Since when does a title holder have to earn the right to fight another title holder?

these excuses are pathetic lol wow!!!!!!!!

:pat::pat: The same Loma that ducked a rematch with Salido. nice try, everyone knows Salido ducked Loma. unless of course you have something to support that statement. maybe a link to a video or article? because your imagination doesn't count.

When here is a paper champs who fights nothing but bums They need to earn it first like wilder, he is a disgrace and a fraud. Ducked klit and any top fighter and only take when the fight is made with someone else. There are too many title holders these days, only Joshua is the true champ and cash cow m You gotta remember mayweather and pacman never gave all title holders shots because here were too many paper champs All wilder needs to do is first prove himself by fighting whyte and then Joshua will take him out as he wants all the belts

TDo you fuckers never get tired of making excuses for why all those protected Haymon fighters like Wilder, Lara, Andrade, Charlo girls, etc, don't fight anybody but bums? Aren't you a little confused? It's team Joshua who wants to kick the can down the road, team Wilder wants the fight now. If it were the other way around, you'd be crucifying Wilder. You're anti American agenda is showing. On another note, hard core ggg ball gaggers like you should never ever bytche about other fighters fighting "bums".

Joshua needed ref "help" to put away a cruiserweight sized african goat herder who took the fight on 12 days notice. AJ dont want anything to do with Booooomb Squaaaaad!

Common sense (again this apparently leaves you out) tells you that team Wilder isn't going to spend the time or money on a fight team Joshua has made clear they don't want right now. Again, tell the truth, if Joshua wanted the fight right now and Wilder was bocking, you'd be crucifying Wilder on NSB. Do you fuckers never get tired of making excuses for why all those protected Haymon fighters like Wilder, Lara, Andrade, Charlo girls, etc, don't fight anybody but bums?

Gtfoh. All Wilder ever does is run his mouth and crush cans. if he wants to fight AJ so much why have Haymon and his puppet DiBella never lifted a finger to try and make the fight for him themselves? Common sense (again this apparently leaves you out) tells you that team Wilder isn't going to spend the time or money on a fight team Joshua has made clear they don't want right now. Again, tell the truth, if Joshua wanted the fight right now and Wilder was bocking, you'd be crucifying Wilder on NSB.

WTF?? arnt title holders supposed to fight each other?? what kind on new age bullsh1t is this?? And at Heavyweight at that..its not like they have move to another division or something..this is your home for the rest of your career..this is straight h0e sh1t Yeah I know tank pissed me off too ducking lomachenko

That's a stupid statement. I and many other people, including Oscar De La Hoya, believe that BJS would beat Canelo, which is why they wouldn't fight him when they had the chance. Charlo has done absolutly nothing in his career to justify rating him better than BJS at MW. The hype he's getting at this place for beating a lame B- level Heiland is unreal. I'll correct my post. No one without an agenda (this leaves you out) believes Saunders is a better fighter than Canelo, Jacobs, or Charlo

Tell the truth, if AJ wanted the fight now and Wilder was bocking, you'd crucify Wilder on NSB. Gtfoh. All Wilder ever does is run his mouth and crush cans. if he wants to fight AJ so much why have Haymon and his puppet DiBella never lifted a finger to try and make the fight for him themselves?

You have some valid points but the facts are that Joshua and Wilder are VIEWED as the two best heavyweights in boxing. You may not agree but the overwhelming majority believes it. As I posted, absolutely no one believes Saunders is a better fighter than Charlo, Canelo etc. That's a stupid statement. I and many other people, including Oscar De La Hoya, believe that BJS would beat Canelo, which is why they wouldn't fight him when they had the chance. Charlo has done absolutly nothing in his career to justify rating him better than BJS at MW. The hype he's getting at this place for beating a lame B- level Heiland is unreal.

Just to put this in perspective .. Hearn is saying he wants Wilder as AJ's second opponent next year, rather than his first. That's all folks. Tell the truth, if AJ wanted the fight now and Wilder was bocking, you'd crucify Wilder on NSB.

Its not a big difference at all OP is a well known racist. Ok if Wilder is one of the top heavyweights so is Parker, Ortiz, Whyte etc my point (which I keep going back to) is that Wilder has not done anything to show he is ahead of these other guys. Wilder has struggled with some pretty averagw opposition and the only fighter that both Wilder and AJ fought was taken care by AJ far easier. If you look at quality of opposition Wilder has done nothing to warrent any demands to be the next guy to fight AJ. As a boxing fan I genuinly dont see where all the hype for Wilder is coming from which is why I want him to show me something to make me actually believe he is a genuine threat to AJ You have some valid points but the facts are that Joshua and Wilder are VIEWED as the two best heavyweights in boxing. You may not agree but the overwhelming majority believes it. As I posted, absolutely no one believes Saunders is a better fighter than Charlo, Canelo etc.

Ive heard a few people talk about homesteading up there. I like it. Theres a town called goldfield thats like steppoing back into the wild west days. Thing that surprises some people is how much it snows in Northern Nevada considering the south is so hot. Strip clubs would probably do well up there. Its all about competition and there would be none for a while. You have all the miners. Not sure where the girls would come from though. Maybe Reno if youre close enough. Keep me updated. Reno has gone off the rails Lou...a lot of it is buying pressure from the baby boomers coming East from the Sacramento Valley, and Tahoe which has always been a nice area, in both Nevada and Kali. Reno has the nice mountains, the skiing and the roads are great...I get to drive a lot on the roads here back East and after such driving on 80 is heavenly. What im saying is its a very livable area for sure. Goldfield is indeed one of the bigger "ghost towns" in the area and these places are great, you just want to make sure you have real off road capability and supplies lol. Yes it snows a lot! and its a pain in the a ss! They call the clubs here "ranches." and the girls come and work a stretch, like most "ranches" these are like little estates, you come in from the middle of nowhere and into a bar, restaurant, rooms, the whole works. There is a laid back vibe, good ole truckers, a few guys like me who are probably taking their sons in to pop their cherry lol, I mean these girls are clean, medically supervised, they speak well, its quite something actually. So the girls are there, and I think a lot of them know other girls and so when they come in they work together. Im going to buy and develop something up here...miners have the disposable....these guys are pulling in 80k low end, some with no families...I was joshing you about setting up a ranch, but its actually something that I would consider. Have not found out about the licensing though. I like having people around in these areas, so of course I will keep you posted man! I don't mind buying in an area I am not familiar with provided I find the smart, ethical individuals and then? I usually shut my mouth and open my ears and learn from the local experts. The guy I bought my land from here in Winnemucca has been in this area, and bought his land in the early 60's! He told me, and I confirmed this because i look at these kind of things before I buy... that people buy tons of useless land there everyday! No roads, no power (used to be more of a problem), and no nothin' you bought it good luck getting to it :frown::lol1:

Id fight butterbean on lean for one of those! :rofl: lol we laugh but a lot of the toughman schtict got started in hon key tonks and other assorted "joints." I have to run up to Northern Nevada soon Lou... Nevada has to be one of the most intruiging states, along with New Jersey of all places... New Jersey has areas that are off the appalachian trail and so rurally backwards that people cannot go through there at night... And these areas are less than 100 miles to some of the most urban areas in the country...perhaps the world under certain statistical markers. Nevada is owned by and large by the guberment! what Lou? about 60-80% is government land...basically the middle swath between Reno Battle mountain and the outskirts of VEgas. People cannot afford these days to buy a simple ranch house with a few acres and pay less than in the neighbood of half a million....You can buy land in Nevada (with many caveats) where your backyard touches Burea of Land Management land and have an infinite back yard! BUt when buying land you better make sure you have roads! Now with solar technology though you don't need power like one used to...Tesla is right in Reno and they have the best solar technology so for me, its time to develop my 120 acres in Winnemucca. We are off of Jungo road, and that is the main road into town... So off I have to go and start another project. maybe I will open a strip club there! Hey!!! don't laugh you have bunny ranches all over Northern Nevada!:rofl: I am trying to work something out for the mines... They need housing bad and I think I can make some provisions. Ive heard a few people talk about homesteading up there. I like it. Theres a town called goldfield thats like steppoing back into the wild west days. Thing that surprises some people is how much it snows in Northern Nevada considering the south is so hot. Strip clubs would probably do well up there. Its all about competition and there would be none for a while. You have all the miners. Not sure where the girls would come from though. Maybe Reno if youre close enough. Keep me updated.

Why would a champion with 5 title defenses and who has held his belt almost 3 years allow himself to be dictated to by a guy with half that many defenses and who has been champ for half the time?

Wilder is doing what a guy wants to fight does....call out the mofo he wants to put hands on. Joshua and his team are posturing. They are vague and inconsistent. True but it is still posturing because he is trying to get the big fight because other than public pressure Joshua does not have to fight Wilder. Him telling the world he wants the fight is a form of posturing because he is trying to put that heat from the public on Joshua. I would say they both want the fight just Wilder wants it asap while Joshua (or Hearn) are content to let it play out over a longer course. Too much money on the line and both side need the other to achieve their goals in the quickest possible fashion.

Joshua is the one posturing... Wilder wants to fight. Wilder is posturing also at the moment because he has business he needs to settle before he can even really work on a Joshua fight. Because even if Joshua wins easily and straight up says he wants Wilder next and no one else nothing can happen now. For the record that would also be posturing from Joshua because he would know Wilder is not yet free to really discuss the fight. Selling the fight would be the kinder way to put posturing also.

This stuff is all posturing from both sides and getting the public talking about this fight. I see a lot of talk of this fight on here so it is going to be pretty big and both sides want it to be as big as possible. Wilder needs to talk smack because he is the one trying to come up. Joshua at the moment is a bit ahead but there is a lot of race to run in their careers but given the nature of boxing Joshua needs to take advantage of his current status in what will be a damn big fight. Both sides brings things to the table and as long as both keep winning things are set up nicely for them for 2018 sometime. The snowball is already rolling down the hill, as long as no one screws the pooch time is on their side. They can and will delay and mess around but at the end of the day this fight will occur because no one wants to leave a big fight on the table.

Are you that guy's wife or some sh*t???? YOU show bias toward the cubans....so don't CRY when Black posters show a bias. All you do is hate on US fighters.....all the while having your nasty ass in our Country.. No im not bias towards cubans. There is only 2-3 cuban fighters im a fan of. And i dont hate american fighters. terence crawford Errol Spence The charlos Keith thurman those are all american fighters that im a big fan of, im just not racially bias like you and dont nuthug a certain demographic. you arent even a fan you are just a political warrior lmao. how can anyone have a serious boxing debate with you when you are irrational and are always bias no matter what