Eddie Hearn gave some explanation as to why Anthony Joshua won't put pen to paper on an immediate clash with Deontay Wilder recently, when the Matchroom promoter appeared on Spencer Fearon's podcast. Hearn confirmed that Wilder is requesting 50% split and refusing to budge on the offer.
The video, uploaded by Behind The Gloves to YouTube, shows Hearn addressing Wilder directly and stating once Joseph Parker is out of the way, he's next.
Wilder's trainer Jay Deas, speaking exclusively to World Boxing News, believes Hearn is sending mixed messages about Joshua's real desire to face the American.
"I'm glad it's finally public, open and out there for the world to see who wants the fight and who doesn't," Deas told World Boxing News.
"Eddie says, 'We're here. We're waiting for you. Let's go...but first...(we face Parker)'. Which in my minds translates to: 'We want no part of Wilder right now even though the fans want and deserve it. We are the problem, not Wilder. We're the ones holding this up!'
"Fighters have a lot of power. Especially Joshua, who could tell Hearn to - make the Wilder fight immediately - and it would happen. I hope he does this for all the fans.
"As for Deontay, he's ready now! The holder of the most prestigious belt (WBC) in all of boxing is ready, willing and able to lay it on the line immediately.
"Why isn't the other side," he asked.
It seems a clash with Parker is close to finalization, potentially even this weekend, leaving Wilder staring at another meaningless defense in his pursuit to unify.
Compatriot Dominic Breazeale, who has some previous beef with Wilder, could now come to the fore, although Joshua remains the number one target as and when the Briton accepts the challenge.
'The Bronze Bomber' proved just how dangerous he could be when blasting out Bermane Stiverne in just one round on November 4, and like Joshua has knocked out every single opponent he's ever faced.
Wilder isnt going to get 40%
Hes not even going to get 35%
He will be lucky to get 30, thats going to mean joshua taking a paycut, to overpay deontays worth.
He WONT accept that amount because this is his cash out.
Wilders entire career has been built towards one big cash out payday, THATS why the fight isnt going to happen because he's not going to get paid anywhere near what he dillusionally thinks hes worth.
He's had 9 years to fight decent opponents, build a profile, unify with one if the other champs.
He hasnt done any of that, now joshua is going to be WBA IBF WBO IBO champion, already makes over 10x what wilder does, and wilders lone trinket aint getting him anywhere even close to a 50% deal
Its that simple
lol..ok UK fanboy....
just last week the joshua fanboys said wilder wasnt worth/going to get 10 mil...now you have hearn saying he turned it down
u UK fanboys are all the same...ur no different than the antiward/pro kova boys...the anti canelo/pro ggg guys...you will all end up falling in line with them....making excuses again
cant wait
oh wait...youve already started lol
Pretty obvious neither side wants the fight next. Hearn has been pretty open and honest about always wanting the the fight later in 2018 after Parker, his stance hasn't changed on this one bit.
Wilder and his team have been doing nothing but be deceitful in their desire to want the fight next. Fact is if they want the fight next then they have to convince Hearn that it's worth his while to change his plans. Which of course means under cutting Parker's split. But of course Wilder and Finkel demand 50% which is their way of ducking the fight for now.
Then of course you have Finkel asking for Wilder to be guaranteed a shot at Joshua if they fight Whyte, which Finkel initially refused saying they wanted Joshua now, not Whyte. But Hearns clarifies it's a separate offer not linked to Joshua, Finkel then demands for the very thing he initially rejected asking for Joshua to be guaranteed if they fight Whyte. Hearn agrees and says they can have Joshua guaranteed if they fight Whyte and now we suddenly have Finkel and team Wilder all quiet about a Whyte fight and back to the we want Joshua now not Whyte. Flip flop much?
Hearn is now being reported to have offered Wilder £10 mill for Joshua which is currently worth $13.4 mill but refused it still demanding 50/50. So along with the Whyte fight Wilder could be making $17.4 mill minimum for 2 fights but will probably fight someone like Breazeale next for $1-1.4 mill, lol.
Parker definitely is less threatening than Wilder but i'm pretty sure that he wants Wilder in 2018 too. Hearn's talked about Joshua telling him that he wants to be unified champion next year and thus he simply won't have a choice but to deliver that; both due to fan pressure and due to pressure from Joshua himself.
Granted though Hearn would have had discussions with Wilder at the same time as Parker as it would be stupid not to but the moment Parker's team showed them to be a bit more desperate Hearn was inevitably going to zero in on that fight considering he's all about making money.
so its ok for hearn to be about making money
cept most of the same people giving them a pass for that were mad at canelo alvarez and his people for doing the same
yeah it does seem as if it will be AJ who gets parker.....
and quite frankly i think thats what hearn wants...parker is the less threatning no matter what ur opinion of wilder is....i think we can all agree on that....i believe hearn wants parker and then wilder some time in 2019
which makes is strange that hes out here trying to tell people wilder turned down such and such a figure....
its just a load of crap when u want one fight, and maybe want the other down the line, yet you stand there acting like you want that one u really want down the line right now...it happens alot in boxing...but its not a good look and its annoying
Parker definitely is less threatening than Wilder but i'm pretty sure that he wants Wilder in 2018 too. Hearn's talked about Joshua telling him that he wants to be unified champion next year and thus he simply won't have a choice but to deliver that; both due to fan pressure and due to pressure from Joshua himself.
Granted though Hearn would have had discussions with Wilder at the same time as Parker as it would be stupid not to but the moment Parker's team showed them to be a bit more desperate Hearn was inevitably going to zero in on that fight considering he's all about making money.
Either / or really, but does seem like it'll be AJ that fights him.
Parker is obviously a lot more amenable (just look how Higgins has gone from 50-50 to 40-60 to 35-65 split) as he's got really no following at all and thus is a much easier unification fight to make that will in turn make it easier for Hearn to negotiate with Wilder afterwards for the full unification.
In short i'm saying that fighting Parker before Wilder is a sound negotiating tactic by either guy to both make the Wilder v Joshua fight as big as it could possibly be and to make whoever faces Parker even more cash due to the additional belt in negotiations.
Tis why i'm happy enough to see Joshua v Parker, even if it's Joshua v Wilder that I really want to happen.
yeah it does seem as if it will be AJ who gets parker.....
and quite frankly i think thats what hearn wants...parker is the less threatning no matter what ur opinion of wilder is....i think we can all agree on that....i believe hearn wants parker and then wilder some time in 2019
which makes is strange that hes out here trying to tell people wilder turned down such and such a figure....
its just a load of crap when u want one fight, and maybe want the other down the line, yet you stand there acting like you want that one u really want down the line right now...it happens alot in boxing...but its not a good look and its annoying
what exactly are you implying about parker
that AJ should fight him or wilder should fight him?
hasnt hearn and AJ mentioned parker quite a bit and even had talks with them too?
Either / or really, but does seem like it'll be AJ that fights him.
Parker is obviously a lot more amenable (just look how Higgins has gone from 50-50 to 40-60 to 35-65 split) as he's got really no following at all and thus is a much easier unification fight to make that will in turn make it easier for Hearn to negotiate with Wilder afterwards for the full unification.
In short i'm saying that fighting Parker before Wilder is a sound negotiating tactic by either guy to both make the Wilder v Joshua fight as big as it could possibly be and to make whoever faces Parker even more cash due to the additional belt in negotiations.
Tis why i'm happy enough to see Joshua v Parker, even if it's Joshua v Wilder that I really want to happen.
Honestly I think you're getting too hung up on the 'formal offer'... even if these talks aren't just spin and are real the formal offer is still going to be one of the last things to happen. In fact you could equally argue that sending a formal offer early in discussions is just as much spin/damage control because promoters can say "well we sent them an offer" when they know it won't be accepted because the terms aren't suitable.
Hearn and all other promoters undoubtedly talk a lot of bollocks because their job is to promote and sometimes that's much easier to do when you're ignoring the truth... but we've heard from Wilder that he wants 50/50 and Deas there completely blanked that part of Hearn's 'statement' which to me is enough of an indication to believe that Wilder probably is pricing himself out at the moment. That's not to say he doesn't want the fight, just that he believes he's worth X amount and won't fight without that.
In those kinds of situations you need to bring something else to the table to kickstart negotiations again, which is exactly what Parker's WBO belt and the lure of literally being 1 victory away from being the undisputed unified heavyweight champion will do.
what exactly are you implying about parker
that AJ should fight him or wilder should fight him?
hasnt hearn and AJ mentioned parker quite a bit and even had talks with them too?
im willing to be reasonable..im one of the most resonable...i give everyone a fair chance....
but you remember how everyone was accusing ggg of ducking lara right? then after a bunch of backlash k2 decided to call laras manager and start "prelim" talks...which lead to a bunch of nothing and no formal deal being offered or sent
prelim "talks" can lead to a fight...or they can be spin/damage control depending on how you look at it.......hearn could go say he sat down in a room in NY and act like he tried when in reality he didnt.....we saw arum pull this tactic for years with floyd mayweather while he was milking manny before the huge cashout.......
Honestly I think you're getting too hung up on the 'formal offer'... even if these talks aren't just spin and are real the formal offer is still going to be one of the last things to happen. In fact you could equally argue that sending a formal offer early in discussions is just as much spin/damage control because promoters can say "well we sent them an offer" when they know it won't be accepted because the terms aren't suitable.
Hearn and all other promoters undoubtedly talk a lot of bollocks because their job is to promote and sometimes that's much easier to do when you're ignoring the truth... but we've heard from Wilder that he wants 50/50 and Deas there completely blanked that part of Hearn's 'statement' which to me is enough of an indication to believe that Wilder probably is pricing himself out at the moment. That's not to say he doesn't want the fight, just that he believes he's worth X amount and won't fight without that.
In those kinds of situations you need to bring something else to the table to kickstart negotiations again, which is exactly what Parker's WBO belt and the lure of literally being 1 victory away from being the undisputed unified heavyweight champion will do.
Almost all deals are agreed in principle verbally before a written contract is sent over because it is much easier to discuss something than it is to amend a document repeatedly.
Anyway, seems like you're completely unwilling to be reasonable so i'm out of this discussion. Get back to me when you're able to talk like a mature adult.
im willing to be reasonable..im one of the most resonable...i give everyone a fair chance....
but you remember how everyone was accusing ggg of ducking lara right? then after a bunch of backlash k2 decided to call laras manager and start "prelim" talks...which lead to a bunch of nothing and no formal deal being offered or sent
prelim "talks" can lead to a fight...or they can be spin/damage control depending on how you look at it.......hearn could go say he sat down in a room in NY and act like he tried when in reality he didnt.....we saw arum pull this tactic for years with floyd mayweather while he was milking manny before the huge cashout.......
Another day, another pile of sh1t from team wilder. I predicted weeks ago that wilder would price himself out and keep shouting his mouth off and that is exactly what has happened. Just fight brezeale and let AJ take the risks.
discussing a fight preliminarily and sending a formal offer are two completely different things....you imbecile.....
remember when ggg was being accused of ducking lara...and finally after all the call outs and backlash k2 finally sat down with laras manager to preliminarily discuss a fight....but no formal offer was ever made...does that a ring a bell to you?
you can sit down and discuss things ....but where is the formal offer? did hearn say he sent a contract offer? or did he just say "wilder wouldnt take 10 mil" ? LOL
Almost all deals are agreed in principle verbally before a written contract is sent over because it is much easier to discuss something than it is to amend a document repeatedly.
Anyway, seems like you're completely unwilling to be reasonable so i'm out of this discussion. Get back to me when you're able to talk like a mature adult.
Wilder thinks he's worth 50%, yet has no clue as to why his phone isn't ringing off the hook. I guess when you think you are worth that much to begin with, you are obviously delusional.
"Hearn confirmed that Wilder is requesting 50% split and refusing to budge on the offer. "
Of course Wilder isn't going to come in and say what he's willing to accept and will always come in higher... but in a negotiation you come in higher and lower your demands yet from what we've heard Wilder is unwilling to do so.
Nice try with the'there's no offer and nothing to discuss' by the way... considering Hearn Sr met up with Finkel the other week to discuss the Joshua-Wilder fight and Eddie Hearn met with Haymon/Dibella to discuss the Joshua'Wilder fight when he was in NY last month then that's clearly a moronic statement.
discussing a fight preliminarily and sending a formal offer are two completely different things....you imbecile.....
remember when ggg was being accused of ducking lara...and finally after all the call outs and backlash k2 finally sat down with laras manager to preliminarily discuss a fight....but no formal offer was ever made...does that a ring a bell to you?
you can sit down and discuss things ....but where is the formal offer? did hearn say he sent a contract offer? or did he just say "wilder wouldnt take 10 mil" ? LOL
all the talk of wilders split and wilder wanting 50/50 means absolute jack ****....until hearn makes an offer
you idiots like use excuses that make no sense when they are convenient for you
if wilder will take 35 percent why would he announce it from the jump if he think he can squeeze 40 percent possibly? you idiots know nothing about negotiation or finance....which isnt suprising to me...most of you are broke, deadbeat, idiots
wilders not going to come out and say "ok guys heres my bottom line give me that and its cool".....
until hearn, who is likely going to host the fight, makes wilder an offer than anything wilder says in regards to his demands or desired purses means absolutely nothing
i know thats a hard concept for you morons to grasp...if there is no offer there is no point to negotiate
"Hearn confirmed that Wilder is requesting 50% split and refusing to budge on the offer. "
Of course Wilder isn't going to come in and say what he's willing to accept and will always come in higher... but in a negotiation you come in higher and lower your demands yet from what we've heard Wilder is unwilling to do so.
Nice try with the'there's no offer and nothing to discuss' by the way... considering Hearn Sr met up with Finkel the other week to discuss the Joshua-Wilder fight and Eddie Hearn met with Haymon/Dibella to discuss the Joshua'Wilder fight when he was in NY last month then that's clearly a moronic statement as there have been reported ongoing discussions between both teams.
Nice to see Deas totally skirt the very, very minor issue of money.
If Deontay is ready to fight immediately maybe he should come down on his split to get the fight over the line? I'm guessing he's only 'ready immediately' if he's getting all the cash he wants though?
all the talk of wilders split and wilder wanting 50/50 means absolute jack ****....until hearn makes an offer
you idiots like use excuses that make no sense when they are convenient for you
if wilder will take 35 percent why would he announce it from the jump if he think he can squeeze 40 percent possibly? you idiots know nothing about negotiation or finance....which isnt suprising to me...most of you are broke, deadbeat, idiots
wilders not going to come out and say "ok guys heres my bottom line give me that and its cool".....
until hearn, who is likely going to host the fight, makes wilder an offer than anything wilder says in regards to his demands or desired purses means absolutely nothing
i know thats a hard concept for you morons to grasp...if there is no offer there is no point to negotiate
Nice to see Deas totally skirt the very, very minor issue of money.
If Deontay is ready to fight immediately maybe he should come down on his split to get the fight over the line? I'm guessing he's only 'ready immediately' if he's getting all the cash he wants though?