He beat Canelo lost to Jacobs, first time I saw Canelo GGG I had a draw second a GGG win, one thing for certain GGG looked very ordinary both fights certainly no p4p king, Loma and Crawford take that honour.
Nelo & Jacobs both beat golovkin & I have Nelo at 1 P4P right now cuz of his resume & I don't even like Nelo.
That's two gifts he got. I wonder if he would get 3 gggifts in a row? Jermall Charlo is his mandatory....Lions Only!
He beat Canelo lost to Jacobs, first time I saw Canelo GGG I had a draw second a GGG win, one thing for certain GGG looked very ordinary both fights certainly no p4p king, Loma and Crawford take that honour.
geale beat the #1 and #3 ranked fighters in ggg's division. adamek never did that at heavy so no he was not comparable to geale...and the main point is arreola lost to adamek. he didnt beat him so you are trying to hype up arreolas opponent that he lost to in order to prove arreola was good in order to prove stirverne beating arreola was good? thats a lot of mental hoops to jump through. just name the top 10 fighters arreola beat. we know geale was a bum cause he beat the #1 and #3 fighters so arreola and stiverne must have much better on their resumes.
Who? Martinez was #1. Cotto beat Martinez then moved back down to 154 and blasted out Geale with ease.
Martinez was a level above all these guys, Sturm, Murray, Barker, Macklin, Mundine etc. Barker gave him his toughest fight and only won 2-3 rounds before getting KO'd. Even with a bum knee he beat Murray's ass.
Arreola-Adamek was neck and neck and went to a MD for a reason, Arreola probably would've pulled it off but he injured his hand. These fighters are pretty much equal, you're acting like Adamek schooled him, that's not the case at all.
Besides, 160 is not HW, don't know why you're comparing them. There is no division 6lbs south or 8lbs north. You get some champions from cruiser and some of the most physically gifted fighters in the sport at HW.
The same fans riding Wilder's bone, are the ones who will say Marciano was a bum who only fought bums. Same fan-boys who will say GGG only fought bums or blown up WWs while Wilder has a size advantage in most of his fights and his best wins are Stiverne and Arreola--two journeymen who fought one another for the Golden Doughnut Title. Anyone notice what all the Wilder fans have in common? It's a big fat double-standard.
I agree and I've noticed it.
Wilder does have an all-time great resume though. Murderers row Wilder just makes them look bad I guess.
You said Stiverne lost to a bum...:dance:
Be consistent with knowing the stoppages.
Stiverne never ran away hurt like Kovalev. :dance:
yes he lost to a bum. an 11-15 fighter. he also has a draw with a 17-17 fighter. ok lets say he didnt lose and have a draw...that adds what to his resume??? wins over an 11-15 and 17-17 fighter wow now hes elite! are you saying stirverne was basically undefeated when wilder beat him therefore it was a great win? he still never beat anyone good. his losses dont really matter.
You can't hype up Geale then downplay Adamek lmao.
Adamek lost to a P4P quality fighter at 175, Dawson, not a nobody like Barker. He went up and became champion at cruiser. Wins over Bell, Cunningham x2, Banks, Chambers, this dude literally has a better resume than ggg.
Cunningham as well, wins over Huck and Wlodarcyzk are literally better wins than Jacobs-Brook.
lil g's best opponent Jacobs was blasted out in 5 by Pirog and dropped by Mora.
Stiverne-King was a horrific stoppage, he was in 0 trouble. And a draw in your early career>>>getting KTFO
On top of that Wilder actually separated himself from Stiverne, ggg arguably lost to Jacobs.
geale beat the #1 and #3 ranked fighters in ggg's division. adamek never did that at heavy so no he was not comparable to geale...and the main point is arreola lost to adamek. he didnt beat him so you are trying to hype up arreolas opponent that he lost to in order to prove arreola was good in order to prove stirverne beating arreola was good? thats a lot of mental hoops to jump through. just name the top 10 fighters arreola beat. we know geale was a bum cause he beat the #1 and #3 fighters so arreola and stiverne must have much better on their resumes.
geale was a former unified champ who had beaten the #1 and #3 ranked fighters before losing a debatable split decision before fighing ggg. stirverne is a guy who beat #9 ranked arreola....oh yeah before that lost to a bum and got a draw with a 17-17 fighter. same thing!!!
You can't hype up Geale then downplay Adamek lmao.
Adamek lost to a P4P quality fighter at 175, Dawson, not a nobody like Barker. He went up and became champion at cruiser. Wins over Bell, Cunningham x2, Banks, Chambers, this dude literally has a better resume than ggg.
Cunningham as well, wins over Huck and Wlodarcyzk are literally better wins than Jacobs-Brook.
lil g's best opponent Jacobs was blasted out in 5 by Pirog and dropped by Mora.
Stiverne-King was a horrific stoppage, he was in 0 trouble. And a draw in your early career>>>getting KTFO
On top of that Wilder actually separated himself from Stiverne, ggg arguably lost to Jacobs.
Stiverne with his first loss shows u you dont follow ze boxing. Remember when you cried when the ref stopped Kova vs Ward 2...
Yeah...why don't u look into the fight Stiverne had "lost."
when was stirverne stopped on illegal punches like kovalev???
Stivene was likely top 6-7 when he fought Wilder, potentially.
GGG has cleared out the entire divison willing or unwilling before running into issues with Jacobs and Canelo. The run of wins he has were over literally every top ten guys.
In context Wilder has one win over a top ten guy three years ago, Golovkin has several but the last 12 months he's shown huge decline, coincidently as he's risen his opposition level.
That's two gifts he got. I wonder if he would get 3 gggifts in a row? Jermall Charlo is his mandatory....Lions Only!
D.Wilder would Knock rocky the F*CK out! lil g is a fake hype. Lions Only!
Yes, he probably would. He would have a 9 inch height advantage and outweigh him by close to 40 pounds. Sounds about typical for Deontay. Meanwhile, you can watch Deontay fight Joshua's leftovers next year while earning less than Marciano, LMAO.
The same fans riding Wilder's bone, are the ones who will say Marciano was a bum who only fought bums. Same fan-boys who will say GGG only fought bums or blown up WWs while Wilder has a size advantage in most of his fights and his best wins are Stiverne and Arreola--two journeymen who fought one another for the Golden Doughnut Title. Anyone notice what all the Wilder fans have in common? It's a big fat double-standard.
D.Wilder would Knock rocky the F*CK out! lil g is a fake hype. Lions Only!
how did he lowball them? whats wrong with 20 percent? is parker a huge star that i didtn know about? joshua gets 90k fans. parker got 9k against ruiz. you cant just say something is a lowball without lookign at the economics. overpaying just to beat a guy is pretty lame. yeah you want the belt but you also want to make money. there is a balance between the two. ttakam only got 10 percent. should he have held out for more too?
Well Takam was a last minute substitute. If you don't think thats low, ok. AJ is the draw, without question, which makes what he and Hearn are doing very clear.
Rather than risk a fight with Wilder AJ seems to want to fight Haye, Fury and Parker for the money in ENgland before Wilder. I get it, makes fiscal sense.
If he decides to fight Wilder next, he might have to come to the US where the revenue would likely be more than 90k Wembley, but AJ will not have such a loud home crowd behind him and as the draw, he surely wants that. I get this too.
Just do me a favor-if AJ signs with HBO the fight with Wilder will be delayed until after the initial deal is up. Just please call him out like you did Stevenson.
As I said, I think AJ wins so I don't see why he wouldn't want to make the Wilder fight right next.
Wilder may suck, but guys keep cheating rather than fight him. AJ, who IMO would beat him, doesn't appear to want to fight Wilder now, opting for lucrative easy fights in England with Haye, and maybe Fury (since Chisora lost this weekend.)
Hearn and Aj said they wanted to unify but lowballed the hell out of Parker. Why, if this is the fight he wants?
AJ is the better fighter, Wilder's resume is garbage, he punches too wide and leaves himself open, he doesn't appear to have a high ring IQ. But he is fast for his size, athletic, and has serious power and for whatever reason AJ doesn't want to fight him now.
how did he lowball them? whats wrong with 20 percent? is parker a huge star that i didtn know about? joshua gets 90k fans. parker got 9k against ruiz. you cant just say something is a lowball without lookign at the economics. overpaying just to beat a guy is pretty lame. yeah you want the belt but you also want to make money. there is a balance between the two. ttakam only got 10 percent. should he have held out for more too?
why would wilder be considered the best heavyweight.....cause he gets a lot of press and is american? have you seen his resume? guys like pulev and parker have much better resumes. no one considers them the best....why? an australian and a bulgarian thats why. don't let the american hype fool you. this could be another broner, berto situation.
Yup, agree with the sentiments above.
The same fans riding Wilder's bone, are the ones who will say Marciano was a bum who only fought bums. Same fan-boys who will say GGG only fought bums or blown up WWs while Wilder has a size advantage in most of his fights and his best wins are Stiverne and Arreola--two journeymen who fought one another for the Golden Doughnut Title. Anyone notice what all the Wilder fans have in common? It's a big fat double-standard.
Poster GhostofDempsey usually calls posts like this race-baiting.
The same fans riding Wilder's bone, are the ones who will say Marciano was a bum who only fought bums. Same fan-boys who will say GGG only fought bums or blown up WWs while Wilder has a size advantage in most of his fights and his best wins are Stiverne and Arreola--two journeymen who fought one another for the Golden Doughnut Title. Anyone notice what all the Wilder fans have in common? It's a big fat double-standard.
the best way to describe it....mind bobblin!!!
why would wilder be considered the best heavyweight.....cause he gets a lot of press and is american? have you seen his resume? guys like pulev and parker have much better resumes. no one considers them the best....why? an australian and a bulgarian thats why. don't let the american hype fool you. this could be another broner, berto situation.
Wilder may suck, but guys keep cheating rather than fight him. AJ, who IMO would beat him, doesn't appear to want to fight Wilder now, opting for lucrative easy fights in England with Haye, and maybe Fury (since Chisora lost this weekend.)
Hearn and Aj said they wanted to unify but lowballed the hell out of Parker. Why, if this is the fight he wants?
AJ is the better fighter, Wilder's resume is garbage, he punches too wide and leaves himself open, he doesn't appear to have a high ring IQ. But he is fast for his size, athletic, and has serious power and for whatever reason AJ doesn't want to fight him now.
Stiverne and arreola are his best wins! LMAO no wonder his fans tremble at the thought of him facing whyte before he has a chance to cash out vs joshua.
The same fans riding Wilder's bone, are the ones who will say Marciano was a bum who only fought bums. Same fan-boys who will say GGG only fought bums or blown up WWs while Wilder has a size advantage in most of his fights and his best wins are Stiverne and Arreola--two journeymen who fought one another for the Golden Doughnut Title. Anyone notice what all the Wilder fans have in common? It's a big fat double-standard.
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