I'm sure they as fighters have the capabilities to asses when a fight is completely out of their hands.
Rigo would have been stopped, he knew it, we knew it. Is quitting really so crazy n a situation like that
Im fairly sure he hurt it hitting Lomas elbow when throwing to the body.
If you watch mid way though there is a point where he considering throwing the shot again, then stops halfway through and abandons the punch after that.
I agree with this
It really depends on how.
Rigo quit simply because he knew he couldn’t win. I think the criticism is deserved.
Brook quit v Spence because he had another orbital bone injury and had been told a few months earlier that particular injury can blind you after GGG give him the same injury. So I understand that.
I don't see it as a big deal. When it comes to measuring them against other greats, it goes against them but as human beings I cannot say sh*t.
There health is more important than the fruits of victory. Their health is more important than the pride that comes with victory.
I watched the fight back a few hours ago, he did seem extremely tentative after the first/second round. weird look on his face. no longer relaxed and not planted.
From then onwards i'm sure i only saw him throw one significant left hand until the end of the fight.
Im fairly sure he hurt it hitting Lomas elbow when throwing to the body.
If you watch mid way though there is a point where he considering throwing the shot again, then stops halfway through and abandons the punch after that.
Quitting is a big deal, but every fight must be taken on a case by case basis. Sometimes it’s understandable, even preferable that a fighter quit, but those cases are few and far between, in my opinion. In Rigondeaux’s case, he deserves criticism. Personally, I’m over it, but there’s no denying that what he pulled was a terrible quit-job. As others have pointed out, Rigo wasn’t sustaining any punishment at all. He quit simply because he knew he couldn’t win. Sorry, man, that goes not only against the spirit of the sport, but against the spirit of all sports.
I'm sure they as fighters have the capabilities to asses when a fight is completely out of their hands.
Rigo would have been stopped, he knew it, we knew it. Is quitting really so crazy n a situation like that
It depends. But for me, I really admired Rigo, and looked at him as a boxing God. His dominance, and his confident attitude. To see him lose like that is stunning. How he was outclassed. But to see a man who talks as much trash, quit like that, blew my mind. I was in utter shock!
I'm sure they as fighters have the capabilities to asses when a fight is completely out of their hands.
Rigo would have been stopped, he knew it, we knew it. Is quitting really so crazy n a situation like that
I don't think Loma would have stopped him, I think Loma was going easy on him and treating it as an exhibition.
I think once Rigondeaux realized he was being carried by someone who could get him out of there if he wanted too, he quit out of pride.
Rigo should have been briefed before quitting. Explained that by doing so he is committing a career suicide, no more shekels for you, are you good with this?. Quitting are viewed as cowards in boxing by general public, it's a tough tough situation, it's tantamount to being shot a thousand times. You lose respect, career will hit rock bottom, you lose trust etc .. and worst of all fans will never forget it f o r e v e r.
The simple answer is no
Fighters fight, and it's on the referee, but most importantly the fighter's trainer to look after the fighter.
A perfect example was Stevenson-Fonfara 2, with Virgil Hunter in the corner; Fonfara got nailed with a massive shot, he was able to get back to the corner, Virgil tried to get it in his psyche that he needed to buy some time, Fonfara gets blasted again, and Virgil Hunter made the call and saved him from any further punishment.
Hunter kept Fonfara in for as long as he saw that there was still fight in him, and not a punch further.
Rigondeax likely had a busted hand, but that shouldn't have stopped the fight; go back to the corner, let your trainer know (so he can keep an eye out), and fight with the rest of your tools (a stellar lead hand, his boxing brain, and even grit through a few lefts).
With his life in no real threat from a busted hand, the question came down to pain tolerance, which Rigo apparently wanted none of
There is an unwritten rule in boxing regarding this, boxers knows this themselves. So yeah they are going to get criticised if they quit, especially when their injuries are not visible to the naked eye.
That's all true but Rigo fought like a scared fighter, clinching and holding and hardly throwing a serious punch even before he quit. He didn't fight to win and he embarrassed himself.
How can he quit when he didn't even fight? If he'd quit after letting his hands go and getting hurt then maybe, but I could tell he was petrified from the moment the bell rang. Yes, we're not in a position to judge him, but he shouldn't have chosen boxing as a career if he can't stomach the thought of being hurt.
It's not that he quit, it's that he quit and didn't even try to adjust or do ****. He just sat around expecting himself to win at some point then realized he couldn't and left.
I'm sure they as fighters have the capabilities to asses when a fight is completely out of their hands.
Rigo would have been stopped, he knew it, we knew it. Is quitting really so crazy n a situation like that
Omg that ass!!!!
And no hey quit fawk them they deserve the criticism! They chose the profession and know the consequences so none of this you can’t call a fighter a poosey or a quiter because he is in the ring and you aren’t. No sh it Sherlock he chose to be a fighter I didn’t but if I did I would go out on my shield and not quit.
I can understand when an older fighter who has a lot of mileage quits. It is understandable, but not prime young fighters. And I don't classify Rigo as an old fighter with a lot of mileage on him. I recall when Camacho Jr quit on HBO. He was supposed to be an up and coming great 2nd gen fighter and quitting ruined his career.
True. Rigo might be hurt last night. IDK. Was he really injured?
I watched the fight back a few hours ago, he did seem extremely tentative after the first/second round. weird look on his face. no longer relaxed and not planted.
From then onwards i'm sure i only saw him throw one significant left hand until the end of the fight.
it's pretty easy to say when you're not in there getting your brain rattled and body shocked from punishment. Also, playing high school basketball is nothing like combat where your life is at stake.
True. Rigo might be hurt last night. IDK. Was he really injured?
I am not a pro boxer. But If I am a pro boxer I would definitely go out on my shield, and throw everything in my arsenal even If I am going to get KO.
This is like playing basketball against some stacked teams. Back in HS out team was being led by as much as 30 points in the first half.
We had a great run in the 2nd half. And We were able to pulled a major upset because we applied the full court press until the end of the game.
it's pretty easy to say when you're not in there getting your brain rattled and body shocked from punishment. We all want to believe we are some great warriors who'd go out like Orlando Salido. Also, playing high school basketball is nothing like combat where your life is at stake.
I get why he did it but it still leaves a bad taste in my mouth. We expect world class fighters to go out on their shield, he said fck this noise Im about to get stretched out and quit. Whatever he does from now on that wont be forgotten just like Duran quitting against SRL.
I'm sure they as fighters have the capabilities to asses when a fight is completely out of their hands.
Rigo would have been stopped, he knew it, we knew it. Is quitting really so crazy n a situation like that
I am not a pro boxer. But If I am a pro boxer I would definitely go out on my shield, and throw everything in my arsenal even If I am going to get KO.
This is like playing basketball against some stacked teams. Back in HS our team was being led by as much as 30 points in the first half.
We had a great run in the 2nd half. And We were able to pulled a major upset because we applied the full court press until the end of the game.