So Crawford unified all the trinkets at 140 and now people have him P4P #1 or close, but facts are his run of opponents weren't that great. Diaz and Postol were good but not great opponents. The rest are whatever. Molina, Lundy, and even Udango (who somehow captured two belts) are just ok wins. His reign at the division is similar to GGG before he fought Jacobs and Canelo. Just a bunch of decent wins in spectacular fashion, but nobody elite.
Garcia dominated highly regarded Lucas Matthysse and Amir Khan, two fights where he was the major underdog in. That alone is more than Crawford has done his entire career. Bradley beat undefeated guys like Peterson and Alexander with ease and also has scalps like Miguel Vasquez, Witter, and Holt.
So where's all the Crawford hype coming from? Does unifying all the trinkets at a division, against ok competition no less, mean that much today?
I think a lot of you guys are expecting Crawford to be a superstar. The problem is he hasn't been marketed and he is not marketable.
Anyone is marketable as long as you market them. So why doesn't bob REALLY market him??
And so did GGG, a resume full of decent names.
Absolutely not. GGG faced some decent names, but guys that once he hit them, he killed them. He had acid on his gloves.
Terrence fought some awkward guys, fast guys, he had to figure them out. He faced quite the variation. I mean GGG resume is ight, but we always knew once he landed, it was over. Now he is aged, and will have to rely on boxing abilities
Absolutely not comparable to GGG. Crawford faced allot of awkward styles and fast handed guys, and guys who were the absolute best in his division like Burns in his home country. Ran through them all. Showed allot of skills, and has some decent names on his resume.
And so did GGG, a resume full of decent names.
He is going to 147 so there is not going to be anymore Koing. Plus Thurman has the personality and he is bi-racial. That piece of white privilege will open doors for Thurman.
We are going to have to see. He accuracy in accumulation is how he gets his knockouts. He's not a one punch artist....I think thurmans losing his appeal, his fights are getting pretty boring and he hasn't got a KO in a while. Plus Crawford has the state of Nebraska behind him. I don't know if it gets any whiter than that. Haha
I think Crawford has been more impressive than either of them at 140. He defends his 140 pound titles more often than they did and wins his fights in a more dominate fashion overall. He is top 5 pfp on almost all lists and that's something they never were. He unified 140 completely and that is something they never did. In my opinion Crawford is a better 140 pound boxer than either of them on their best day. I would rate Bradley as a better fighter than Garcia. He never had a close fight at 140 and beat the hell out of Peterson. Garcia had a very close win over Peterson.
I was joking. How It's impressive that he sells out like that, but then again with no professional teams you guys love what you can get. But if he keeps koing guys like he is he will pass Thurman in no time
He is going to 147 so there is not going to be anymore Koing. Plus Thurman has the personality and he is bi-racial. That piece of white privilege will open doors for Thurman.
yeah they did, ive made this point before, clearin out 140 means **** all. its a garbage division, a feeder dvision for 147. laughable how people rate crawford so highly for beating the muppets in that weight class. he unified the divison against indongo for christ sake whos best win was shot to **** ricky burns. hardly a bunch of killers down there. hes got a hell of a lot to prove still.
lol true, I was cringing so hard when everybody was acting like it was a milestone to unify 140 with a bunch of mediocre guys. Mikey Garcia doesn't have a belt there and that win alone would mean more than any of the B levels guys combined that Crawford mopped the floor with at 40.
Its not his fault that light welter was so weak, ironically its actually starting to pick up now hes moving up with the very talented prospects like josh taylor, prograis, lipinets, ramirez coming through.
p4p no.1 is definitely kinda ridiculous though, apart from a bunch of midgets hes only beaten 1 legit guy in Postol.
If he beats thurman or spence and wins a belt at 147 then the p4p.no1 conversation can start imo.
Exactly, one can say he's a weight bully. If he dominated 147, and actually fights Thurman, Spence, Porter, ect. I'll crown him but until then I'm not ready to appoint this dude the next biggest thing.
For what it's worth Garcia was also very, very lucky to get the nod vs. Herrera and if your going to talk up Mattheyse then you've got to give Crawford respect for the Postol win. Postol dominated Lucas and Garcia was avoiding him like the plague and Bud pitched a near shut out vs. Postol.
He also needed a second fight to really seperate himself from an old washed up Morales and didn't exactly dominate Judah.
Crawford lost maybe 2 rounds at 140 and won all four belts. He looked the part also.
Comparing his run to Bradley's. Haven't really thought about it but I do see Bud as a more impressive fighter than Tim ever was and the Alexander win to me whilst good loses some points because of constant and deliberate headbutts.
In short; Bud came to 140 as a pit stop and he cleaned out the division by winning 4 titles and the Ring title and took part in two unification matches. He lost 2-3 rounds at most and did this all in 2 years. That's impressive for a pit stop.
solid post
So Crawford unified all the trinkets at 140 and now people have him P4P #1 or close, but facts are his run of opponents weren't that great. Diaz and Postol were good but not great opponents. The rest are whatever. Molina, Lundy, and even Udango (who somehow captured two belts) are just ok wins. His reign at the division is similar to GGG before he fought Jacobs and Canelo. Just a bunch of decent wins in spectacular fashion, but nobody elite.
Garcia dominated highly regarded Lucas Matthysse and Amir Khan, two fights where he was the major underdog in. That alone is more than Crawford has done his entire career. Bradley beat undefeated guys like Peterson and Alexander with ease and also has scalps like Miguel Vasquez, Witter, and Holt.
So where's all the Crawford hype coming from? Does unifying all the trinkets at a division, against ok competition no less, mean that much today?
Absolutely not comparable to GGG. Crawford faced allot of awkward styles and fast handed guys, and guys who were the absolute best in his division like Burns in his home country. Ran through them all. Showed allot of skills, and has some decent names on his resume.
So Crawford unified all the trinkets at 140 and now people have him P4P #1 or close, but facts are his run of opponents weren't that great. Diaz and Postol were good but not great opponents. The rest are whatever. Molina, Lundy, and even Udango (who somehow captured two belts) are just ok wins. His reign at the division is similar to GGG before he fought Jacobs and Canelo. Just a bunch of decent wins in spectacular fashion, but nobody elite.
Garcia dominated highly regarded Lucas Matthysse and Amir Khan, two fights where he was the major underdog in. That alone is more than Crawford has done his entire career. Bradley beat undefeated guys like Peterson and Alexander with ease and also has scalps like Miguel Vasquez, Witter, and Holt.
So where's all the Crawford hype coming from? Does unifying all the trinkets at a division, against ok competition no less, mean that much today?
For what it's worth Garcia was also very, very lucky to get the nod vs. Herrera and if your going to talk up Mattheyse then you've got to give Crawford respect for the Postol win. Postol dominated Lucas and Garcia was avoiding him like the plague and Bud pitched a near shut out vs. Postol.
He also needed a second fight to really seperate himself from an old washed up Morales and didn't exactly dominate Judah.
Crawford lost maybe 2 rounds at 140 and won all four belts. He looked the part also.
Comparing his run to Bradley's. Haven't really thought about it but I do see Bud as a more impressive fighter than Tim ever was and the Alexander win to me whilst good loses some points because of constant and deliberate headbutts.
In short; Bud came to 140 as a pit stop and he cleaned out the division by winning 4 titles and the Ring title and took part in two unification matches. He lost 2-3 rounds at most and did this all in 2 years. That's impressive for a pit stop.
I live in Omaha and I actually went to Gamboa fight so I know he is marketed well here but not Nationally. There are more people who know who Deontay Wilder is and who Keith Thurman is than people who know who Crawford is
I was joking. How It's impressive that he sells out like that, but then again with no professional teams you guys love what you can get. But if he keeps koing guys like he is he will pass Thurman in no time
Not marketable?!?! Have you seen how he sells out fights in Omaha!!!
I live in Omaha and I actually went to Gamboa fight so I know he is marketed well here but not Nationally. There are more people who know who Deontay Wilder is and who Keith Thurman is than people who know who Crawford is
exactly..so this thread is pointless as he is only focusing on 140..i guess we are really agreeing with each other??
Now you got me larry
It’s a stupid thread