I've lost my mind haven't I?

He could. But hes way too small. He just started filling out at 175 and looked like thats the biggest he should be. I dont even know how he would look at around 200 pounds he would have to be way too bulked up. Aj is just way too big he would just maul him i doubt ward could hurt him with his hardest shot. Hes just way too small , he would be like a little boy in there.

I thought Joshua did about as well as expected against Takam. I don't think he was ever in danger of losing the fight. I can see Ward having success where Takam didn't. At the same time people are looking at Takam as the smaller fighter because he's shorter but his arms and back was about the same size as Joshua's. I don't know what weight Ward would need to be to be more durable against Joshua. Also, if Joshua is able to keep pumping his jab for more than 4 or 5 rounds it would be difficult for Ward to get inside his reach. Ward can do it but don't let the Takam fight confuse you into thinking it would be easy. Takam and Ward are two different fighters stylistically. people saw joshua's style mesh with a cautious fighter with a solid amateru background and good pro experience and who moved, and now they think ward can beat him :lol1: none of these guys even gave takam a round! yet based off of what happened, when a guy with a good 50 lbs over ward, and who would give up a good 60 lbs to joshua they think ward has a shot! what you saw was a clash of styles. joshua still won every round and learned a good deal about what to do next time. yes, in the past, smaller guys have had early success against bigger gys, and have even won in the past. joshua's not only HW, he's a true super HW with about 11" of reach, and between 50-75 lbs bigger without being soft anywhere on his body. ward's not james toney, who had legitimate power at 160-175 and could hurt HW if he teed off on them. he's fast, but he's not an athletic freak like jones who coupled freakish physical gifts with his intelligence and his reflexes. ward wins by getting dirty, wearing opponents down, clinching, boxing from the outside. virtually none of his schtick will work against a guy who is 50 lbs heavier and half a foot taller, unless the guy is a pleb. believe me, if ward thought he could come out of retirementand beat joshua he would. it would be one of the biggest paydays in boxing, catapult him into genuine superstardom, and string together a few of the genuinely massive paydays he thinks he is worth

This is a seriously astute form of trolling. Put a whacky statement out there knowing full well you're going to have the Kigali's and 1hourrun's of the world backing you up. I don't even have to read this thread and I know they'll be running with it like a one-eyed downs syndrome kid with a chew toy.

he wins the decision, how, exaclty? you want him to clinch a 250 lber? box on the outside against a guy with close to a foot in reach advantage? win rounds against a HW with real punching power? this isn't roy jones. it's andre ward. he wins rough and tumble. his schtick would never work agaisnt a HW, never mind 245 lb joshua. same way he beat kovalev. magic

Hahahaha man you're not crazy. He would have a chance a small chance but a chance. I'd like to see Usyk vs Joshua now. I think he has the craft to get to a decision and maybe get robbed. I agree. I take Usyk to beat him. Ward is good but too small.

I thought Joshua did about as well as expected against Takam. I don't think he was ever in danger of losing the fight. I can see Ward having success where Takam didn't. At the same time people are looking at Takam as the smaller fighter because he's shorter but his arms and back was about the same size as Joshua's. I don't know what weight Ward would need to be to be more durable against Joshua. Also, if Joshua is able to keep pumping his jab for more than 4 or 5 rounds it would be difficult for Ward to get inside his reach. Ward can do it but don't let the Takam fight confuse you into thinking it would be easy. Takam and Ward are two different fighters stylistically. People are way overestimating Ward's chances. It's like you said, Takam may be much shorter than Joshua but he wasn't very far off in terms of weight...and Takam was extremely solid muscle, not fat. Takam was 235 lbs.., not a small heavyweight. Ward is an inch shorter than Takam and smaller boned. Ward is a grinder, who fights much smaller guy, so he can get away with wrestling and slowing down the pace of the fight...but with a big, powerful, good fighter he wouldn't be able to withstand the constant pressure and he's not going to be able to frustrate his opponent by grappling with them in the clinch....and his stamina will be tested much more when a big fighter is constantly walking him down all night.

I thought Joshua did about as well as expected against Takam. I don't think he was ever in danger of losing the fight. I can see Ward having success where Takam didn't. At the same time people are looking at Takam as the smaller fighter because he's shorter but his arms and back was about the same size as Joshua's. I don't know what weight Ward would need to be to be more durable against Joshua. Also, if Joshua is able to keep pumping his jab for more than 4 or 5 rounds it would be difficult for Ward to get inside his reach. Ward can do it but don't let the Takam fight confuse you into thinking it would be easy. Takam and Ward are two different fighters stylistically.

You're prediction isn't crazy whatsoever. Throughout history, certain boxers had done what most people thought was impossible(Ali beating Liston and Foreman), Pacquiao beating De La Hoya, etc. Ward definitely has the skills and tools to potential beat Joshua BUT the weight and reach advantage Joshua has would be extremely hard to overcome. Now if Ward settles into heavyweight for a while and has about 4-5 good wins against good opposition, it would be possible but extremely grueling

I know its easy to say really as it'll never happen but if it did... Fvck Boxingscene I think Andre Ward would have a legitimate shot at beating Joshua. There I said it, thanks just had to get it off my chest. Part of me thinks his 'retirement' is to bulk up and prepare for the unthinkable as well. After Saturday it's entirely possible. Joshua has terrible stamina and Andre's is top notch. This will be easy to exploit for him.

If AJ had bodywork like Dillian Whyte or actually uses his size to clinch and fatigue Dre, then Dre would 0 chance of winning; but since AJ doesn't really do those things nor cut the ring off well I think a fighter with quick footwork and ring IQ can outbox him. I'll give Dre a 30% shot at winning.

Ward could beat him.

That kind of stuff only happens in games lol:

gets dropped and beaten by 175 kovalev now hes going to beat a 250lb+ HW champion. jesus christ, i want some of what your smoking bud.

I don't think Andre's lateral movement is as good as you make out, either. He always has been most effective when he can smother his opponents on the inside and shut their offence down. No chance of getting the better of Joshua on the outside lmao. On the inside he would be totally out of his depth strength wise compared to usual where he can surprise opponents with his physicality. What does Roy have to do with anything, even the great Roy couldn't beat Lennox Lewis for example.

AJ would probably KO him within 4-5. If he went over 8 rounds, he'd probably go the whole damn way.

He has zero chance of beating Joshua.

Absolutely. There is a difference in range and reach. It looks like Earl combined the two. Im with Dan and Redd on this. I think Andre is that skilled to pull it off. Its just the power at that level worries me, regardless of how much and how properly Dre bulks up, I think he's only gonna gain slightly more power than he already has. Is it enough it trouble Joshua? Possibly. The thought of this fight does intrigue me. But I'd like to see Wilder vs. Joshua 1st.

Ward for sure also has that headbutt down to a tee.

Big Ward fan. He has no chance. Not only is Joshua a good fighter at range, he throws short punches well. Ward is a small man with a reliable to decent chin, but he would need a spectacular one to come through this, and that is not even considering the punishment to torso and arms. I find it funny how anti-joshua everyone is after one ok performance. It's laughable - but happens over and over so not surprising anymore. How so many of you still can't see the sport in an objective manner is dumbfounding to me.

If moving up in weight has any benefit, it's increased durability. We saw Bellew eating flush power shots from Haye that put guys like Chisora out cold, Toney another guy even smaller than Ward never been stopped at HW, even Adamek had a ton of success moving up, Ward is much better than all these men. I think Ward is too small in the end but I do think he could cause AJ problems. Landing on a small target is EXTREMELY difficult, I've even seen Wilder sparring some no-name guy around 5'10, looked like a SMW at the biggest, and Wilder could NOT land. Wilder was getting thoroughly out-boxed, as a Wilder fan it was embarrassing, I was like WTF? But then I started to realize, punching downwards, finding that small target, is extremely difficult. Oh I agree I think Ward dances around AJ for as many rounds as it takes one of those punches to connect. But one would eventually land.