Floyd Mayweather Jr's weakness is the extended lead hand - stiff arm stance / style

http://media.tumblr.com/c7afa32d061064b663532547f30ca603/tumblr_inline_mryw2dzT4Z1qz4rgp.gif 1st mma/ufc match 2008 fought may 2017 enough fncking experience to fight a non active 40 y/o. whoever picked mcb to win was a fool. if the cvnt, whos been fighting for a decade, cant get his shlt together stamina wise, fnck him. he sparred with paulina and im sure he was in mcbeggars ear about how may do. again, it wasnt a 4rd fight. can NEVER say mcbeggar ''won'' because he did work for 4 rds. it pains me to explain that may would have absolutely ended mcb if it were a 4rd fight. no question. may, being the smartest non reader in the game, knew he had all night to tcb.....and he did. i wanted you to have the last words ONLY BECAUSE i hate circular debates (aka yes/no sessions). you are not dealing with a full deck if you think mcb stood a chance at beating may in any boxing scenario you conjure up. so again, i will concede the last words to you, due to it going nowhere. Again, none of that is evidence that McGregor was more prepared for his professional boxing debut as much as Floyd Mayweather Jr was for his professional boxing debut (unless you're implying that MMA experience prepares one more for professional boxing than amateur boxing experience does). 40 year old Floyd Mayweather Jr was inactive for 2 years? Guess what? Connor McGregor was totally inactive from professional boxing altogether. As in, it was his debut. How difficult is that to understand? Are you seriously trying to argue that one of the best boxers of his era at the age of 40 with just 2 years of layoff is going to be at a bigger disadvantage than an MMA fighter making his professional boxing debut? if yes, feel free to explain how such is the case. So no! McGregor didn't have enoug he experience to compete against Floyd Mayweather Jr. In fact, it is the opposite. It was Floyd Mayweather Jr who was more prepared to beat McGregor than vice versa. Since having first professional boxing bout ever in one's debut puts one at a bigger disadvantage than someone who is one of the best professional boxers of their era, with just 2 years layoff at age 40. That's because the latter still has experience whilst the former has 0 experience. Also, I never claimed it was a 4 round bout. Instead, my argument was that McGregor did just as well, if not better in the first 4 rounds against Floyd Mayweather Jr (considering the circumstances) as Floyd Mayweather JR did in the first 4 rounds of his own debut match against Roberto Apocdaca. Since we get to judge Mayweather in his debut bout by a 4 round criteria. To be objective, I'm doing the same with Connor McGregor in his own debut bout.

http://media.tumblr.com/c7afa32d061064b663532547f30ca603/tumblr_inline_mryw2dzT4Z1qz4rgp.gif 1st mma/ufc match 2008 fought may 2017 enough fncking experience to fight a non active 40 y/o. whoever picked mcb to win was a fool. if the cvnt, whos been fighting for a decade, cant get his shlt together stamina wise, fnck him. he sparred with paulina and im sure he was in mcbeggars ear about how may do. again, it wasnt a 4rd fight. can NEVER say mcbeggar ''won'' because he did work for 4 rds. it pains me to explain that may would have absolutely ended mcb if it were a 4rd fight. no question. may, being the smartest non reader in the game, knew he had all night to tcb.....and he did. i wanted you to have the last words ONLY BECAUSE i hate circular debates (aka yes/no sessions). you are not dealing with a full deck if you think mcb stood a chance at beating may in any boxing scenario you conjure up. so again, i will concede the last words to you, due to it going nowhere. Gangbangz is like a ****roach. Annoying as hell and ain't going nowhere. Just when you think you've debunked whatever crazy idea he came up with he'll keep coming back with his BS.

everyone knows Mayweathers weaknesses - SMother him with a volume of punches...why? Because he is often too stationary and likes to take punches on his arms and shoulders, rather than making opponents miss like Ali or Whitaker. A fighter with that style always fears combination punchers with power, it's why he avoided the best combination punchers in and around his division, Pac, Marg, Cotto etc. It is also why he struggled against DLH, Cotto (past prime), Castillo and funnily enough, the likes of Maidana and Judah.

sigh......the only thing different from mcbeggars ''debut'' was the lack of kicking and other assorted street level shlt. if you want to convince yourself he was a fighting neophyte, have at it and leave me out of it. i dont care how many paragraphs you type, mcbeggar was no ordinary novice. have the last wordS. In relative terms (comparing Mayweather Jr's professional boxing debut to Connor McGregor's professional boxing debut), McGregor was more 'ordinary' and 'neophyte' if compared to Floyd Mayweather Jr when he made his professional boxing debut. Mayweather at least had amateur boxing experience prior to debuting in pro boxing. On the other hand, McGregor didn't have anywhere near the same preparation to prepare himself for pro boxing (unless you're seriously trying to imply that MMA prepares one for professional boxing more than amateur boxing does). You probably know I'm correct and that you don't have much of a ground to stand on to support your argument. Thus conceding the argument altogether by stating 'have the last words'.

There's no argument to be made. Mayweather was fighting a joke of a fight against a UFC fighter. He didn't use half of his boxing skills. He was in zero danger. You honestly can't think he would fight the same way against an actual boxer. There was nothing impressive about what McGregor did. He had a little success, got tired, and had to be saved by the ref. This bad stylistic matchup didn't present itself in 49 other fights and when it did Mayweather did what he had to do. If McGregor style was going so well why didn't he continue having success all the way until he got tired? Mayweather figured him out just like he would whoever this mythical boxer would be. Yes, there is an argument to be made because Floyd Mayweather Jr has never in his professional boxing career boxed against an opponent using the style which the likes of Lennox Lewis employ with an extended lead hand stance. Connor McGregor was the first opponent Mayweather faced using this style. So claiming 'no argument to be made because Mayweather could indisputably deal with such a style' is giving Mayweather credit for feats he never accomplished. In other words, it becomes 'fanboyism'. How is it not impressive for Connor McGregor to be able to win more rounds during the first four rounds in his professional boxing debut match against Floyd Mayweather Jr, who is one of the best boxers of his generation? Especially when the same Floyd Mayweather Jr debuted with a 4 round bout himself against a bum, instead of an ATG. I'm not even a Connor McGregor fan but to claim what he did against Floyd Mayweather Jr in his professional boxing debut as unimpressive is literally dismissive of actual special feats. Otherwise, how many other athletes from other sports or specifically combat sports debuted in professional boxing immediately in a 12 round bout against an ATG boxer and were ahead after the first 4 rounds? If you can't find any, then you must be forced to concede that what McGregor did was 'impressive' because it's an unmatched feat. If we actually evaluate both McGregor and Mayweather by the same standard, McGregor beat Mayweather in his professional debut (was ahead on the score cards after 4 rounds) the same way Floyd Mayweather Jr himself beat his debut opponent in his 4 round match against Roberto Apodaca. Difference is, McGregor debuted immediately with a 12 round contest whilst Mayweather debuted with a 4 round contest. Also, Mayweather's success ultimately came when McGregor became tired due to lack of conditioning for boxing. Connor McGregor was having success until fatigue became a factor.

I didn't claim that longer arms are all that was needed. Rather, it was a combination of having longer arms + using the style that Connor McGregor / Wladimir Klitschko use + being an elite boxer. Being the best of an era (which I agree with by the way) doesn't make Floyd Mayweather Jr immune to having bad stylistic match up problems. Good that we can agree with the fact that McGregor won the early rounds. I understand that it was irrelevant by the context of the entire bout if we're just focusing on the outcome. However, if we focus on stylistic match up between the two in terms of the advantages and disadvantages which both boxer's styles pose, then it surely does have a lot of relevance. That was my point! In the early rounds, when stamina wasn't a factor, McGregor's style gave Mayweather many problems. The thing that was impressive about McGregor was the fact that it was his debut bout against the best boxer of his generation and how he performed in that bout. Even though Mayweather may have been 41 years of age and may have been the smaller sized boxer. It was Connor McGregor's debut boxing bout. So Mayweather's disadvantages are neutralized by Connor McGregor's own disadvantages. I personally think the idea behind this thread is good because it is debatable. That's the whole point of having discussions. If you think Mayweather can beat the type of boxer I proposed, then you're just as entitled to that opinion as I am to mine. However, if you are able to provide good enough arguments, then I can learn something and perhaps change my view. There's no argument to be made. Mayweather was fighting a joke of a fight against a UFC fighter. He didn't use half of his boxing skills. He was in zero danger. You honestly can't think he would fight the same way against an actual boxer. There was nothing impressive about what McGregor did. He had a little success, got tired, and had to be saved by the ref. This bad stylistic matchup didn't present itself in 49 other fights and when it did Mayweather did what he had to do. If McGregor style was going so well why didn't he continue having success all the way until he got tired? Mayweather figured him out just like he would whoever this mythical boxer would be.

Whoever says Mayweather was dominated for the first 4 needs to actually watch some 12 rounder fights rather than just youtube or instagram boxing highlights. Like many friends here, watching the fight I also saw what 2 years lay off and 41 Floyd was thinking: "It's a 12 rounder, I'm Money Mayweather, I want KO; this Connor guy has huge weight, height and reach advantage but bad conditioning compared to me. So I'm gonna tire him out to pave the way for KO." If you watch the fight with this notion you'll realize Floyd first tested his power and roughed him and then constantly shot to the body with straight right to drain his breath, to break him down. And it paid off. You saw Floyd started to land big from the 4th on. He could box this guy easily had he not wanted a KO, he sacrificed defence for offence and took some shots naturally. Connor is shiddy, only reason he stood there was his size, no greatness or skill. After 10 years Floyd got a KO, with little power left in him.

semantics = lame excuse mcbeggars 1st ''proper'' fight, NOT his 1st. dude wasnt some accountant with his bucket list in hand yapping in mays ear. sparring/amateurs/medals mean shlt if mcbeggar had more boxing matches, hed be a boxer. a poor mans maidana, imho. What semantics and what excuse? All I've stated are FACTS! It's a fact that it was McGregor's debut bout against Floyd Mayweather Jr. It's a fact that Floyd Mayweather Jr fought a bum in a 4 round contest during his own debut bout. It doesn't matter if he wasn't an accountant. He wasn't a pro boxer at all, before he boxed against Floyd Mayweather jr. Whilst Floyd Mayweather Jr had amateur boxing experience prior to his professional boxing debut bout. According to you, amateur boxing doesn't 'mean ****' but MMA / UFC experience does? Are you logically starved? So are you seriously implying that MMA / UFC prepares one for boxing more than amateur boxing does? Also, what does 1st 'proper fight' even supposed to mean? What does a 'fight' even supposed to mean. Both MMA and boxing are sports and they are intrinsically different from each other. Ergo, McGregor's MMA experience means very little in relation to his boxing debut bout. It was definitely McGregor's 1st boxing bout. You can speculate all you want about what would've happened had McGregor had more bouts. Maybe he would've been a Maidana or maybe he would've been greater than Mayweather. Who knows? Fact is, Mayweather faced McGregor who was debuting in a 12 round contest and lost the early rounds. Therefore, had that been a 4 round contest as it correctly could've been from McGregor's perspective since even a debuting Mayweather also had a 4 round bout himself, then McGregor would've clearly won. Perhaps Mayweather could've made adjustments and boxed differently if that was the case. However, Mayweather has no feats to suggest he can deal with an opponent using the style that McGregor used, based on his career and the main reason why he even defeated McGregor was because McGregor became tired due to lacking the conditioning for boxing.

whats mma/ufc, board games :dunno: may fought another novice in his debut. again, mcbeggar wasnt a FIGHTING novice. just the 1st time he wasnt allowed to kick. mcbeggar was more of a fighter when he fought may than may was when he himself was in his 1st pro fight. people love to harp about 0-0;0 being a boxing neophyte. dude, mcbeggar FIGHTS FOR A LIVING !!!! i sent you his fighting resume :lol1: we will never know how may would have handled mcbeggar in a 4 rd fight. we can only speculate going off of what we know about may. we can say that 40 year old yet active may ends him sooner (if mcbeggar wanted to fight an active may in the 1st place :lol1: !!!!) MMA / UFC aren't boxing. Connor McGregor had 0 professional boxing bouts or even amateur bouts before he boxed against Floyd Mayweather Jr. On the other hand, Floyd Mayweather Jr actually had amateur boxing experience (which prepares one more for professional boxing than MMA does) when he had his professional boxing debut against a bum named Roberto Apodaca. So Connor McGregor was more of a novice in his debut boxing match against Floyd Mayweather Jr than Floyd Mayweather Jr was in his debut boxing match against Roberto Apodaca. Yes, we won't know with any degree of certainty how Floyd Mayweather Jr would've fought against Connor McGregor in a 4 round boxing bout or even against an elite opponent who used the same style as McGregor / Wladimir Klitschko / Lennox Lewis when he himself was in his prime because he never fought against such opponents. However, the fact that it was Mayweather's first time boxing against an opponent using that style and he struggled indicates that it's more likely he would struggle against this style than not, even if he was younger and was more active. Also, I could likewise argue in favor of McGregor that if he had more boxing matches and experience, he could've gave even more problems to an even active Floyd Mayweather Jr too.

OP.... mcbeggar was 29 and active http://www.espn.com/mma/fighter/stats/_/id/3022677/conor-mcgregor may was 40 and retired http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/352 when will people learn....had it been a 4 rd fight, may would have fought him differently. may strung it out longer than he could have. im curious to see mcbeggar when hes 40 :lol1: McGregor had 0 fights and was making his professional boxing debut when he fought Floyd Mayweather Jr (arguably the best boxer of his era). Who exactly did Mayweather fight in his debut and how many rounds was his debut match? The answer is: Mayweather fought a 4 round match in his debut and it was against an unknown bum with only one win his record whilst losing every other fight he was involved in. Mayweather may have been 40 years old. However, Connor McGregor didn't have a single boxing match prior to fighting Floyd Mayweather Jr. So who do you think was at a bigger disadvantage? A 40 year old ATG boxer who only retired for 2 years or the boxer who is making his debut at the age of 29 without any previous professional boxing experience? Perhaps Mayweather could've fought differently and not lose those early rounds like he did against McGregor if it was a 4 round match. However, he didn't and we never saw Floyd Mayweather Jr boxing against any opponent using the style which Connor McGregor used against him or the style which Wladimir Klitschko or Lennox Lewis use where they have their lead hand extended / semi extended nearly 100% of the time used for pawing and stiff arming. So Mayweather hasn't proven that he can deal with such a style according to his past bouts by virtue of him never boxing against an opponent using that style.

If longer arms was all you needed to beat Mayweather then he wouldn't be considered one of the best of the era. I don't disagree that he lost the early rounds but in the context of the whole fight, it was irrelevant. I don't get why anyone would be impressed that the bigger Conor McGregor didn't get KO'd in 2 seconds and actually landed some punches on a retired Mayweather who had no regards for his boxing skills or punching power and didn't use his proven defensive abilities Nothing is wrong with sharing your ideas but come on man! Not every idea is a good idea. I can give you 50 reasons why I think he would have a damn good chance to beat such a boxer. I didn't claim that longer arms are all that was needed. Rather, it was a combination of having longer arms + using the style that Connor McGregor / Wladimir Klitschko use + being an elite boxer. Being the best of an era (which I agree with by the way) doesn't make Floyd Mayweather Jr immune to having bad stylistic match up problems. Good that we can agree with the fact that McGregor won the early rounds. I understand that it was irrelevant by the context of the entire bout if we're just focusing on the outcome. However, if we focus on stylistic match up between the two in terms of the advantages and disadvantages which both boxer's styles pose, then it surely does have a lot of relevance. That was my point! In the early rounds, when stamina wasn't a factor, McGregor's style gave Mayweather many problems. The thing that was impressive about McGregor was the fact that it was his debut bout against the best boxer of his generation and how he performed in that bout. Even though Mayweather may have been 41 years of age and may have been the smaller sized boxer. It was Connor McGregor's debut boxing bout. So Mayweather's disadvantages are neutralized by Connor McGregor's own disadvantages. I personally think the idea behind this thread is good because it is debatable. That's the whole point of having discussions. If you think Mayweather can beat the type of boxer I proposed, then you're just as entitled to that opinion as I am to mine. However, if you are able to provide good enough arguments, then I can learn something and perhaps change my view.

They may have had a longer 'reach' than Floyd Mayweather Jr. However, I doubt either of those mentioned boxers actually had longer arm length than Mayweather. If longer arms was all you needed to beat Mayweather then he wouldn't be considered one of the best of the era. Anyway, by 'out-boxed', I meant Mayweather lost the rounds in which he got out-boxed by Connor McGregor in. I had Mayweather behind in the scorecards coming to the 4th round. Considering it was McGregor's debut, then that was a very impressive feat and he would've won had the bout been a 4 round contest since even Mayweather's debut bout was a 4 round contest. I'm being objective and judging both Mayweather and McGregor by the same standards which applied in their debut boxing bout. The match was decided by McGregor's lack of stamina mainly and not his boxing style. I don't disagree that he lost the early rounds but in the context of the whole fight, it was irrelevant. I don't get why anyone would be impressed that the bigger Conor McGregor didn't get KO'd in 2 seconds and actually landed some punches on a retired Mayweather who had no regards for his boxing skills or punching power and didn't use his proven defensive abilities I wanted to share my ideas because this is a pubic boxing forum. This idea is open for debate and I am in no way insinuating that my idea is the undisputed truth here. If you disagree, I respect that but others are free to form their own conclusion from what I wrote in this thread. Nothing is wrong with sharing your ideas but come on man! Not every idea is a good idea. Another point I'd add is that none of those boxers you've mentioned box using the style that McGregor uses in terms of the stance he takes (extended lead hand). So again, Mayweather is feat-less against elite opposition using that style so nobody can infer with any degree of certainty how he would perform against such boxers.I can give you 50 reasons why I think he would have a damn good chance to beat such a boxer.

He would have thrown the lead left hook like he did vs corrales

Do you think he didn't fight many guys like that because there aren't many men from 130-147, where he fought the bulk of his career, that are tall with longer arms than since Floyd has an unusually long reach for someone his size? Mayweather didn't really fight boxers like that but I am in no way blaming or criticizing him for not doing so. Since the opportunity was either scarce or non-existent. So not his fault!

Oscar de la Hoya and Diego Corrales had a longer reach than him. Zab Judah's was the same. Incidentally, McGregor's was only 2 inches longer. Margarito is an inch longer. The only person who would fit your category would probably be Paul Williams and maybe Erislandy Lara. One has a great jab the other one so so. You're using a fight with McGregor to try and establish a blue print to beat one of the best boxers in the last 20 years. It was an awkward style but it was non threatening. Obviously it wasn't a factor in the fight because of the outcome. It doesn't matter if you're a fan or how many hours of videos you watched. When you make comments like McGregor clearly out boxed Mayweather (without any pretext) I don't have guess your knowledge. What IF you didn't make the post but just kept your "knowledge" to yourself. They may have had a longer 'reach' than Floyd Mayweather Jr. However, I doubt either of those mentioned boxers actually had longer arm length than Mayweather. Anyway, by 'out-boxed', I meant Mayweather lost the rounds in which he got out-boxed by Connor McGregor in. I had Mayweather behind in the scorecards coming to the 4th round. Considering it was McGregor's debut, then that was a very impressive feat and he would've won had the bout been a 4 round contest since even Mayweather's debut bout was a 4 round contest. I'm being objective and judging both Mayweather and McGregor by the same standards which applied in their debut boxing bout. The match was decided by McGregor's lack of stamina mainly and not his boxing style. I wanted to share my ideas because this is a pubic boxing forum. This idea is open for debate and I am in no way insinuating that my idea is the undisputed truth here. If you disagree, I respect that but others are free to form their own conclusion from what I wrote in this thread. Another point I'd add is that none of those boxers you've mentioned box using the style that McGregor uses in terms of the stance he takes (extended lead hand). So again, Mayweather is feat-less against elite opposition using that style so nobody can infer with any degree of certainty how he would perform against such boxers.

You're making plenty of assumptions. My point is, Floyd Mayweather Jr has never fought and beat an elite opponent who used the same extended lead hand / stiff arming style which Connor Mcgregor used, which is roughly the same style that Wladimir Klitschko and Lennox Lewis use. Also, Floyd Mayweather Jr never really fought many, if any opponents that had a longer reach than himself. Tony Pep was one of the few but nobody with a longer reach boxed using the style that Connor Mcgregor employed. So it's not a coincidence that very few opponents of Floyd Mayweather Jr had longer arm length than himself. My argument is purely based on what I personally saw during Mayweather's fight against McGregor since that was the only time Mayweather fought someone using such a style and he had immense difficulties against it. Perhaps Mayweather is so good that he may have always been able to adjust early on in his career IF he were to box against somebody using that style. However, it's a big IF since Mayweather never encountered anybody using that style and subsequently never had to show any adjustments to it. However, once again, the fact that Mayweather showed such difficulties doesn't eliminate the possibility that he may have possibly always have had problems against an opponent with such a style. Especially an elite opponent! Just for your information, I'm a Floyd Mayweather Jr fan and I've watched each and every one of his bouts. So I suggest you avoid making assumptions about my knowledge. Also, Mayweather was clearly getting out-boxed by McGregor in the first couple of rounds. There's no doubt about that! It's only after McGregor became tired that Mayweather was able to win via finishing Connor off. It's possible that maybe Mayweather was purposefully getting out-boxed, so that he can wait for McGregor to get tired as a tactical plan. It's also possible that Mayweather had legitimate difficulties against such a style. Who knows for sure? Either way, my view is a definite possibility. Oscar de la Hoya and Diego Corrales had a longer reach than him. Zab Judah's was the same. Incidentally, McGregor's was only 2 inches longer. Margarito is an inch longer. The only person who would fit your category would probably be Paul Williams and maybe Erislandy Lara. One has a great jab the other one so so. You're using a fight with McGregor to try and establish a blue print to beat one of the best boxers in the last 20 years. It was an awkward style but it was non threatening. Obviously it wasn't a factor in the fight because of the outcome. It doesn't matter if you're a fan or how many hours of videos you watched. When you make comments like McGregor clearly out boxed Mayweather (without any pretext) I don't have to guess your knowledge. What IF you didn't make the post but just kept your "knowledge" to yourself.

You're making plenty of assumptions. My point is, Floyd Mayweather Jr has never fought and beat an elite opponent who used the same extended lead hand / stiff arming style which Connor Mcgregor used, which is roughly the same style that Wladimir Klitschko and Lennox Lewis use. Also, Floyd Mayweather Jr never really fought many, if any opponents that had a longer reach than himself. Tony Pep was one of the few but nobody with a longer reach boxed using the style that Connor Mcgregor employed. So it's not a coincidence that very few opponents of Floyd Mayweather Jr had longer arm length than himself. My argument is purely based on what I personally saw during Mayweather's fight against McGregor since that was the only time Mayweather fought someone using such a style and he had immense difficulties against it. Perhaps Mayweather is so good that he may have always been able to adjust early on in his career IF he were to box against somebody using that style. However, it's a big IF since Mayweather never encountered anybody using that style and subsequently never had to show any adjustments to it. However, once again, the fact that Mayweather showed such difficulties doesn't eliminate the possibility that he may have possibly always have had problems against an opponent with such a style. Especially an elite opponent! Just for your information, I'm a Floyd Mayweather Jr fan and I've watched each and every one of his bouts. So I suggest you avoid making assumptions about my knowledge. Also, Mayweather was clearly getting out-boxed by McGregor in the first couple of rounds. There's no doubt about that! It's only after McGregor became tired that Mayweather was able to win via finishing Connor off. It's possible that maybe Mayweather was purposefully getting out-boxed, so that he can wait for McGregor to get tired as a tactical plan. It's also possible that Mayweather had legitimate difficulties against such a style. Who knows for sure? Either way, my view is a definite possibility. Do you think he didn't fight many guys like that because there aren't many men from 130-147, where he fought the bulk of his career, that are tall with longer arms than since Floyd has an unusually long reach for someone his size?

Point is, Connor Mcgregor using the extended lead hand stance and style gave Mayweather lots of problems. The ability to keep Mayweather at bay using the lead hand by stiff arming him from range. It involved head control and lead hand dominance to defensively neutralize Mayweather's offense whilst also setting up his own offense as well. Basically using the Wladimir Klitschko's style / blueprint. Now of course Floyd Mayweather Jr did manage to win in the end. It doesn't change the fact that Connor Mcgregor made Mayweather look very ordinary for the first 4 rounds. The problem for Mcgregor was his poor stamina for boxing which Mayweather obviously capitalized on. However, if stamina wasn't a factor and if that bout was a 4 round bout (as it could've been since it was Mcgregor's debut - Mayweather also had 4 round bouts when he first started off) then Mcgregor would've won. The bout was decided by Mcgregor's lack of stamina and not by his actual style or boxing moves he used. Mayweather never really fought anybody like a Lennox Lewis or a Klitschko who can stiff arm opponents from range using the extended lead hand. Not blaming him for it since such boxers didn't exist in abundance during his time. Especially in the lower weight divisions. However, it does promote curiosity as to how Mayweather would've performed against boxers using that style and how much difficulty he would've had since he never had to face such boxers and the only time he did (against a debuting Mcgregor), he showed to have problems. In summary, Floyd Mayweather Jr's weakness (judging by his bout against Connor Mcgregor) is an extended lead hand used for stiff arming and a very good jab. Especially boxers who have longer reach than Mayweather. It's no coincidence that Connor Mcgregor was one of the only few boxers to have a longer reach than Floyd Mayweather JR. Excellent post. I've edited down a little bit, but there were some guys with similar qualities that obviously floyd did not fight. There was Winky Wright, who Floyd turned down a fight with. Definitely had that stiff jab. When Floyd "retired" the first time you had Paul Williams, who had natural reach advantage and an active jab, maybe not necessarily a stiff one, and you can throw in Amir Khan as well, who's been begging for a Floyd fight forever, but Floyd doesn't get too much flack from his fans for avoiding. I doubt if you make too many Floyd boy associates with suggesting he hasn't really fought this style of fighter.

This is another outlandish post you'll defend to the middle of next year because you think Conor McGregor proved to be a better boxer than Mayweather. The internet was invented for someone with an ego like yours. Mayweather took 3 rounds to gauge McGregor's reach and power, and the next 6 rounds waiting for him to get tired. Simple as that. It was one of the easiest ways to make $100M. You're making plenty of assumptions. My point is, Floyd Mayweather Jr has never fought and beat an elite opponent who used the same extended lead hand / stiff arming style which Connor Mcgregor used, which is roughly the same style that Wladimir Klitschko and Lennox Lewis use. Also, Floyd Mayweather Jr never really fought many, if any opponents that had a longer reach than himself. Tony Pep was one of the few but nobody with a longer reach boxed using the style that Connor Mcgregor employed. So it's not a coincidence that very few opponents of Floyd Mayweather Jr had longer arm length than himself. My argument is purely based on what I personally saw during Mayweather's fight against McGregor since that was the only time Mayweather fought someone using such a style and he had immense difficulties against it. Perhaps Mayweather is so good that he may have always been able to adjust early on in his career IF he were to box against somebody using that style. However, it's a big IF since Mayweather never encountered anybody using that style and subsequently never had to show any adjustments to it. However, once again, the fact that Mayweather showed such difficulties doesn't eliminate the possibility that he may have possibly always have had problems against an opponent with such a style. Especially an elite opponent! Just for your information, I'm a Floyd Mayweather Jr fan and I've watched each and every one of his bouts. So I suggest you avoid making assumptions about my knowledge. Also, Mayweather was clearly getting out-boxed by McGregor in the first couple of rounds. There's no doubt about that! It's only after McGregor became tired that Mayweather was able to win via finishing Connor off. It's possible that maybe Mayweather was purposefully getting out-boxed, so that he can wait for McGregor to get tired as a tactical plan. It's also possible that Mayweather had legitimate difficulties against such a style. Who knows for sure? Either way, my view is a definite possibility.

I think someone with a peek a boo style that of Prime Tyson would have beaten Mayweather someone who is good at slipping and bobbing and weaving with power would have beaten him though Castillo and Madaina beat him with their pressure style