Joseph Parker has a better resume than Deontay Wilder and should rank higher.

This thread is horsesh1t. The end.

andy ruiz hasnt accomplished anything except for losing weight. and parkers latest win already ducked wilder a year ago lol. both of which he barely won.

But Wilder has shown a pretty good jab and at any time in a fight one punch can turn the lights out. What has Parker shown? I think wilder has improved for sure but Parker isn't as bad as people on here say he is. He throws decent combinations and his power is underrated. It's an interesting fight with wilder starting as favourite.

I would say 60-40 in wilders favour. I'm not getting too carried away with the stiverne rematch. It was a very impressive KO but stiverne was in terrible shape. But Wilder has shown a pretty good jab and at any time in a fight one punch can turn the lights out. What has Parker shown?

There's a case to be made for sure. I'd pick Wilder to win if they fought, but i think Parker has a slightly better resume at present.

Absolutely Takam has fought better opposition but Wilder is a far more dangerous threat.

You didn't address any of our points. Because you know you're in checkmate. I didn't address any points because there's nothing to address? You're now trying to compare names who've been thrown into the WBC rankings from nowhere to a man who climbed up the rankings slowly, on nothing but merit. You obviously strongly favour Deontay Wilder. Your bias is effecting your subjectivity. I am not even a Joseph Parker fan. I just felt like pointing something out which isn't immediately obvious. The majority would agree that what I said is true. Parker has the better names, higher ranking opponents. Maybe four or five of your buddies would disagree. I don't have the interest to debate this one thing with a zealot hater all day. It's over with as far as I'm concerned. You and I are never going to agree on this. Do I want to sit here having a back and forth argument with you? No thanks. Does that mean you got me in "checkmate"? Hey, whatever gives you the will to carry on in life.

Ok bro be real you don't think Parker would win I would say 60-40 in wilders favour. I'm not getting too carried away with the stiverne rematch. It was a very impressive KO but stiverne was in terrible shape.

You can hide behind a paper title gimmick. Nobody buys it. My original post still stands and nobody is in "checkmate". You are critisizing Andy Ruiz Jr. as a top 10 opponent. It's funny how you strive so hard to look unbiased in many threads around here. When it comes to the autistic kid from Alabama? You've let your mask slip. You didn't address any of our points. Because you know you're in checkmate. If you were referring to TBRB rankings, then you lied about Ruiz being top 10. If you were referring to WBC rankings, then you lied about Wilder only facing one top 10 opponent when nearly all of his opponents the last 3 years have been ranked in the WBC's top 10 when he fought them. So it's impossible for you to be telling the truth because whichever story you pick, you were still lying.

We've been here since this site's inception. You can hide behind a paper title gimmick. Nobody buys it. My original post still stands and nobody is in "checkmate". You are critisizing Andy Ruiz Jr. as a top 10 opponent. It's funny how you strive so hard to look unbiased in many threads around here. When it comes to the autistic kid from Alabama? You've let your mask slip.

I was not mistaken I am 100% correct. Andy Ruiz Jr. was ranked in the top 10 I am certain of the WBC and the WBO. The only thing I am uncertain of is his rankings with the IBF and WBA. I notice he has been removed completely from both those organisations rankings now. Now we know you are definitely lying. Blatantly. On purpose. How do we know this? Because in your initial post you wrote: "The only Top 10 who Deontay Wilder beat is Bermane Stiverne in the first fight." So clearly your post had nothing to do with ABC rankings and instead referred to independent rankings like the TBRB. In which case, you were dead wrong about Ruiz being in the top ten. But because you're such a coward, instead of just claiming it was an innocent mistake, you've doubled down and you're insisting you were right because so and so was in an ABC top 10. Well okay, IF you are telling the truth that you were referring to WBC rankings when claiming Ruiz was top 10, then that makes your original post an even bigger lie because you said the only top 10 opponent Deontay faced was Stiverne the first time, even though if we're going by WBC rankings like you're claiming now, Molina, Szpilka, Arreola, Washington and Stiverne the second time were all top 10 opponents when Deontay beat them. So you're in checkmate. Because no matter which story you try to stick to now, you were still lying. I know you haven't been around here long, but before the fight Ruiz Jr. was hyped on here for a fair old time. We've been here since this site's inception.

No no no, I'm not going to put it any way. You said Ruiz was top ten when Parker beat him. That wasn't true. That was a lie. If you were simply mistaken or had your information mixed up, just say so. But don't try to move the goal posts or change the subject. Show some accountability and be a man. I was not mistaken I am 100% correct. Andy Ruiz Jr. was ranked in the top 10 I am certain of the WBC and the WBO. The only thing I am uncertain of is his rankings with the IBF and WBA. I notice he has been removed completely from both those organisations rankings now. I know you haven't been around here long, but before the fight Ruiz Jr. was hyped on here for a fair old time.

Yeah, the second best HW boxer right after almighty AJ.

Put it this way. When that fight happened it was a 50/50 matchup and Parker was no better than Ruiz Jr. ratings wise. That fight was a coming out party for both fighters. Andy Ruiz Jr. had been in the top 10 of several organisations since 2015. No no no, I'm not going to put it any way. You said Ruiz was top ten when Parker beat him. That wasn't true. That was a lie. If you were simply mistaken or had your information mixed up, just say so. But don't try to move the goal posts or change the subject. Show some accountability and be a man.

Why are you posting blatant lies? Ruiz was not top 10 when Parker beat him. Takam was (#8), but Ruiz wasn't. Get your facts straight please. It's not fair to mislead the community. Put it this way. When that fight happened it was a 50/50 matchup and Parker was no better than Ruiz Jr. ratings wise. That fight was a coming out party for both fighters. Andy Ruiz Jr. had been in the top 10 of several organisations since 2015.

Why don't Wilder fight Parker, and winner get AJ? Makes sense to me Because Bob Arum blocked the fight when they were supposed to fight over the summer.

Andy Ruiz Jr. and Carlos Takam are both current Top 10 Heavyweights. They were both Top 10 when Joseph Parker beat them. Why are you posting blatant lies? Ruiz was not top 10 when Parker beat him. Takam was (#8), but Ruiz wasn't. Get your facts straight please. It's not fair to mislead the community.

This flip side is you are blaming Wilder for all that. Povetkin played a pretty damn large role in that fight getting slow rolled, which is exactly how he and his team did when he was Wlad's mandatory. Eddie Chambers when? How is he that much different from Malik Scott? Adamek who got punished by Molina and Szpilka? Haye who barely fought? Wlad who barely fought and we have been over? Fury who took a different route then never fought again? So tell me how is any of that Wilder's fault? Two you listed are no one at heavy, the other 3 fought very sparingly the last several years. When has Parker showing any inkling of making something happen Wilder is clearly above him in the pecking order. If Parker fights Joshua fair play on that decent enough fight, but then you get back to wanting Wilder to fight someone with a pulse? Who is that? Someone who doesn't really exist or is available. So you would be putting Wilder in an impossible spot just like you wanting him to fight guys who were doing other things and wanted no part of Wilder. Not that they were scarred or reticent to fight him just they did different things for whatever reason (more money, better opportunity, less risk whatever the reason may be). No am not blaming Wilder for all of that, am listing all the names that he has pass by in the time he was an HW coming up, challenger, and a champion and he didn’t get a single one of them in the ring with him. You seem to put his 10 years, 39 fights mediocre resume on everyone else but him. It would be like Joshua being a pro for 10 years and having a resume like that, and for one reason or the other it’s everyone else’s fault but Joshua. Guess what? Kell Brook had that same career as Wilder before he fought Spence and guess what we blast him for it over here and he is a Brit like myself. I didn’t blame everyone at 147, I place the blame firmly at Brook door. No way you go 10 years in one division and convienently blame others for your mediocre resume, then when you feel you are willing to take a risk you want to rush everyone else. Maybe Parker and Joshua should go his 10 years route and then start calling out Debouis once they feel more comfortable to step up after 40 fights.

wilder being a big puncher is more exciting than Parker. I agree that this exciting style does not make him better, but it has made him more of a percieved threat. Its similar with whyte, the guy is a good fighter, with combos and weird angles, a bit of power compared to even Parker... but losing to Joshua for whatever reason makes Whyte have to climb up and he should wait to see who prevails between Joshua and wilder. People who try to make a case for the "better man" are obfiscating the issue: which is in fact, the "better fight." Heck if I am Parker? would I rather go in and lets say, the fight becomes a Left Hook Lacy affair, where he beats up wilder...well then people would say, like some have said here... "oh Michael Grant." On the other hand if Wilder turns out to be for real and beats Joshua... its also better for Parker who will get credit if he wins, for beating a bona fide. what some people are missing is, we don't know how good wilder is based on that last fight, sorry.

This is where fanboys use stats to avoid painful truths. Stats; Parker should rank higher. Truth; Wilder is a greater threat and the fight everyone wants to see. That said, I think Parker has legit earned a shot and I've no problem him fighting AJ before Wilder if that's the way it works out. Redd, that's the truth doe! Lol