I don't get this part of Bermane Stiverne being the mandatory challenger. I know he got paid step-aside money and a fight may have fell through in the past. But what is the logic behind a man being mandatory for 23 and 3/4 months without fighting?
His last fight in 2015 he got put down by Derric Rossy, a journeyman, before labouring to a close decision win.
Fres Oquendo laughs at 2 year layoffs going into a title shot.
When is Fres getting his shot btw? Believe the Briggs vacant title fight got killed in May or June. Why haven't they put Fres in another title fight yet???
Fres Oquendo, undisputed champion of the courtroom. He last won a 12 round fight in February 2010!
Is Vitali Klitschko champion emeritus still? What was the story with that, is a redundant after the come back? What is Tony Bellew at crusier?
WBC is messy. Which is a shame because aesthetically that is the belt that has the prestige. Albeit, not any more.
I don't get this part of Bermane Stiverne being the mandatory challenger. I know he got paid step-aside money and a fight may have fell through in the past. But what is the logic behind a man being mandatory for 23 and 3/4 months without fighting?
His last fight in 2015 he got put down by Derric Rossy, a journeyman, before labouring to a close decision win.
Looks like his punch resistence is going down. HW's is like its own sport man. Which is why I don't watch it much.
Money. Money is root to everything. Keep that in mind in life, when you know how to seperate that and watch out for people wanting money at all costs.
WBC is a business and they would rather keep Stiverne ranked probably plus due to he had valid reasons of being in active with WBC. WBC would keep him active as long as team stiverne is paying WBC for ranks and now he is still a big enough name to get some fans interested in this matchup. All boils down to money.
I don't get this part of Bermane Stiverne being the mandatory challenger. I know he got paid step-aside money and a fight may have fell through in the past. But what is the logic behind a man being mandatory for 23 and 3/4 months without fighting?
His last fight in 2015 he got put down by Derric Rossy, a journeyman, before labouring to a close decision win.
Stiverne is promoted by Don King. That his how he became mandatory. Only in America.
Well surely there's a time limit for enforcing mandatories. What's the story behind the WBC enforcing Wilder's mandatory on him in the last 24 months?
Wilder has never faced a mandatory because Povetkin refused to take the fight in 2015, and then in 2016 he failed a test and the WBC withdrew its sanction (the other poster claiming the WBC was willing to go forward with the fight is incorrect).
Povetkin was then ordered to face Stiverne for the interim title when Wilder was injured, but Povetkin failed another test.
Rather than have Stiverne face the next leading contender for an interim title, he was simply ordered to face Wilder since Wilder had recovered from his injury.
Didnt Stirverne fail the test too along with povetkin?
He test for DMAA well over a month out from the fight, apparently they let it go on because he actually took the supplement that contained it in front of the sample collector. I guess the presiding opinion was that it would have no effect on his performance so far out form the fight so they just fined him.
Well surely there's a time limit for enforcing mandatories. What's the story behind the WBC enforcing Wilder's mandatory on him in the last 24 months?
Wilder was set to fight Povetkin in 2016 who was his mando until the PED issue came up.
Stiverne was scheduled to fight Povetkin for the interim title later in 2016 but Povetkin popped again for PEDS so iirc Povetkin lost his mando status and Stiverne got it that way.
Didnt Stirverne fail the test too along with povetkin?
That is exactly right.
It is also apparent that the WBC were okay with Wilder fighting PEDvetkin but Wilder and his team skipped their flight, making the fight impossible.
The explanation, however thin, is that Povetkin-Stiverne was supposed to be for the mandatory spot. Povetkin failed another test, fight was cancelled, and Stiverne got a free position as the mandatory.
Wilder has had no interest in that fight, so Stiverne's been sitting inactive waiting for his shot. It is what it is.
I'm not defending the WBC, but it's not like they installed him out of nowhere after sitting idle for two years.
Didnt Stirverne fail the test too along with povetkin?
The explanation, however thin, is that Povetkin-Stiverne was supposed to be for the mandatory spot. Povetkin failed another test, fight was cancelled, and Stiverne got a free position as the mandatory.
Wilder has had no interest in that fight, so Stiverne's been sitting inactive waiting for his shot. It is what it is.
I'm not defending the WBC, but it's not like they installed him out of nowhere after sitting idle for two years.
I thought Alexander PEDvetkin was mandatory in 2016? So how come after that Bermane Stiverne was given mandatory status again when he hadn't fought in 12 months?
Has Deontay Wilder ever made a mandatory defense of his title?
Happens all the time because once you have your spot, you don't want to risk it. So you just have to wait. Especially if you're WBC/WBA/WBO mandatory and not IBF. IBF actually enforces their mandatories on a reasonable schedule. The other three, forget about it. Can drag on forever.
Well surely there's a time limit for enforcing mandatories. What's the story behind the WBC enforcing Wilder's mandatory on him in the last 24 months?
I don't get this part of Bermane Stiverne being the mandatory challenger. I know he got paid step-aside money and a fight may have fell through in the past. But what is the logic behind a man being mandatory for 23 and 3/4 months without fighting?
Happens all the time because once you have your spot, you don't want to risk it. So you just have to wait. Especially if you're WBC/WBA/WBO mandatory and not IBF. IBF actually enforces their mandatories on a reasonable schedule. The other three, forget about it. Can drag on forever.
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