WesternChamp.....
this started because you - in your wisdom - decided to hold Mayweather responsible for Pacquiao's refusal to undertake a harmless blood test
which is FCUKEN RETARDED lol
so, you are not even capable of holding Pacquiao responsible for his own decisions?
that is utterly ridiculous
what makes you clowns do such stupid things? lol
you could simply retract the following comment and we could leave it there..... "if floyd never requested random testing then the fight would have been made the first timme".....
..... because an intelligent man would realize that Mayweather's reasonable request did not kill that fight, Pacquiao's bizarre unjustifiable refusal did
so now you're the expert of cycling off peds huh? ok, floyd retired in 2007 to cycle off them peds. 2 can play this game. come at me with some facts.
ok.....
1)
FACT: Pac killed a SUPER-FIGHT by refusing random blood tests....
FACT: random blood tests are completely harmless
FACT: there is ONLY one reason to avoid random blood tests
FACT: in the amateurs, if you avoid/obstruct a drug test, you.....
* are immediately judged guilty
* you are stripped
* you are banned
2)
Pacquiao gave a grand total of 8 ridiculous excuses to avoid random blood tests, which is beyond absurd..... we needed one genuine reason, but we got 8 childish excuses..... the only reason why we got 8 childish excuses, is because there was no genuine reason
then SUDDENLY, those 8 ridiculous excuses up and disappeared without a trace, and were never mentioned ONCE when Pac finally agreed to testing
come on kid, tell us which one of those 8 ridiculous excuses you believed..... this will be funny..... come on, tell us which one of those ridiculous excuses worked for you, so that we can see how you roll
3)
FACT: Pac has the 2nd highest recorded weight-gain in boxing history at 40lbs
the highest recorded weight-gain in recorded history is 41lbs....
and it was made by a HEAVYWEIGHT who used steroids to get there
FACT: Pacquiao is a fkn midget compared to Roy Jones Jnr..... when Jones gained 41lbs, he was cheating...... and yet when Pacquiao gained 40lbs, you think that he was clean..... right ?
it is soooo clearly obvious what happened, but not to you, right?
Pac is the size of one of Jones legs, you muppet
4)
immediately after the second Marquez fight, Manny Steward stated that Pac should consider retiring..... he said that Manny looked shopworn and had been in too many wars.....
Manny then linked up with Alex Ariza
immediately following Pac's next fight against David Diaz, Steward was gushing with praise, saying that Manny looked rejuvenated/revitalized, and a completely different fighter
and NO, Steward was not throwing Manny under a bus, he was simply commenting on what he saw
what happened next..... ? here, let me remind you.....
Pac then skipped through THREE DIVISIONS in 9 months, gaining 12lbs of muscle..... seemingly increasing his speed/power and (get this) punch output..... while looking as fresh as a daisy..... wtf?
you know absolutely nothing about boxing if that does not seem suspicious to you
Pac turned from a shopworn fighter, into a 1200+ punch dynamo, who (coincidentally) refused to test..... then, Pac just as suddenly reverted back into a normal 400-500 punch fighter who looked tired at the end of a fight, and (coincidentally) he suddenly had no problem taking blood tests
LMAO
5)
a number of knowledgeable insiders, all of which are extremely knowledgeable and extremely experienced, have stated that Pacquiao was juicing..... from Atlas to Mayweather to Malignaggi to Mosley, and a number of fighters in/around wildcard
it is only you who failed to notice..... why is that ?
sad that you have to made up lies LOL!! pac is afraid of needles? you can do better than that. i said post up the 8 excuses that came from pac!
1) " afraid of needles " was the very FIRST excuse used by Team Pacquiao..... it is numero uno :lol1:
2) Pacquiao - and every other human being on the planet - is 100% responsible/accountable for the words/actions of his OFFICIAL representatives
3) Pac was a b1tch for using that "afraid of needles" excuse, just like Hoya said.....
"If Pacquiao doesn’t want to do this and risk a possible $40 million payday because he’s afraid of needles ..... then that raises question marks," De La Hoya wrote. "The guy has tattoos everywhere; he’s tattooed from top to bottom. You’re telling me he’s afraid of needles?"..... now people have to wonder: Why doesn’t he want to do this? Why is it such a big deal?
"A lot of eyebrows have been raised. This is not good at all. C’mon. It’s only a little bit of blood. If you have nothing to hide, then do the test.".....
http://www.mlive.com/mayweather/2009/12/oscar_de_la_hoya_takes_shot_at.html
..... and I have to be honest..... you running with the childish line..... "Manny did not say that, his team did"..... is also a b1tch-made excuse..... especially after you admitted that Pac may have been juicing
fvck off? you quoted me idiot!
you didnt ask no question! you assumed he was on peds.
once again, he didnt refuse, he wanted a cut off.
why did floyd decided to fight pac years later when floyd said he'll never do business with arum?
p.s. fvck you.
FACT: there is no such thing as a cutoff date for OSDT
OSDT, is right up to the fight... sometimes minutes before
the reason why..... is because they are fkn harmless
a " cut-off " date is a manny'ism, he completely made that up..... before Manny, the term "cut-off date" did not exist
a better name for cutoff date would be..... juicing window hahah :lol1:
Mayweather offered Pac a 14-day " cut-off "..... which Pacquiao refused..... Pac demanded a 24-day cutoff, which is exactly one cycle (3 weeks) and 1 flush (3 days)
come on kid, you know EXACTLY whats up :lol1:
pac gave 8 excuses?? lets hear them. from pac right???
pac said he doesnt want giving blood too close to the fight because he feel that's gonna make him weak. that was his only reason. lets hear the other 7??
* " I dont like needles "
* " taking my blood the day before the fight will weaken me "
* " I am too proud to take the test "
* " Floyd is not the commission "
* " taking my blood will affect my training, even 23-days from the fight "
* " I feel too disrespected to take the test "
* " he is bigger than me, so it will weaken me, more than him "
* " USADA are corrupt "
FACT: that bag of ridiculous excuses..... is RUBBISH
FACT: that bag of ridiculous excuses..... mysteriously disappeared when Pac finally agreed to test 5 years later..... not one of those excuses were even mentioned once lol
FACT: we needed one genuine reason..... the only reason why someone would furnish 8 ridiculous excuses is because they did not have 1 genuine reason
you are full-of-it..... you know exactly whats up Mr "if pac is using" :lol1:
come at me son..... I am just cut-n-pasting this shht, because it was done-to- death YEARS ago..... Pac's death lol
pac using steroids is as good as floyd using it also. if pac is using then so is floyd. come back at me when you have some proof. what happen to floyd saying he'll never work with arum and that as soon as pac leaves TR and arum then the fight will be made?? what happen to floyd saying years later that now is the perfect time and that before the fight wasnt as big? LOL
fcuk off
I asked a question.....
of the 8 ridiculous excuses Pac gave to avoid the blood tests..... which one did you believe?
I mean it..... why do YOU think that Pac refused harmless blood testing?
which one of those fkn absurd reasons did you fly with?
or should I say..... which one of those fkn absurd reasons - that disappeared just as mysteriously as they appeared when Pac finally agreed to testing - did you fly with?
come on man, fcuk off lol..... you know whats up
and btw, this... " if pac is using... "... is not a great defense lol
you know exactly whats up, so fcuk off
pac didnt wait 2 years to fight marquez for the first time, so not sure why you brought that up? LOL
and pac vs floyd, goes both ways. if floyd never requested random testing then the fight would have been made the first timme plus floyd said he'll never do business with arum but ended up fighting pac with arum being pac's promoter.
so..... if Floyd had let Pac use steroids, the fight would not have been delayed..... so, it is Floyds fault..... ?
really ? :lol1::lol1:
of the 8 ridiculous excuses Pac gave to avoid the blood tests..... which one did you believe?
you had two options..... brush Pac's bizarre refusal under the carpet, and pretend like it never happened while you blame Mayweather..... or question why on earth somebody would kill a super-fight over harmless blood tests
look at you, comparing canelo to pac? LOL!! sad. this aint about who's better, this aint about how many times this fighter's been ko'd. so you can bring all this up to try and discredit pac, i dont care, im not here for that LOL!!!!!
PAC is bad azz, smashing fine azz bishes dipping his lumpia stick as deep as he can!
PAC is Capt. Ramrod!
It took.Pacquiao and Arum 4 years to 3 to 1:1 years apart to face Marquez. It took Pacquiao 5 years to face Mayweather because he was afraid of needles.
At the end of the day an 8 year span of Rivalries and Pacquiao fell asleep to a Mexican ATG...
But the Pacboys trolling Nelo, deciding 8 months to 12 months in a rematch where he wasnt even hurt and Pac boys are questioning Nelo's warriorhood and bravery..
#164 vs Ward with GGg's video asking for the catchweight!
:dance::dance:
aboutfkntime
Zaroku
diz-ang dawg...you dunk'n on foos with authority.
You know this as well az me, tricks gonna stay tricked, no treat or PAC meat for them. Carrot top fought of the ropes, invited lil g to join him. Then, had lil g backing upas Nelo lit him up stepping to him...
Keep smashing on p & g tards.
Is okay I guess now days every one have to imitate their idol so you know who Canelo idol is he even try to be like him on his last fight that explains as to why he is not a Mexican warrior.(Canela is trying to be like his idol maywheather)
what in the utter fvck are you on about?
He is a white Mexican with the possibly of Irish or other European heritage in his gene.
Not the usual Mexican looking person but I'm certain he has European ancestry.
So that's what happened to my big brother all those years ago. I was told we lost him on holiday in Mexico?
Oh wow! You're one of the O'Flannagans
They took pretty good care of your brother, although they starved him for periods of time
Is okay I guess now days every one have to imitate their idol so you know who Canelo idol is he even try to be like him on his last fight that explains as to why he is not a Mexican warrior.(Canela is trying to be like his idol maywheather)
Pretty much. Add to that you take a young kid pretty much when he started getting rich and famous, and it's a recipe for disaster. He's like a Mexican Justin Beiber