He can give it... but he can't take it.
Can't fight when things aren't going his way.
He folded the very first time he faced any adversity in the ring.
Lomachenko forced him into a fight and he didn't want any part of that.
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You said this "Rigo has fought taller men than Loma and had no trouble hitting them"
If you read my comment, I said that every small guy is not going to be the "smaller quicker man" Every fighter isnt the same. Some stylistic match ups with have a small quick guy beating up a big slow robot fighter. But you may have a tall fast guy, beating down a small slow fighter.
Whatever bigger guys Rigo faced, were big, and slow. I dont think Loma was quicker than Rigo. I think they are about equal. But with that size difference, as the saying goes "A great big man will beat a great little man"
Like Pac Margarita. Pac was the smaller quicker guy while Margarita was the bigger slower man. But like Ray vs Duran, Ray was the taller faster guy, while Duran was flatfooted, slow, little man.
So every small guy is not flatout faster than the big people they face. Every specific fighter is completely different.
You seem to have a problem processing information. Read your posts. You have switched from "Rigo couldn't hit Loma because Loma was too tall" to "Rigo couldn't hit Loma because Loma was too fast"
Rigo is 37. That's old for a bantamweight. Imo, Rigo's age, him being slightly slower than he used to be, was more of a factor than Loma's size.
Loma is only 3 inches taller than Rigo, with a 2 inch shorter reach. Rigo has fought taller men than Loma and had no trouble hitting them.
I see you have a problem receiving information.
You said this "Rigo has fought taller men than Loma and had no trouble hitting them"
If you read my comment, I said that every small guy is not going to be the "smaller quicker man" Every fighter isnt the same. Some stylistic match ups with have a small quick guy beating up a big slow robot fighter. But you may have a tall fast guy, beating down a small slow fighter.
Whatever bigger guys Rigo faced, were big, and slow. I dont think Loma was quicker than Rigo. I think they are about equal. But with that size difference, as the saying goes "A great big man will beat a great little man"
Like Pac Margarita. Pac was the smaller quicker guy while Margarita was the bigger slower man. But like Ray vs Duran, Ray was the taller faster guy, while Duran was flatfooted, slow, little man.
So every small guy is not flatout faster than the big people they face. Every specific fighter is completely different.
Every smaller man is not faster. Every bigger man is not slower. If you have a big slow guy, then yea a small quick guy can beat them up. If you have two guys that are just about equal in footspeed, but one guy is that much taller and longer, the smaller guy is not going to ever get close enough to do anything.
From the opening round, Rigo was too short and stubby imo. Had nothing to do with wearing down or anything. And because of the size difference, Loma can see everything a mile away. In close, Loma was too big as well. Rigo couldnt get his hands close enough
Loma is only 3 inches taller than Rigo, with a 2 inch shorter reach. Rigo has fought taller men than Loma and had no trouble hitting them.
Size does make a difference, but it typically starts to count later in a fight. Early on, the smaller man is usually faster and more mobile, and it takes the bigger man a few rounds to wear him down and take over.
Loma dominated Rigo from the second round on, and he didn't do it by wearing him down, he did it with with superior speed and skill.
I think Rigo's age and inactivity handicapped him more than Loma's size.
Every smaller man is not faster. Every bigger man is not slower. If you have a big slow guy, then yea a small quick guy can beat them up. If you have two guys that are just about equal in footspeed, but one guy is that much taller and longer, the smaller guy is not going to ever get close enough to do anything.
From the opening round, Rigo was too short and stubby imo. Had nothing to do with wearing down or anything. And because of the size difference, Loma can see everything a mile away. In close, Loma was too big as well. Rigo couldnt get his hands close enough
They absolutely should bring back same day weigh ins and scoring round that are even as even rounds but you know they never will. As long as Loma can make 130 under the current rules there is no reason he shouldn't fight at 130 if he wants to. Almost all pro boxers weigh much more in the ring than they do at the weigh in these days. Blame the stupid rules but don't blame boxers like Loma who follow those rules because they have done nothing wrong. Rigo asked for this fight and said the weight was no problem and would not be an excuse for him losing. Loma just gave him what he asked for. Loma said he will fight at 135 from now on anyway.
Same day weigh in's will probably produce better fights! Just imagine if Usain Bolt or Basketball players had to weight drain themselves the day before competition? (Staying around your fight weight, was one of the reason's why fighters such as Bernard Hopkins and Floyd Mayweather had so much longevity etc).....
Even at 41 years of age, Floyd Mayweather bullied Conor Mcgregor who i presume? Cut 15-20 pounds in weight to make 154.....
Great point. One thing I have began to learn is that when slick fighters, who are known for outclassing and humiliating opponents, receive the same treatment, they fold.
He has never in his life been dominated, outboxed, or even knew that it was possible. I mean from the Am's, to the pros, he never seen anything like this. And I dont think Loma is way better or anything. Loma was just the longer, rangier, fighter. Size can make a huge difference. If they were the exact same size, Rigo may have been too fast and instinctive for Loma.
But Rigo may commit suicide after this whipping. From the ams, he never seen anything like this. Missing, getting hit accurately, being frustrated, and forced to quit. This has to be a nightmare for him.
Size does make a difference, but it typically starts to count later in a fight. Early on, the smaller man is usually faster and more mobile, and it takes the bigger man a few rounds to wear him down and take over.
Loma dominated Rigo from the second round on, and he didn't do it by wearing him down, he did it with with superior speed and skill.
I think Rigo's age and inactivity handicapped him more than Loma's size.
I have to agree. The night of the fight, after Rigo quit, I called it “the bully effect.” Rigondeaux has always been better than everyone he’s faced. He’s gone down before, but obviously that didn’t make his opponents better. He was able to get up and punish the opposition. It seems clear to me now that Rigo's okay with fighting someone inferior, but not someone who’s got the edge. I believe Rigo was convinced he was better than Lomo going into the fight, but the moment contact was made, he realized he was in over his head. Before the fight Rigondeaux said of himself, “It’s one thing to call the devil’s name; it’s another thing when he appears.” How ironic, because that’s exactly what wound up happening to him.
Pretty much.
He can give it... but he can't take it.
Yes. 100% agree. He could have been DQ'd well before the stoppage came. The referee ignored so much to try let a good fight unfold.
Rigondeaux looked scarily bumtastic. I don't think I've ever seen a worse case of holding. Made worse by Lomachenko making it obvious and dragging his arms free. There was no intelligence just shameless hugging repeatedly.
Also hitting on the break, pushing, dirty tactics. People say stuff about Andre Ward, but Rigondeaux took it to a whole nother level. He got completely exposed.
Rigondeaux has been a very good fighter in his time. But Lomachenko is definately elite.
Flash knockdowns in fights that he was otherwise controlling. He never faced adversity in the ring before.
He grew up in Cuba. Trust me, he faced adversity in the ring.
I have to agree. The night of the fight, after Rigo quit, I called it “the bully effect.” Rigondeaux has always been better than everyone he’s faced. He’s gone down before, but obviously that didn’t make his opponents better. He was able to get up and punish the opposition. It seems clear to me now that Rigo's okay with fighting someone inferior, but not someone who’s got the edge. I believe Rigo was convinced he was better than Lomo going into the fight, but the moment contact was made, he realized he was in over his head. Before the fight Rigondeaux said of himself, “It’s one thing to call the devil’s name; it’s another thing when he appears.” How ironic, because that’s exactly what wound up happening to him.
It took Loma 3 rounds to figure him out
3? he had him by late in the first. he got rigo to throw all his punches and after that it was a wrap. he knew exactly where to stand so he could hit rigo and rigo couldnt hit him. and then he just hit rigo a lot and it was over
He can give it... but he can't take it.
Can't fight when things aren't going his way.
He folded the very first time he faced any adversity in the ring.
Lomachenko forced him into a fight and he didn't want any part of that.
Great point. One thing I have began to learn is that when slick fighters, who are known for outclassing and humiliating opponents, receive the same treatment, they fold.
He has never in his life been dominated, outboxed, or even knew that it was possible. I mean from the Am's, to the pros, he never seen anything like this. And I dont think Loma is way better or anything. Loma was just the longer, rangier, fighter. Size can make a huge difference. If they were the exact same size, Rigo may have been too fast and instinctive for Loma.
But Rigo may commit suicide after this whipping. From the ams, he never seen anything like this. Missing, getting hit accurately, being frustrated, and forced to quit. This has to be a nightmare for him.
He can give it... but he can't take it.
Can't fight when things aren't going his way.
He folded the very first time he faced any adversity in the ring.
Lomachenko forced him into a fight and he didn't want any part of that.
Rigondeax was a 37 year old man (possibly older), who jumped up two weight classes to fight a stellar fighter.
Lomachenko is basically peaking right now; could you earnestly envision him going to 140 and fighting Terence Crawford?
Loma really whooped his ass is what happened lol
Rigo just couldn't get started
Loma totally swarmed and overwhelmed Rigo
And Rigo did not help his career by just packing it in half way through the fight
Good for his health
Bad for legacy
He did not know what to do once he was figured out (which was basically seconds into the fight)
It took Loma 3 rounds to figure him out
He was definitely outclassed
By a younger bigger fighter two weightclasses above him. Loma didn’t give himself credit and nor should he. He looked great best bully win, better than canelo making khan go up Better than ggg making brook go up and better than Floyd making jmm go up two weight classes
Loma really whooped his ass is what happened lol
Rigo just couldn't get started
Loma totally swarmed and overwhelmed Rigo
And Rigo did not help his career by just packing it in half way through the fight
Good for his health
Bad for legacy
He did not know what to do once he was figured out (which was basically seconds into the fight)
he just isn't as god as advertised. he isn't that versatile besides his hard left hand and excellent footwork. But it's easy to do circles around punching bags.
They need to bring same day weigh in's back! Lamochenko should not really be fighting at that weight class.They absolutely should bring back same day weigh ins and scoring round that are even as even rounds but you know they never will. As long as Loma can make 130 under the current rules there is no reason he shouldn't fight at 130 if he wants to. Almost all pro boxers weigh much more in the ring than they do at the weigh in these days. Blame the stupid rules but don't blame boxers like Loma who follow those rules because they have done nothing wrong. Rigo asked for this fight and said the weight was no problem and would not be an excuse for him losing. Loma just gave him what he asked for. Loma said he will fight at 135 from now on anyway.
Rigo did very little fighting and a hell of a lot of holding and clinching. He offered so little resistance and was badly outclassed and he quit when he could have continued. I am very disappointed with him and I used to think so highly of him.