"beating a belt holder"

They're called "world champions", not belt holders.

What are you talking about? John Ruiz was must see tv once he got that belt... In all seriousness you’re absolutely right. Up here in Canada they tried to push some bum named Steve Molitor on the public. He won a title against a paper champ in the UK. They built him up here like he was an actual world champ and won a couple of fights on a major network live. First time he got in with a somewhat decent fighter he had his ass handed to him and that was the last time boxing was relevant on Canadian television. Thank god for HBO, Showtime and Sky lol. Boxing GIFTS belts to people on the norm. It;s the gritty contender that have all the talent

I agree. It's a tool for casuals to suit their argument and it's an easy way to sell to the general public as if it's a measuring stick. It also can't measure any historical context since there's I believe 102 belts up for grabs when in the 80's there were 24 titles and 10 in the 60's and 8 in the era's before that. Floyd fan logic = Oscar De La Hoya top 3 all-time, Danny Garcia > Marvin Hagler, GGG > Crawford etc; etc; Yeah it gets crazy. People will be like "stiverne was a former belt holder" Chris algieri was a belt holder. Contenders always seem to be the more talented guys these day..NOT ALWAYS Of course

What are you talking about? John Ruiz was must see tv once he got that belt... In all seriousness you’re absolutely right. Up here in Canada they tried to push some bum named Steve Molitor on the public. He won a title against a paper champ in the UK. They built him up here like he was an actual world champ and won a couple of fights on a major network live. First time he got in with a somewhat decent fighter he had his ass handed to him and that was the last time boxing was relevant on Canadian television. Thank god for HBO, Showtime and Sky lol.

I agree. It's a tool for casuals to suit their argument and it's an easy way to sell to the general public as if it's a measuring stick. It also can't measure any historical context since there's I believe 102 belts up for grabs when in the 80's there were 24 titles and 10 in the 60's and 8 in the era's before that. Floyd fan logic = Oscar De La Hoya top 3 all-time, Danny Garcia > Marvin Hagler, GGG > Crawford etc; etc;

depends on who has the belt, for example at LHW the on real champ is Stevenson, cause it was only him and Ward before Ward retired

Doesn't mean much... Depends on which belt.

Yea but casuals buy into it Promoters use belts to fool fans