In what fight was Pac in the most top form or what we call peak, that could have beaten a prime Mayweather?
I think it was the Pac that fought Hatton. What do you think?
I made a thread on the death squads. I'm not rehashing everything here, so you'll just have to read it yourself.
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=756077
Dude, you're seriously delusional. What are you Duterte's son?
I didn't even vote for Duterte.
Your ignorance is funny since you have no clue what you're talking about lol you can know better only if you live here. Since you're one of the majority that believes everything they see or read on the internet, I should understand.
people still pretend floyd won that fight? he was outclassed. couldntl and anything clean or flush. lil taps and grazes. pathetic. pac outboxed him easily. he knew he would get the decision so he fought not to get knocked out.
I agree Floyd lost that fight.. A draw maybe.
Crazy thing is that the night Pac beat Floyd it wasn't even close to his best. He only had one arm! Can you all imagine what would have happened if Manny had 2 arms against Floyd? Floyd would still be drinking through a straw.
Floyd could answer this better than anyone. When he dodged PAC most intensely
Yeah it was magic crystal ball stuff how he knew Manny would refuse a blood test that he later enforced on guys like Rios, even after Floyd said ok to a ridicules 10 million weight clause.
It amazes me just how gullible you are.
Pac vs Morales 2 and 3 at 130
Pac vs De la Hoya at 147
Pac vs Hatton at 140
This is even more incredible when you factor in that Pac jumped up to 147 and then dropped down to 140 so it was his first fights at both weights. And what did he do? He gave 2 future HOFers a career worst beating and Morales is a future HOFer who kept fighting after Pac but he was done after the Pac fight. Danny Garcia gets no credit for beating a washed up Morales in my book
He was on A side meth for those fights though
See, you believe the president kills all these drug addicts... you don't know know sht for real hahaha. Stick to reading internet stuff.
I made a thread on the death squads. I'm not rehashing everything here, so you'll just have to read it yourself.
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=756077
Dude, you're seriously delusional. What are you Duterte's son?
Stop it. I know its embarassing people in your country eat dog. Next your going to tell me your president isn't Hitler 2.0 killing drug addicts like they're Jews.
The whole family ate it. Learn to read! Freddy Roach is saying Manny told him his Dad ate his dog lmao. I linked you the article but you won't read it.
http://animalpeopleforum.org/2016/10/17/the-philippine-dog-meat-trade/
You're funny lmao. How can I be embarrass about those people when I know for a fact that only mentally ill a$$holes do that. Filipinos in general don't eat dogs and that's a fact.
And now, you're claiming again something that is so out of context hahaha. Their whole family eat it? Where? All I can see are articles about his father. You're inventing stuff out of nowhere lmao.
See, you believe the president kills all these drug addicts... you don't know know sht for real hahaha. Stick to reading internet stuff.
You've got a point, it's sorta like Floyd's win over Corralles. People think of it as a great win for Floyd but they don't realize Chico was sick for the week before the fight and was totally drained making 130.
The problem is there is always something affecting a fighter's performance if you look hard enough. You can't blame a guy cause his opponent has issues, cause that's a slippery slope. There's a lot going on behind the scene that never comes to light.
There is not always something effecting a fighters performance in terms of it being major, but with Manny most of his wins in this thread are the wins with the most handicap going on with the opponents, mostly regarding weight and they were very close to career breaking loses.
I know Manny is a great fighter Im just saying his run at 140-154 is full of great match making and timing and a lot of controversial things going on concerning weight, starting at Cotto and ending with Algieri and Rios, fanboys are always crying if you have anything they regard as negative to say but the fact is if you take every opponent and look closely at the conditions of the match it shows it everywhere.
Pac was great for a long time. I first saw him the fight before Barrera. He was pretty much just right, right, left. But he was damn good at it. I told my brother about him right away. When Barrera did his ring walk against Pac, my brother noticed his longer hair style and said it means he's gonna lose. Barrera was a real b*tch in that fight. Head butted pac. Cried foul himself. Ref "He hit you, and you went down!" But I'd say his TKO win of Cotto was his best. Hard to take out Cotto. Also I remember my Dad saying seconds before the Hatton fight, "Don't be surprised if he cuts him to ribbons boys". I think that was as accurate, eloquent prediction I've heard. I think Hatton really did a good job of selling that fight. I hoped for more. But it was ribbon cutting day.
Tf is esdaw.eu? lmao you're too desperate to look for article about filipinos eating dogs. You're just taking random non-reliable sites out of nowhere lol
Look, you were claiming Manny eat dogs. But all you can show are articles that HIS FATHER eat his dog. Now can you make some sense out of you?
You're trying to insist that Filipinos eat dogs, like you know more about the Philippines than me LMAO i'm a Filipino and I know what i'm talking about unlike you who just base things and stuff from the internet. Eating dogs is NOT acceptable here, and when you're caught in the act you're going to jail. You're welcome again, for educating you.
Not to mention, there was a filipino movie last year with a scene of cooking a dog (it's fake), and the staff of that movie all got banned on making movies for life. You know why? Because Filipinos don't eat dogs.
Stop acting like you know sht
Stop it. I know its embarassing people in your country eat dog. Next your going to tell me your president isn't Hitler 2.0 killing drug addicts like they're Jews.
The whole family ate it. Learn to read! Freddy Roach is saying Manny told him his Dad ate his dog lmao. I linked you the article but you won't read it.
http://animalpeopleforum.org/2016/10/17/the-philippine-dog-meat-trade/
Filipinos eat dog your dumb shít motherfùcker. They have a MASSIVE dog meat trade.
"Half a million dogs are slaughtered annually in the Philippines. The Philippine dog meat trade is primarily centered in the city of Baguio, in the northern Luzon Island province of Benguet.
"Historically, it was associated with celebratory events and rituals of mourning and only affected a small number of dogs. However, over the past 25 years, the dog meat trade has rapidly increased for commercial rather than cultural reasons."
**DISCLAIMER: THE SOURCE LINK HORRIBLE**
SOURCE: http://www.esdaw.eu/dog--cat-meat---philippines.html
They actually are a very credible source. Since when has TMZ NOT been a credible source.
Here are more credible sources.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/boxing/4940399/Manny-Pacquiao-became-street-urchin-after-his-father-ate-his-dog.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/05/01/manny-pacquiaos-dad-ate-his-dog-and-boxing-has-never-been-the-same/?utm_term=.c7cc07bc5876
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxing/manny-pacquiao-ran-away-home-5594952
"Manny ran away from home after his father ate his dog," trainer Freddie Roach once revealed.
Tf is esdaw.eu? lmao you're too desperate to look for article about filipinos eating dogs. You're just taking random non-reliable sites out of nowhere lol
Look, you were claiming Manny eat dogs. But all you can show are articles that HIS FATHER eat his dog. Now can you make some sense out of you?
You're trying to insist that Filipinos eat dogs, like you know more about the Philippines than me LMAO i'm a Filipino and I know what i'm talking about unlike you who just base things and stuff from the internet. Eating dogs is NOT acceptable here, and when you're caught in the act you're going to jail. You're welcome again, for educating you.
Not to mention, there was a filipino movie last year with a scene of cooking a dog (it's fake), and the staff of that movie all got banned on making movies for life. You know why? Because Filipinos don't eat dogs.
Stop acting like you know sht
Thats not in concrete and not even the issue, the point is he stopped a totally wrecked Hatton and you praise it as a great win, I guarantee he doesn't stop him the same way when he fought KT or Floyd as an undefeated guy, there is a huge difference in the two versions of Hatton.
Same as Manny stopping a version of Oscar that couldn't be anymore wrecked if he tried to be, yet guys jump up and down with what a great win, I would bet good real money on Oscar beating him at 154. it makes that much difference to the outcome of fights yet fanboys don't see it they only see the bash in front of their eyes they never see the reasons the bash occurred.
Name his best wins where there is no weight clause of any kind in the fight and no guys coming of 1-2 fights from huge career loses and all of a sudden his biggest name fights shrivel back to 135 and under.
You've got a point, it's sorta like Floyd's win over Corralles. People think of it as a great win for Floyd but they don't realize Chico was sick for the week before the fight and was totally drained making 130.
The problem is there is always something affecting a fighter's performance if you look hard enough. You can't blame a guy cause his opponent has issues, cause that's a slippery slope. There's a lot going on behind the scene that never comes to light.
Hatton would always get brutally ko by pacquiao, he's the same size, has a weak chin and next to no defense. Stop.
Read whats said, Hatton was wrecked when they fought, if buts would have blah blah is not the question, the point was the idiot made the comment how great the win was, all I said was Hatton was wrecked at that time, end of story don't add nothing .
A.M. Damaged the sh** out of him along with many other wars. It was that fight that knocked him off his peak. knowing the types of losses he was to endure he probably should have shelled up and took an L.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGqHP-8eQro
How about the Mosley fight?
No.. that was after margarito fight wasn't it..
I think margarito fight took a lot out of manny physically, and really never the same
Youre another retard that don't know sht, best he ever looked lol one fanboy kissing ass of another that's all you fools can do lol.
Hatton would always get brutally ko by pacquiao, he's the same size, has a weak chin and next to no defense. Stop.