Interesting interview with Bashir, mainly about the Wilder vs Stiverne rematch. Late on in the interview, he's asked about the sparring that took place in 2012 between a relatively green Wilder and the vastly more experienced Wladimir. He says Wilder was staggered several times sparring Wladimir, and he recalls that when Wilder got dropped he was quite badly shaken, taking a minute to recover so Bashir believes if it was a pro fight it would have been stopped there and then because he would have been unable to continue after a 10 count!
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Sorry but Bashir was an actual trainer in 2012 and is far smarter than Banks who also is also Wilders friend and the detailed accounts are to credible to disbelieve over a new trainer who AJ defeated his two heavyweights at one time so he’s going to side a bit with Wilder .
Those trying to disbelieve what happened over what Banks said vaguely with no detail,who says a lot of wrong things are fooling yourselves .
This interview puts any doubt on full stop .
Again, what's with your weird negative obsession with Wilder? Racism? Anti American agenda? What?
Joshua will fight the biggest financial fights for him. Wilder isn't the biggest fight. He's not a draw and will expect too much money. This is what fans should expect and is the most sensible approach, the biggest financial fights are usually the ones fans want to see. He'll drop even further down the pecking order when Haye beats Bellew.
Only one person can change that and that's Wilder himself. Shame his fans are too retarded to see it. :dunce::lol1:
What had happen last night was Wilder's brutal ko changed everyones mind about Wilder Joshua and the above deflection attempt shows why Joshua is scared of Wilder. Now everyone knows Butthurt Robbie lol...
I agree. I said it after the fight that the ref was looking to stop the fight and gave Joshua a rest the round before by calling for the doctor. Friendless Muffin.
Wilder looked superb and Joshua looked like **** in his last fight. Now we know why Joshua won't fight Wilder butthurt Robbie, lmao.
Poor Friendless Muffin. He thinks the cashier at the local shop is his friend because he said "Hi" and "Bye". :lol1:
The ref stopped Takam Joshua under controversey while Wilder smoked Verne, lmao. Ill eat him Hearn said...what joshua said, lmmfao!!!
Well yes, what's wrong with that?
You have no evidence, that's what's wrong.
And i believe you didn't claim they were friends you claimed they were "good friends" as a reason for Wilder not pursuing a fight.
Pathetic excuse. :rofl:Another lie from Butthurt Robbie, lmao. Did you see Wilder last night, lmao. Joshua's fight last week was a trash performance lol...
This is pathetic.
You make claims. I ask for evidence, you have none and then start with pathetic lame names to try and deflect.
Step your game up you scrub. :lol1:
The claim was wlad and Wilder are friends, you doubt that and you're asking for evidence of that friendship from me, lmao. Butthurt Robbie lol...
If it makes you feel better go ahead. It's clear who's butthurt, the guy inventing "good friendships" and claiming people that have never supported Joshua are "Joshua fanboys" to try dismiss their opinion. :lol1:Butthurt Robbie knows for a fact that Wlad Wilder aren't friends lmao. You've been a joshua **** gobbling fan from day one lmao. Butthurt Robbie is going H.A.M in every thread this morning protecting joshua lmao. Now it's the "dismiss their opinion" butthurt Robbie lol, lol...
Very very poor effort. Making claims without any supporting evidence is retarded. You're a retard confirmed.
"Good friends" though :rofl:
We gon call you butthurt Robbie, lmao.
So you have nothing. No evidence or facts to back up your claims and opinions. :lol1:
The only evidence I have is last night. Wilder's right hand has you going ham here in lol. This thread alone shows your serious butthurtness joshua **** gobbler, lmao.
I made it up? I'm still waiting for the evidence they are "friends" like you claim, you have any? :dunce:
You will get no such thing. You'll have to read why he didn't want to rematch joshua and why he paved the way for joshua wilder and joshua ***ged out lol. Read all about it, read all about it Mr Joshua Damage Control lmao.
I'm NOT a Joshua fan. :dunce:
I know that's what fanboys presume when someone challenges their retarded stance. I just don't like bullshit and the past couple of months that's all i've seen from fanboys.
Isn't it amazing how nobody gave a **** about Wilder a couple of months ago and now he has all these fans on the board?
****ing pathetic hype train seekers.
Stop lying, lmao. You love Joshua. Love him! You saw Wilder last night mate, lol. You can't promote Joshua after Wilder's performance ****ted all over his lmao. Wilder ****en exlaxed all over Joshua lol. Dissed and dismissed him lol. Peep the highlights of their last fights lol. Compare them! Lol
Excuse for Wilder never pursuing a Klitschko fight. I can show you both records and tell you who has the better resume, i can show you fight attendances and PPV's and tell you who's the more popular. I can tell you that Wilder is in no position to demand anything from Joshua.
Wilder isn't demanding anything **** gobbler and stop lying about klitschko and Wilder anything lol. You made that up, lmao. You clowns will be out of boxing soon and you'll all be forced to take your lies and deceit and shove them up your ass on the way out too lol.
It does hold value if the reason you don't want to fight the guys is because they beat you up in sparring. Mentally defeated.What a stupid **** gobbling answer, lmao. You joshua fanantics are a disease on these boards. You'll do anything to protect joshua at all costs, lmao. You couldn't protect him last night. He had to have seen the ko lol.
"Good friends"? What would you class as good friends? Show us how they're good friends, do they even hang out together? That should be a minimum requirement of good friends, shouldn't it? :lol1:
Pathetic excuse.Excuse for what, lmao. Show you what joshua **** gobbler. I can show you Wilder last night and Joshua Takam last week and tell you who was more exciting mate lmao lol...
If Wilder was dropped 5 years ago, it was an up and coming fighter being dropped by the Reigning WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION.
Joshua has been dropped by David Price and two Heavyweights who hadn't even turned Pro at the time...Lawrence Okolie which was a heavy knockdown and Triple DDD Daniel Dubious who knocked AJ out cold.
I think getting knocked down by the World Heavyweight Champion is far better then getting knocked out cold by two amateurs!
Damn, looking at your sig, if I were betting on this fight I would change it to Wilder by KO instead of decision. I've never seen him that pissed and aggressive before a fight. Stiverne should have been happy for another opportunity and just STFU.
https://i.imgur.com/d36M0oM.png
Decision was +350, I went easy but I was tempted on the rounds with crazy odds.
If you don't see improvement in Wilder from 2012 to today then I don't know what to tell you but that is not my issue.
He is clearly much better, he really wasn't getting outboxed that badly and when Wilder turned it on the fight ended so I don't get why you bring that fight up? Wilder sat around for three rounds, started punching in round 4 clearly won that round and ended the fight in round 5 that means a lot to you?
Yeah and Wilder specifically took that fight to test out his right hand. He was gunshy with it the whole fight and he knocked Washington out the first time he even threw it.
I'm a Wilder critic, but getting dropped by Wlad in sparring is not a big deal imo.
Wlad and Wilder are not just boxers who just sparred and that's it. They're actually good friends.
Man if sparring matches were fights that counted on your record, Oliver McCall would be TBE. But it's no surprise that a Joshua fan made this post. After last week, Joshua's PR reps have been hounding Wilder and his fans with anything that they can come up with lol.
Anyway...I dont really care, but where's the video of this vicious ko in sparring, lmao.
"You do care Rag, because you responded". I remember that day when someone first said that to me. It was when I first started posting on AOL's boxing message blogs. Some things don't change lol.