, who knows why. I don’t think he pushed hard enough for them but also, I don’t think he was seen as worthy enough so was never on their radar.
Calzaghe v lacy is the single most talked about important fight in british history, if you lend ear to a brit about boxing prepare to relive the entire night
Every time I start taking about boxing a Brit's got to pull Calzaghe-Lacy out their ass.
That's their one. That's their one.
Everyone already knew that Lemiuex was very limited. He already lost and had been knocked out. He got beat up but nothing too severe.
Lacy was expected to destroy Calzaghe and was touted as the next big thing. Lacy took a horrific beating and the fight probably should've been stopped after 8 rounds. Those are the kind of fights where fighters die or wind up in a coma.
Go shove a crumpet up yer arse, Warren.Lenieux took a beating at the hands of Saunders. You could argue that fight should’ve been stopped too. Roy Even said so during the live broadcast.
Calzaghe v lacy is the single most talked about important fight in british history, if you lend ear to a brit about boxing prepare to relive the entire night
I think this win brought more attention to Saunders and raised his profile for sure.
Hopefully Saunders fights again on HBO next against a solid fighter before attempting to unify with the Canelo vs GGG winner.
So that’s one Saunders win and two Calzaghe wins you can’t give any kind of credit for in that post.
Literally nobody can win a fight and get credit for it on this forum. There’s always someone like you ready to cut them down.
Kessler was a beast.
Hopkins was still a very good fighter, he had loads left in the tank and went on to have many good nights after this fight. He might have been getting on a bit, but Joe was past prime too. And yeah, it was close, but no way was it a ‘gift.’
Easy to look back now and say Lacy was a C-class hype job, but nobody was saying that beforehand.
Same with Lemieux.
WRONG I & many others have been saying from day 1 that lemule is a 1 dimensional pub brawler. I predicted that saunders would win on points convincingly but get robbed in Canada. BJS did surprise not because he proved himself by beating the elite,but rather because he surprised everyone that he isn't the washed up at 25 bum we thought he was,so lemule getting destroyed didn't surprise anyone,just the fact that bjs was in good shape & wasn't the complete bum many thought he was surprised everyone.
So its kindve like the bum that gets off the street & is now holding down a job,we don't think he's better than the guys who had never been bums off the street(canelo,ggg),hes just finally able to sit in a chair in same room as them without getting kicked out for being a stinky bum that gave up all his hopes & dreams.:lol1:
Does History remember Lacy as anything other than a hypejob? He got double digit losses. HE is nothing in the grand scheme of boxing.
Calzaghe is not that great. He is an ATG but his resume is stellar over all. Lennox Lewis is greater than him.
He's not that great but he's an ATG??? You know ATG stands for All Time Great right?
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