I'm not a Joshua fan.
Just making an example that losing a fight doesn't make you trash like you say it is. Wilder better than Lomachenko at Boxing? I've heard it all now.Stop lying alt. Nobody said close to the **** that you're saying that I said. You either can't read or you do this **** on purpose when people disagree with you. You do know that these posts can be traced back, lmao. Either reread my posts or learn to read.
Leave Wilder, Hopkins, Marquez, Armstrong and Arguello out of your Loma argument. It's embarrassing to read from a Joshua fan. How in the hell is Wilder in this lol lol...
I'm not a Joshua fan.
Just making an example that losing a fight doesn't make you trash like you say it is. Wilder better than Lomachenko at Boxing? I've heard it all now.
Yes, he's a better fighter than both combined.
Hopkins, Marquez, Armstrong and Arguello also lost quicker than him? Do you really think Wilder is a better and more accomplished fighter than them as well?
Joe Louis also lost before he ever won the title. I don't think he's better than Louis at Boxing. He's probably #4 all-time heavyweight (1. Marciano then Ali and Louis then Wilder).Leave Wilder, Hopkins, Marquez, Armstrong and Arguello out of your Loma argument. It's embarrassing to read from a Joshua fan. How in the hell is Wilder in this lol lol...
His record in his first 12 months ****s all over Joshua's stiff ass as well. Only thing is he has lost faster than Wilder and Joshua's scared, stiff ass as well.
Yes, he's a better fighter than both combined.
Hopkins, Marquez, Armstrong and Arguello also lost quicker than him? Do you really think Wilder is a better and more accomplished fighter than them as well?
Joe Louis also lost before he ever won the title. I don't think he's better than Louis at Boxing. He's probably #4 all-time heavyweight (1. Marciano then Ali and Louis then Wilder).
His first 12 months as a pro were more impressive than Wilder's career for example. Why do people think he should have ran his record up fighting scrubs for 10 years and 40 fights before taking on good opposition?
90% of bouts have been world championship fights, 50% against world champions and 3 of those (coming onto 4) were fights were many, many people said he'd lose.
On top of that his skill level is very impressive to eyes that work and can form objective views and he's been nothing but dominant since he won his first title. I think he hasn't lost a round since the Russell fight (in which he lost one round).
Good fighter.His record in his first 12 months ****s all over Joshua's stiff ass as well. Only thing is he has lost faster than Wilder and Joshua's scared, stiff ass as well.
Who tf are you fighting? Lol
Haha you know what I mean man...could sit and beat tomato cans for years and not be considered a world class fighter / could lose five times in 20 fights and be considered great.
This is pure ignorance on my side but he's 9-1!!
Said it yourself man, you are ignorant too it.
Take a look, a close one, and you’ll see.
He is a top notch world class fighter, even though he has a loss among only a few fights.
You could go 100-0 and suck, you could be 2-0 and be elite...it doesn’t necessarily matter when you look at it only from that value.
Watch his skill and intelligence, the things he does...not just the fact he is 9-1
loma lost to a bum so what does that say? Let me guess, he wasn't ready but he is ready to be on the P4P List?? GTFOH!
Does weight matter? Wasn’t salido at 147?
oh ok so as long as you beat bums and dont lose thats more impressive than beating guys with top wins like loma did??? strange standards you have there...essentilaly what you saying is that they should have put 39 bums in front of loma and you would have been more impressed.
loma lost to a bum so what does that say? Let me guess, he wasn't ready but he is ready to be on the P4P List?? GTFOH!
Loma is a fine example of why beating up on nobodies at the start of your career, shouldn't be given much consideration.
He stepped straight into world class fights, and is incredibly talented.
His first 12 months as a pro were more impressive than Wilder's career for example. Why do people think he should have ran his record up fighting scrubs for 10 years and 40 fights before taking on good opposition?
90% of bouts have been world championship fights, 50% against world champions and 3 of those (coming onto 4) were fights were many, many people said he'd lose.
On top of that his skill level is very impressive to eyes that work and can form objective views and he's been nothing but dominant since he won his first title. I think he hasn't lost a round since the Russell fight (in which he lost one round).
Good fighter.
So no problems then.
It was his second fight, he wasn't world class at that point. He is now. He didn't lose when he was a world class boxer by your definitions.
Now he's a two division champ with wins over former champions. So obviously, he's now a world class champion.
/threadHe started out world class like you all said. You all even bragged about it. That's not my problem with him. Fighters lose. But rematches must happen. Salido Loma 2 hasn't happened. And for some reason Salido is being blamed.